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I am not a supporter of George W. Bush, a lot of his ideas are stupid. He is not a very good president. It seems like a lot of people think Bush caused all the fucking problems we have today. I hate the fuckers who say bush is the reason our economy sucks and that it is his fault that we are fighting in Iraq. The economy sucks because the government has been overspending their money on stupid shit for 40 years. Bush has been president for only almost 8 years, wierd huh? The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS.
Totally bush's fault, I mean what an idiot for attacking an terrorists who were killing innocent citizens, causing damage to our cities and causing mass hysteria. Who doesn't want to live in a state of fear? Why didn't bush know we liked suicide bombers blowing up our friends and family? Europe also loves their trains being blown up by crazy extremists. It is a darn shame bush is ruining all the fun.
Mexicans are hard working people. I can confidently say a higher percentage of mexicans are hard working than anybody else in the united states. I have a good idea, LETS GET RID OF THEM. Send them back to mexico, build a fucking billion dollar fence so they can walk around it to get back. America doesn't need hard working people, we need lazy fat ass people who do not work at all!
 
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C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east.
How much time do you think he spent on it? And how do you know it was time that he was supposed to spend addressing the issue of terrorists in the middle east?
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they work hard and for less moneyz, thats why they are being kicked out
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On June 20 2008 07:12 NonY[rC] wrote:Show nested quote +C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. How much time do you think he spent on it? And how do you know it was time that he was supposed to spend addressing the issue of terrorists in the middle east?
The too busy getting his cock sucked thing was a joke. The point is, he did not take any action.
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I agree with you. However, Clinton did try to do something about it. We didn't have the information we had then. It's not like president can just say "Oh, Iraq eh? Let's go now!" ... Clinton has explicitly talked about what he tried to do and what he couldn't, and why.
also.... Iraq didn't fly any plans into any buildings... did they?
Edit: And on the Mexican stuff...
First of all, A country has to respect it's own borders, and It's own people. If it doesn't -- It's not a country.
Secondly..... They are hard working... However, they're totally willing to work for less money. This means that the native people of the country have to make less money just to compete with people who aren't supposed to be there in the first place. Not to mention their working doesn't help our economy at all if they're sending the money back home...
So in short, It doesn't matter who works harder.... That's totally fucking irrelevant to the situation. Who's job is it supposed to be, is what we need to be asking...
I'm not racist, I have mexican friends, and I also work with some illegals, and I treat them with respect. However, if I were offered the choice between making $3/hr less and working with them or making $3/hr more and abiding by the law... My choice wouldn't be hard.
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The economy sucks because the government has been overspending their money on stupid shit for 40 years. Added government expenditures like the Iraq war have taken a toll on our public debt and have hurt the economy, but in general the government running a deficit doesn't mess up the economy too much.
A) So did we. In fact, most of Iraq's weaponry came from us. A good amount of Iran's weaponry came from us as well. Hey, same for Afghanistan. Oh, and Saudi Arabia too.
B) It was no more warring than anywhere else in the world until Britain and France started having teaparties down there.
C) Maybe. But Iraqis weren't the terrorists. Neither were Iranians. Al Qaeda comes from our biggest arab ally.
D) I wonder which have caused more terror to innocent civilians. Those three commercial jets on 9/11 or our fleet of F18s/F22s.
The problem with the wall is that most illegal immigrants don't actually want to live here. They just want to work here. Increasing border security has forced them to live here because it's not worth the risk to travel back anymore.
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Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson.
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i like the people who do the shit jobs i wont do, and they do them really cheap. I don't exactly plan on competing for a job in lawn mowing, so i'm not too worried about them.
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On June 20 2008 07:19 Motiva wrote:
First of all, A country has to respect it's own borders, and It's own people. If it doesn't -- It's not a country.
This is the most insidious, masked-evil right wing, anti-sharing statement I've ever seen ¬¬.
Imo all that's important is that everyone in the country is working hard to make their lives better AND the country better. Doesn't matter what colour you are or what blood you have, there are people who do it and people who don't on ALL sides.
I think that if there weren't so many fucking arch-conservative rich bastards in high-up places, America would be well on the way to better city infrastructures and enough space to house 500k people.
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On June 20 2008 07:20 Jibba wrote:
D) I wonder which have caused more terror to innocent civilians. Those three commercial jets on 9/11 or our fleet of F18s/F22s.
Beautiful
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Most ignorant media influenced opinion imagineable, no numbers, no idea, just looking at things the way they are and pissing in the wind to make up your mind. Pathetic.
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On June 20 2008 07:28 d1v wrote:
Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson.
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A. US supplied arms to many smaller countries in Africa, etc and even Cuba in order to gain allies.
B. Mostly due to Sunni and Shiite tensions that we should never have interfered with.
C. How could Bill Clinton predict that...?
D. It was not the Iraqis that crashed the planes. They were Al Qaeda terrorists, in the forgotten country of Afghanistan.
