these are the anthrax attacks that came like a month after 9/11. the anthrax attacks that mccain said "may be from iraq". the anthrax that went to select democrats who opposed going to war in the middle east.
oh and guess what, now that they have traced it back to who made it, in our own defense department, it turns out that guy "committed suicide" a while ago. what a COINCIDENCE.
I can't wait until it all comes out, it's going to happen soon now. I can't wait for all the people who said the government being involved in 9/11 was impossible. I can't wait for those people to get slapped the fuck back into reality.
I can't help but keep making posts about this stuff. It blows my mind how people can just shut theirselves off to new possibility. WAAAAAAAKE UUUUP
and yet there are an astounding number of intelligent people who feel as confident about their differing viewpoint as you do. hell, a lot of them post here too with caps, italics and bolded letters, everyone thinking they're the only enlightened ones in the whole fucking world.
why is everyone such a huge douchebag about this stuff
On August 04 2008 06:29 Chill wrote: The government can't keep the president getting his cock sucked a secret; you think they could keep genocide a secret?
On August 04 2008 06:33 intrigue wrote: and yet there are an astounding number of intelligent people who feel as confident about their differing viewpoint as you do. hell, a lot of them post here too with caps, italics and bolded letters, everyone thinking they're the only enlightened ones in the whole fucking world.
why is everyone such a huge douchebag about this stuff
because I don't deny possibility.
I don't tell people that there is no way im wrong.
I don't choose purposeful ignorance. That causes way more suffering in the world than being a douchebag to people who refuse to even look at things from a different viewpoint.
On August 04 2008 06:33 intrigue wrote: and yet there are an astounding number of intelligent people who feel as confident about their differing viewpoint as you do. hell, a lot of them post here too with caps, italics and bolded letters, everyone thinking they're the only enlightened ones in the whole fucking world.
why is everyone such a huge douchebag about this stuff
because I don't deny possibility.
I don't tell people that there is no way im wrong.
I don't choose purposeful ignorance. That causes way more suffering in the world than being a douchebag to people who refuse to even look at things from a different viewpoint.
Kettle, pot.
I don't see how trying to force them to see your light, however right it might be, is better than people refusing to see reality. You might not have choose ignorance, but in shoving that decision of yours onto others you are no different from them. If you presented the case with a less abrasive manner perhaps you would've convinced some people, in trying to shove it into others' faces you simply ruined your own point.
dont bother try reaching people on TL. we're too starcrafted up.
i'm kind of tired of the "the government can't cover up something big" argument. Hitler attacked his country's own parliament buliding, there is such a thing as top secret classification for our "national security". the federal reserve discloses nothing about their meetings, how it comes to its decisions, etc etc. is the 50 year secrecy thing just all bullshit? are they keeping secrets about bush having teaparties with his action figures? if you were a powerful criminal organization on the national and international level, what would be a prime choice to keep secrets?
we have all this tlak about domestic spying, and people telling off those against it, "why, what have you got to hide?" as if if they don't agree to it, they're guilty already. i don't agree with that line of thinking because the right to privacy belongs to the people, not to government. but when we apply that same logic to government, somehow it's taboo. why is this?
if you're going to tell a lie, tell a big one. - hitler.
oh btw, the reason people come off as "douches about this stuff" is because it's quite important, and even more dangerously so, seeing that there is a darn good chance backed with traced evidence that the govenrment is guilty.
ergo, the way to ensure freedom is to keep the government to it's absolute minimum like the founding fathers recommended. if it's small, it becomes quite hard to pull off shit like this or even smaller shit.
for those that haven't already heard, jfk's speech abuot secrecy and government coverups
more like a cauldron/pot imo, kettle is too small i mean ,seriously, i would've been in 100% total agreement with the OP ; if he had not come off with the "fuck you, close minded people" as an obvious attention grabber/ "although" it properly showcases how BM the general post was( if thats even a plus or anything )
Anyways, obviously, Travis is going to be on everyone that posts any negative aspects about the OP so with reclined hesitation and trepidation i hit ye' dreadful "Post" button
JFK's administration created some of the poorest kept secrets, though, it is hard to pay any attention to that. Situation with Hitler was completely different from the modern situation, far from any intelligent comparison. Were we able to mobilize the National Guard to use in that fashion we can get away with a lot more lying than just 9/11, I am sure, but we aren't.
Hm... I get annoyed when people criticize you for not agreeing with them. If I don't believe that the government was behind 9/11, then I should wake up? Maybe I haven't been exposed to the same compelling evidence as someone else. The same goes the other way. If someone says to me it's obvious there was no conspiracy, I don't feel obligated to immediately agree or take a stance 100%.
I'm pretty sure the OP was targeting people who are much more polarized than me though.
Hi Travis. I really like most of your posts but this disappoints . Normally I'd go totally flame warrior on you but like I said you have my respect.
In my mind there are two ways 9/11 could have been "rigged".
1.) US soldiers hijacked the planes themselves.
To accomplish this you'd have to secure some 15 or so American patriots who're willing to kill themselves in order to kill five-thousand Americans. We've seen that Al qaeda maniacs are willing to do this, but Americans? Killing their own? I'll be generous and say these were the only 15 men involved besides whoever it was up high in the administration that came up with this idea. Where do you find these men? How do you guarantee the loyalty of these men? I mean to blackmail these men you'd need more men to do the blackmailing, and how do you guarantee their loyalty? And so on.
2.) There were no planes, and the buildings were rigged with explosives.
Ok seriously, logistics aside (and by god this would take a lot of logistics), how do you rig a building with explosives that is occupied nearly 24 hours a day?! And how do you explain the thousands of people who saw the planes on 9/11? And what happened to the planes? And the family members?
The reichstag was a fire. Anyone can set fire to a building. It's another thing to wire two heavily occupied buildings with enough explosives to bring them down.
As for the Anthrax case: As far as we know, it was the work of one rogue dude who had some serious ego issues, according to his brother. I don't see any evidence it was concocted by the administration.
EPT
