• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:44
CEST 19:44
KST 02:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters0Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)65Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion Animated Gateway
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6968 users

Switching from Protoss to Zerg: Day One

Blogs > Salv
Post a Reply
Normal
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 12 2008 21:12 GMT
#1
Alright, so I recently made a blog post about switching to Zerg. I got quite a few comments, mostly saying goodluck, some saying I was traitor and I think Chill likened it to playing in a windtunnel. Awesome.

So today was the first day on iCCup and I went 4-3. That is not bad I suppose. Though I learned a few things right away:

1 ) Wholly shit is it a lot harder to macro. The first game I would put my extra hats at random bases, so my layout was a lot like: main - 3 hat, natural - 2 hat, 2nd natural - 2 hat and so on. It would be the same as a Protoss making their gateways two at a time and in random locations. Hard to get used to, but now I just put all my extra hats in my main. Brainpower.

2 ) Besides macroing, there is easily four to five times as many things to do as a Zerg than a Protoss. I don't spam at all, so as a Protoss, I just start the game and just kind of chill for the first two minutes. It's not like i'm wigging out now that I am playing Z, but I am definately finding it harder to keep track of everything past the ~5minute mark. Oh the humanity.

3 ) Muta micro is hard. I'l be honest, when Zerg's would complain about battle.net latency and hype up LAN latency, I would usually just call them bitches and end it at that, but there is such a difference I feel like such a tool now. I would apologize to the Zergs I said that too, but I am a manly man, so no can do.

4 ) It's really fun annoying the hell out of Protoss. As a Protoss player before, I would cleverly call these players faggots, but now I realise how fun it is to go 9pool and follow up with some really fast mutalisk or something. Just anything to piss them off. I also experienced the joy of having a guy cuss me out after I made sunk lurk spore and smartly suicided into it. Great fun.

It's only been one day, so I don't have much else to say. Expect more tomorrow.

*****
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 12 2008 21:14 GMT
#2
Keep it up Zerg is so much better ~ ^^
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 12 2008 21:15 GMT
#3
hahaha

now you know why terran and zerg players make fun of protoss players
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 12 2008 21:21 GMT
#4
I play zerg the second most frequently, and I can say, there are <5 times as many things to do.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
June 12 2008 21:26 GMT
#5
'Toss to Zerg? You have my respects.
XK ßubonic
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
June 12 2008 21:28 GMT
#6
Hey I am gonna switch from toss to zerg too!!!!

I saw a replay of 9 overpool speedlings and I am like "HOLY SHIT THAT IS FUCKING AMAZING." So yeah. Pretty much.
...
born-to-porn
Profile Joined January 2004
Denmark400 Posts
June 12 2008 21:28 GMT
#7
ZvP is so great because you have such great map awareness at all times that you can basically make anything work if you do it right.
Nobody beats the Beater
wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
June 12 2008 21:39 GMT
#8
Zerg always been my race, and il never switch.. im infested by the overmind itself. i feel like a brother of Kerrigan herself
We shouldnt recreate anger of the non-virtual world
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 12 2008 21:44 GMT
#9
i enjoy having a zerg that goes "play a real men's race" and leave just because of 4858955 cannons.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 12 2008 22:03 GMT
#10
haha lol awesome man. I am a noob but whenever I switch from terran to protoss i am pro xD. Protoss are so fucking easy lol. Every unit is rock hard, they can do unlimited uber harass, their ground army is invincible and half medics itself. Their fucking minerals OMG! They have SO FUCKING MANY so fucking quickly! It feels like double the amount terran have ><.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
June 12 2008 22:09 GMT
#11
wait til you try zvz, you'll want to kill yourself. It's not like any other MU in sc.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 12 2008 22:18 GMT
#12
On June 13 2008 07:03 HamerD wrote:
haha lol awesome man. I am a noob but whenever I switch from terran to protoss i am pro xD. Protoss are so fucking easy lol. Every unit is rock hard, they can do unlimited uber harass, their ground army is invincible and half medics itself. Their fucking minerals OMG! They have SO FUCKING MANY so fucking quickly! It feels like double the amount terran have ><.

do a timing attack on protoss and youre guaranteed a win.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 12 2008 22:27 GMT
#13
ZvZ is so friggin' fun... -_- so is TvT...
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 12 2008 22:34 GMT
#14
@Fusion, unfortunately yes! Protoss takes a lot of skill too, but I think it's definately easier to play Protoss. I'm slowing getting used to the craziness of Zerg.

@Ancestral, your entitled to your opinion, but for mathematical purpose; assuming there is no spamming (you have to take my word for it when I say this) I usually have 130-140 APM as Protoss and I do just fine. I have 160-180 in all my Zerg games and I am like.. a D level Zerg, so it definately requires a lot more micromanagement imo.

