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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 23:39:16
July 27 2008 23:38 GMT
#1
Hey everyone,

So this summer I've taken a temp job with a crowd control service before I go off to college in the fall. Yesterday was my first day at work running a gate for seats for the Torchlight Parade out here in Seattle. Seeing as how I would have had to drive downtown during the biggest event in the year I opted to take the bus to work, setting me up for some of the scariest shit I've seen in awhile.
The job itself was fine. About halfway through the shift a cop posted up right next to me so I didn't really have to do anything. Where it got heavy was heading back to the bus stop afterwords. There were a lot of people kinda just flexing their muscles at each other across the street, which I was used to The high school that I just graduated from was kinda ghetto so I had seen people messing with each other in the hallway. Eventually out in from of the symphony hall a fight broke out. Some dude kinda backed up across four lanes of traffic and about four cops jumped on the two of them. Of course what they thought was going to be an isolated incident quickly exploded. With all of the cops across the street people started realizing that they could really do whatever they wanted. Thus the riot.
What started happening was that three or four people who knew each other would get together and just start beating kids down in the street. No Fucking Joke. I saw this little girl no more then five with her cousin watching this, not yet really understanding that people could act this way. Anyways I decided at this point it would be a pretty good idea to get off that block before they started rounding people up or something so I headed down to second avenue (most of the busses run on 3rd where I just was because they are retrofitting the bus tunnel for light rail.) I haven't really been bus dependent in a few years and figured that the bus I wanted must either run on second or first. And that's where I saw something that I haven't been able to get out of my head.
As I was walking down this hill there was this like fifteen year old kid running after some girl that he seemed to know. When he catches up with her he just starts hitting her in the face. My heart starts pounding here and I try to assess the situation. Here's this kid, maybe five eight that I could maybe take in a fight if I tried to stop him. Except he's got maybe ten of his friends around. And there's cops everywhere. If I get stopped I'm eighteen and they book me. And so I walk away. Pretty soon I'm running. I run maybe ten blocks and find myself down in Pioneer Square where I thought I remembered dropping a friend once to get on a bus back to West Seattle. But the bus stop isn't there. It's 10:30 and the bus I needed has come and gone. I have no money with except for bus fair, I pulled it all out because I didn't want to get mugged for eighty bucks. No cab money. All of the busses that go remotely near where I'm headed are full.
In the end my mom was able to pick me up and I got out all right. As I sat on the block waiting for her in Pioneer Square, a commercial district where there's more bars than street lights I sat in shock, sort of jokingly telling myself that that I had gone soft because I couldn't catch a bus anymore. And then I remembered that girl, how I had run away.
Last night I saw a city explode. I am ashamed of the way i saw people acting. What's worse is that I know how those kids feel, how they feel unable to cope with things they can't control, how they are angry and subjugate one another for that little bit of solstice. But I still hate them for it. I am ashamed to know some of those people an I am ashamed that we must be policed to be able to function like normal people. And I am ashamed of myself. I am ashamed that there was a girl who needed help and I was so afraid that I ran. I'm a fucking adult and I ran and called my mother. I was too afraid of having a record that I let that girl get hurt. I don't think that I'll get over this soon. Last night I saw a city explode, and I don't think anything well ever change.

-Clark

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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
July 27 2008 23:39 GMT
#2
PS admins, indenting is broken.
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
July 27 2008 23:51 GMT
#3
Good thing you got out safe.
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
July 27 2008 23:57 GMT
#4
Such is the nature of human beings.. I'm glad you decided not to get mixed up in it. That was the right choice.
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
July 28 2008 00:05 GMT
#5
On July 28 2008 08:57 DanceCommander wrote:
That was the right choice.


Yeah, running away from problems, right choice, okay. No wonder society is going down. There never was any, everybody for himself only...
De omnibus dubitandum.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 00:12:08
July 28 2008 00:10 GMT
#6
In admitting your wrongs and being honest with yourself, you have no reason to feel guilt or shame. But it is healthy to think about it.
imthemaster
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
July 28 2008 00:10 GMT
#7
Wow must've been scary as hell. What you said about the girl makes me think though, are the choices that seem right really the right thing to do?
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
July 28 2008 00:19 GMT
#8
Human beings are damaged goods. We've never really learned how to cooperate and treat each other with respect.
콩까지마
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 28 2008 00:24 GMT
#9
Seems to me that whoever was in charge of crowd control failed. Insufficient personnel, possibly undertrained personnel, probably underequipped personnel, definitely failure to anticipate a riot. Hindsight is awesome.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
July 28 2008 00:28 GMT
#10
Incredible story - really chilling. Thanks for sharing.5*s

I think you made the right choice too. It sounds like all that would have happened is that the mob would have just beaten you up and then gone back to the girl (with probably additional beating for attracting attention).

It is also good that you feel so ashamed though. If you felt even mildly comfortable walking away then you are not much better than the boy who was beating.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 28 2008 00:44 GMT
#11
whoa... I can't support running away, but at the same time I can't tell you you made the wrong choice, It's probably what most people would have done.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 28 2008 00:54 GMT
#12
What most people would have done doesn't have a bearing on ethical judgments, unless you're a positivistic ethicist. Who basically says "if 51% of people agree with me then I'm right." (All right, no one's a complete positivist, but I think the position is ridiculous.)

Crowd control is supposed to take care of shit like that. So are the police. And people aren't supposed to act like that. Multiple failures in this case. I don't think it's necessarily your error that you were physically unable to stop the violence, although you were physically able to try - but trying and failing is no better.

As an analogy, give a soldier a pistol and tell him to defend a bridge under assault by armored vehicles. Is it his fault if he runs? Surely his decision. But you wouldn't think any better of him if he died trying. Well, I wouldn't.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 28 2008 01:21 GMT
#13
use [ indent]
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 28 2008 01:28 GMT
#14
On July 28 2008 09:54 BottleAbuser wrote:
What most people would have done doesn't have a bearing on ethical judgments, unless you're a positivistic ethicist. Who basically says "if 51% of people agree with me then I'm right." (All right, no one's a complete positivist, but I think the position is ridiculous.)

Crowd control is supposed to take care of shit like that. So are the police. And people aren't supposed to act like that. Multiple failures in this case. I don't think it's necessarily your error that you were physically unable to stop the violence, although you were physically able to try - but trying and failing is no better.

As an analogy, give a soldier a pistol and tell him to defend a bridge under assault by armored vehicles. Is it his fault if he runs? Surely his decision. But you wouldn't think any better of him if he died trying. Well, I wouldn't.

I know it doesn't. All I'm saying is I don't have the moral high ground to say, "You should have done such and such"
I don't know. I would say he made the right choice personally.
Liquid | SKT
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 28 2008 01:29 GMT
#15
Semantics again, but I'm a douche like that. I would say he didn't make a wrong choice.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
zachmorris
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States106 Posts
July 28 2008 02:52 GMT
#16
It shows you have a conscience at least. You felt remorse for what happened and it was probably the safest idea to get out of there. Its impossible to save everyone in this world. c'est la vie
I hate zach morris
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