Please do a bit more research...
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you know who's an asshole?
Lou Dobbs
fuck that guy
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The economy sucks because the government has been overspending their money on stupid shit for 40 years. Bush has been president for only almost 8 years, wierd huh?
Wrong. Up until Bush, we had surplus funds that we expected to last for a decade. Bush has not only depleted those funds, he has put us in major debt.
A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war.
America provided weapons to Saddam.
B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed.
Wrong.
C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east.
Fair enough.
D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS.
"They"? What propaganda are you smoking?
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don't worry vedic, I doubt anyone is taking him seriously 
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Wait...are there seriously people who still believe Iraq had anything to do with 9/11?
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On June 20 2008 07:50 HamerD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:19 Motiva wrote:
First of all, A country has to respect it's own borders, and It's own people. If it doesn't -- It's not a country.
This is the most insidious, masked-evil right wing, anti-sharing statement I've ever seen ¬¬. Imo all that's important is that everyone in the country is working hard to make their lives better AND the country better. Doesn't matter what colour you are or what blood you have, there are people who do it and people who don't on ALL sides. I think that if there weren't so many fucking arch-conservative rich bastards in high-up places, America would be well on the way to better city infrastructures and enough space to house 500k people.
How is that evil? He said NOTHING about color. I'm sure, if illegal immigrants went through the process like everyone else had to do moving to America, there would few people who would actually say anything against it. If anything, stopping illegal immigration would be a benefit for people working illegally in this country. They would be guaranteed a wage, not have to worry about their families, and enjoy a higher quality of life. There is absolutely no reason--except for impatience and not wanting to pay taxes--to work here illegally. And before you say oh, it's far too hard for immigrants to get visas etc, you're right. It is hard. Know why? Because there are so many illegal immigrants in this country, that the government has to stem the flow some how so our infrastructure doesn't collapse.
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On June 20 2008 07:19 Motiva wrote:
First of all, A country has to respect it's own borders, and It's own people. If it doesn't -- It's not a country.
First of all.. IIRC USA was founded by immigrants, and a part of the United States was part of México.. we lost Texas and others states, not because the "war" or our dear friend "Santa Ana", that war started because USA immigrants controlled more than the 70% of the population at that time and "asked" for "emancipation" only to join later to US, that shit happened long time ago, and thats why there are cities like "San Fransisco", "Los Angeles", "Texas"(old Spanish for "tejas").. well its ironic that some of those cities have a big Latino (NOT ONLY MEXICANS) population now..
Secondly..... They are hard working... However, they're totally willing to work for less money. This means that the native people of the country have to make less money just to compete with people who aren't supposed to be there in the first place.
Ok, don't know exactly where to start.. most of the immigrants are poor people from the countryside so they cant expect to finish their studies, or work at something else, since we have a bad goverment they cant expect to earn too much money, BUT, going to the US they have a chance to do the same work, earning a lot more, enough to sustain themselves and also sustain their families.. they do the work that most of the Americans don't want to do in first place.. no offense, I don't know whats your job.. but seriously, i doubt that they let immigrant people do brain surgery or something like that..
Not to mention their working doesn't help our economy at all if they're sending the money back home...
Oh really? im not going to deep at this, lets just say... "Pedro" earned 300dlls last month, he sends 200bucks to his family here at Mexico, how did he send it? he used Money transfer, quick googling allowed me to know this, Money Gram net income for the third quarter of 2004 was $24.5 million dlls, well thats just Money Gram, but i think that they must give some employs to american people right? or do they hire immigrants?... also, Money Gram pay taxes isn't that right?
But wait, how did "Pedro" expended the rest? well, i am sure he went to a wal-mart or something like that for supplies, giving back the money.. to another well based american company..
Please, im not willing to start a flame war, i just wanted to tell you, dont fool yourself..
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You are a huge moron.
On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east.
The war in Iraq has been caused by another huge moron who lied and said that Iraq has WMD and links with AL-Quaida terrorists because he wanted Iraqi oil.
On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS.
Who ?
Shia muslims ? Sunnis ? terrorists ?
Do you know that most of the terrorists were from Saoudi Arabia and not from Iraq ?
On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Totally bush's fault, I mean what an idiot for attacking an terrorists who were killing innocent citizens, causing damage to our cities and causing mass hysteria. Who doesn't want to live in a state of fear? Why didn't bush know we liked suicide bombers blowing up our friends and family?
When will you understand that Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11 and AL-quaida ?
On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Europe also loves their trains being blown up by crazy extremists. It is a darn shame bush is ruining all the fun.
Ban this retard please.
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You are a really stupid person, reason D) is really stupid, I mean first USA tells that Osama did that, he is from afganistan (which you allready invaded), then goes to Irak to find "Weapons of Mass Destruccion" and finds nothing.