@Bub, Appreciate it

@Hobo, if I see you on, we will bo99 ZvZ gogo

@B2Porn, yeah man. Not only that, but I can see what a Protoss is doing and think about what I wouldn't want to have to fight at that time; than make those units! Awesome.

@Woop/Raithed, lol :p

@Hamer, I guarantee if I played Zerg for a month and switched back, I would play Protoss a lot better from just having to get used to the speed of things. That being said, I don't think I'l want to switch back.

@Quesadilla, oddly enough, I've done alright ZvZ so far. Keep in mind i've only played regular D's, but I am done pretty well for myself thus far.

@Raithed2; I know all too well -_-
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
June 12 2008 22:58 GMT
#15
salv why did you ask to join smi. then never play on tag ;_;
Entusman #12
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
June 12 2008 22:59 GMT
#16
This is an interesting read
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 12 2008 23:00 GMT
#17
On June 13 2008 07:34 Salv wrote:
@Fusion, unfortunately yes! Protoss takes a lot of skill too, but I think it's definately easier to play Protoss. I'm slowing getting used to the craziness of Zerg.

@Ancestral, your entitled to your opinion, but for mathematical purpose; assuming there is no spamming (you have to take my word for it when I say this) I usually have 130-140 APM as Protoss and I do just fine. I have 160-180 in all my Zerg games and I am like.. a D level Zerg, so it definately requires a lot more micromanagement imo.

@Bub, Appreciate it

@Hobo, if I see you on, we will bo99 ZvZ gogo

@B2Porn, yeah man. Not only that, but I can see what a Protoss is doing and think about what I wouldn't want to have to fight at that time; than make those units! Awesome.

@Woop/Raithed, lol :p

@Hamer, I guarantee if I played Zerg for a month and switched back, I would play Protoss a lot better from just having to get used to the speed of things. That being said, I don't think I'l want to switch back.

@Quesadilla, oddly enough, I've done alright ZvZ so far. Keep in mind i've only played regular D's, but I am done pretty well for myself thus far.

@Raithed2; I know all too well -_-


rofl this guy is fucking attentive to his blog-goers xD
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 12 2008 23:07 GMT
#18
a lot of blogs about people switching races recently. Zerg is a lot of fun and I think it is the hardest to play.
I'm actually thinking of changes race as well. Do you think I should switch to toss or are there too many already? I'm Terran atm
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
June 12 2008 23:26 GMT
#19
One day Ill switch to zerg, i swear it!

Ive been saying that for years but hey maybe your blog will inspire me =D


GL//GJ^^
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 12 2008 23:57 GMT
#20
On June 13 2008 08:07 kNyTTyM wrote:
or are there too many already?

Yes.

Moderator。◕‿◕。
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 13 2008 00:37 GMT
#21
be z so i can eat youuu.
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
June 13 2008 02:07 GMT
#22
to the original poster:
hey, i need some practice p v z ^________^ would you play me??

if i dont take it in the midgame, or if i dont have a huge advantage, i cant win against zerg. even late game is so hard to take for me T___T

pm me if you would play XD
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
June 13 2008 02:40 GMT
#23
On June 13 2008 08:07 kNyTTyM wrote:
a lot of blogs about people switching races recently. Zerg is a lot of fun and I think it is the hardest to play.
I'm actually thinking of changes race as well. Do you think I should switch to toss or are there too many already? I'm Terran atm
Just stick with terran mate. Way too many protoss. Id be a terran or zerg if I could. Im better at macro with a zerg, and know terran BO's more, but their play styles dont fit me. Sometimes I wish I could handle the other races well, but im stuck with toss. No reason for you to be, though!
Can you dig it?
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 14 2008 04:51 GMT
#24
kyjori, I am Salv on iCCup, hit me up.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#59
RotterdaM890
TaKeTV 414
TKL 361
SteadfastSC204
IndyStarCraft 169
BRAT_OK 130
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 890
TKL 361
SteadfastSC 204
IndyStarCraft 169
Harstem 162
BRAT_OK 130
RushiSC 90
MindelVK 16
UpATreeSC 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2360
Soulkey 184
ggaemo 181
firebathero 170
Dewaltoss 164
Pusan 79
Hyun 36
Free 35
yabsab 31
910 25
[ Show more ]
Aegong 25
JulyZerg 24
Bale 20
HiyA 20
IntoTheRainbow 14
Yoon 13
Hm[arnc] 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
420jenkins2099
Fuzer 150
League of Legends
Trikslyr55
Counter-Strike
fl0m1724
FalleN 1140
x6flipin840
edward236
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor219
Other Games
singsing2393
Grubby1679
ceh91078
B2W.Neo348
Livibee79
KnowMe73
JuggernautJason51
QueenE45
Rex15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2222
BasetradeTV234
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 8
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3933
• TFBlade807
Other Games
• imaqtpie575
• Shiphtur490
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 16h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Serral vs SHIN
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Solar
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.