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Ever think of working on the Mexican government? Can you really expect a country like the United States, who's social programs are hardly paid for by taxes and who's economic prowess are faltering, to support all the poor from Mexico? I know the gobierno is corrupt. Mexicans, as a people, have to have pride in their country and fix their government. Why drive a currently first world country down, when you can work on creating a new one?
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Umm... the economy being shit is Greenspan's fault. Not Bush's.
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On June 20 2008 07:13 besiger.cry wrote:
they work hard and for less moneyz, thats why they are being kicked out
A lot of the jobs they do other white Americans wouldn't do anyway so it's a win/win really to a certain extent. As long as there aren't too many flooding in which is the concern.
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On June 20 2008 12:12 Semagdnim wrote:
Ever think of working on the Mexican government? Can you really expect a country like the United States, who's social programs are hardly paid for by taxes and who's economic prowess are faltering, to support all the poor from Mexico? I know the gobierno is corrupt. Mexicans, as a people, have to have pride in their country and fix their government. Why drive a currently first world country down, when you can work on creating a new one?
What they were doing before it became a big deal is no different than what every other immigrant group has done in the past. Come to the US for work, to send money back to their family.
It's not as if things magically changed in the 90s and Mexicans suddenly wanted to start living in the US. The US has made a huge mistake by trying to build a wall and dedicating so much money to securing our borders.
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On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS.
Ban this stupid piece of shit.
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On June 20 2008 15:51 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS. Ban this stupid piece of shit.
He's just really misinformed and naive. I honestly don't understand why people associate the war with Iraq, with 9/11. It's two totally different events.
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On June 20 2008 07:28 d1v wrote:
Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson.
Funny coming from a german being so righteous. Have you learned your lesson 60-70 years ago?
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On June 20 2008 16:22 Krohm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 15:51 Mindcrime wrote:On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS. Ban this stupid piece of shit. He's just really misinformed and naive. I honestly don't understand why people associate the war with Iraq, with 9/11. It's two totally different events.
not to mention all of Bush's people systematically shunning him and writing books on all the shit he/they lied about, Iraq war included obviously.
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On June 20 2008 19:18 Holylight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:28 d1v wrote:
Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson. Funny coming from a german being so righteous. Have you learned your lesson 60-70 years ago?
Holylight you are a dipshit, why would you even say something like that. That is totally irrelevant to anything. It was "60-70 years ago". This blog is so full of ignorance, and bad information.
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On June 20 2008 19:18 Holylight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:28 d1v wrote:
Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson. Funny coming from a german being so righteous. Have you learned your lesson 60-70 years ago?
Wow...
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And the hobo hasn't replied. Congrats yall, bottled him up good *TU*
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On June 20 2008 19:18 Holylight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:28 d1v wrote:
Considering your statements about Bush and Clinton, you sir, have no idea what you're talking about. I would elaborate, but to be honest, I don't think that it's worth my time. Clinton may have been one of the best presidents ever, whereas Bush has certainly been one of the worst. Blaming absolutely every of America's problems on his incompetence would be ignorant, but he clearly is the main factor. I really welcome the end of these 8 years of lacking diplomacy, ridiculous American home policy, war and decline of welfare. I just hope the Americans have learnt their lesson. Funny coming from a german being so righteous. Have you learned your lesson 60-70 years ago?
Really unnecessary...
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On June 20 2008 16:22 Krohm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 15:51 Mindcrime wrote:On June 20 2008 07:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
The war in Iraq has been caused by A) Soviets selling weapons to middle east during cold war. B) That fucking place has been a warzone ever since it existed. C) Bill clinton was too busy getting his cock sucked to do anything about the terrorists taking over in middle east. D) THEY CRASHED FUCKING PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS AND TRIED TO DO IT MANY TIMES AGAIN AFTERWARDS. Ban this stupid piece of shit. He's just really misinformed and naive. I honestly don't understand why people associate the war with Iraq, with 9/11. It's two totally different events.
People make that association because figures in the administration (Dick Cheney, most notably), and their mouthpieces on Fox News were telling them to and also because they are stupid as hell.
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On June 20 2008 19:18 Holylight wrote:
Funny coming from a german being so righteous. Have you learned your lesson 60-70 years ago?
Ban him too please.
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I never knew one blog could cause so much trouble. Trolling/politics do not mix. Lesson learned :D
EDIT: The anti-german comment was so fucked up. Nazis=Germans, not Germans=Nazis.
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On June 20 2008 15:17 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2008 07:13 besiger.cry wrote:
they work hard and for less moneyz, thats why they are being kicked out A lot of the jobs they do other white Americans wouldn't do anyway so it's a win/win really to a certain extent. As long as there aren't too many flooding in which is the concern.
Not true the problem is that they do it for less money
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