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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 14 2008 04:37 GMT
#21
Get the weightgainer protein powder + try to eat a lot more calories a day than you would normally do.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
May 14 2008 04:38 GMT
#22
On May 14 2008 12:34 JudgeMathis wrote:

When I go to the gym..
M: Chest / Triceps / Abs
Tues: Shoulders / Biceps(2 works out instead of 4) / Abs
Wed: Back / Lower Back / Abs
Thur: Side of abs / abs
Fri: Every body part(1-2 workouts for each body part)
Sat: Every body part(1-2 workouts for each body part)
Sun: Relax day, fuck the gym.

I haven't done this routine in a month, but I'm going back to it this week.


top heavy much eh?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 14 2008 04:41 GMT
#23
anyways, for supplements I take

Vitamin E (helps muscles recover in a variety of ways)
Vitamin C (helps metabolize fat, helps re-supply vitamin E, helps protect against viral infection)
Hemp Protein Powder (bar none the healthiest protein powder)
Joint Supplement (glucosamine + chondroitin obv)
Electrolytes (emergen-C)
Omega 3 fish oil



and I'd prolly take a vitamin-B supplement if I didn't already take adderal.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 14 2008 05:44 GMT
#24
On May 14 2008 13:27 travis wrote:
alot of cholesterol if you buy into that crap though


arent they the good cholesterol anyway?
Moonlight Shadow
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 14 2008 06:30 GMT
#25
yes
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
May 14 2008 08:08 GMT
#26
On May 14 2008 12:16 statix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 12:02 Jibba wrote:

How can you guys actually like the taste of ON? Did you rape all of your tastebuds? I don't think it's possible once you start using some of the better stuff like Nectar.




I don't know what you think you've tried but ON protein tastes awesome to me.

Isn't nectar the brand that tried to sue people over at bodybuilding.com for questioning whether or not they really had 0 carbs and used to artificial sweeteners...lol



I've been using the Vanilla flavored ON whey for a few weeks now. I'm used to it now, but I do have to say when I first started taking it it totally tasted like ass. I was really surprised because it's a very popular brand. But ya I really had to force it down. Now I can deal with it fine. A suggestion: if it tastes bad, adding ice to it and making nice and cold really helps to get it down. It makes it taste better somehow. Oh well, who likes drinking warm coke anyway?

In the past I've used EAS 100% Whey Protein Banana flavor. I wouldn't recommend the flavor, but it's not bad and it will mix with a spoon. I've also used Vanilla flavored Prolabs Pure Whey. This one really tasted awesome. It was like vanilla flavored milk, it just tasted really, really good, especially when it was cold. However, this one DOES NOT mix with a spoon, so you're going to have to use a shaker bottle or a blender.

And yes, like jkilla said, eat more calories. Make sure its not TOO much though, otherwise you will get fat. I should imagine you can find a calorie calculator on bodybuilding.com for your ideal daily caloric intake. Also make sure its all good food, not junk. You're probably getting lots of protein and carbs, but make sure you don't forget the fats. EFAs (essential fatty acids aka omega 3 and 6) are essential for hormonal production and they help keep your testosterone high = more growth. Good luck, and stop doing that pussy workout.
^_~
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 20:37:24
May 14 2008 08:09 GMT
#27
If you aren't gaining any weight, you are not getting enough calories. simple as that.

So start by eating 6 times or more a day, evenly spaced out. Get about 15 to 20 times your bodyweight. So for you, 170x15=2550 calories at least. Split these calories into Protein/Fat/Carbs as you like, but the recommended ratio is about 40P/30F/30C.

Following the 40/30/30 ratio, you should take in (2550/4x.4) = 255g Protein, and (2550/4x.3) = 191g Carbs, and(2550/9x.3) = 85g Fat.

Personally I do not think we need that much protein and I stick to 1g per pound of bodyweight.

Whey protein supplements are an easy source of protein but an expensive source of calories. Consider trying a gainer instead. These are packed with carbs and fats in addition to protein. I recommend UN's Massive Whey Gainer, which doesnt have scary amounts of saturated fats (sat fats are probably fine its just my personal preference to stay away from too much)

For the meal before you sleep, i would suggest a nice slow digesting casein supplement such as ON's 100% Casein or ISS's Micellar Matrix.

I dont think you need anything else other than a nice multivit and EFAs.
edit: just realised the calculations were wrong, and also the guy below me is right, u probably have a very high metabolic rate so eat more big macs.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
May 14 2008 18:16 GMT
#28
On May 14 2008 17:09 gusbear wrote:

So start by eating 6 times or more a day, evenly spaced out. Get about 15 to 20 times your bodyweight. So for you, 170x15=2550 calories at least.


I wouldn't follow this advice. Unless you're gaining massive amounts of fat, just eat as much as you can. If I followed this formula and ate 15 times my body weight in calories a day, I'd lose 3-4 pounds a week. My BMR is double what it should be for my weight (hence why I have trouble gaining). If you're the same way, you need to eat 4000+ calories a day, and try for 5000 on a gain cycle.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32046 Posts
May 14 2008 18:26 GMT
#29
On May 14 2008 12:41 useLess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 11:39 BaDayOri wrote:
I eat like a champ so I dont think its the food.. most likely my neglect of squats and core exercises.. all I mostly did was the double B's (bench and biceps)


uh, you call that working out?

bench press, squats, deadlifts - theyre compound exercises, which means they work more than one muscle group. do them, and do them right.


There's your answer right there... not much need for anything else besides a real workout and whey.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 14 2008 18:29 GMT
#30
On May 14 2008 17:09 gusbear wrote:
If you aren't gaining any weight, you are not getting enough calories. simple as that.

So start by eating 6 times or more a day, evenly spaced out. Get about 15 to 20 times your bodyweight. So for you, 170x15=2550 calories at least. Split these calories into Protein/Fat/Carbs as you like, but the recommended ratio is about 40P/30F/30C.

Following the 40/30/30 ratio, you should take in (2550/4x.4) = 255g Protein and 255g Carbs, and(2550/9x.4) = 113g Fat.

Personally I do not think we need that much protein and I stick to 1g per pound of bodyweight.

Whey protein supplements are an easy source of protein but an expensive source of calories. Consider trying a gainer instead. These are packed with carbs and fats in addition to protein. I recommend UN's Massive Whey Gainer, which doesnt have scary amounts of saturated fats (sat fats are probably fine its just my personal preference to stay away from too much)

For the meal before you sleep, i would suggest a nice slow digesting casein supplement such as ON's 100% Casein or ISS's Micellar Matrix.

I dont think you need anything else other than a nice multivit and EFAs.



this guy gives pretty good advice but I would add that for the evening I don't actually think you need a supplement, a glass of milk right before bed should give you all the casein you need.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 14 2008 21:39 GMT
#31
On May 14 2008 17:09 gusbear wrote:
Personally I do not think we need that much protein and I stick to 1g per pound of bodyweight.


its about 0.75g to 1g of protein per kg in bodyweight to maintain, 1-2g or more to put on more muscle. thats in addition to working out hard and giving your body sufficient rest
Moonlight Shadow
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 15 2008 13:04 GMT
#32
On May 15 2008 06:39 useLess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 17:09 gusbear wrote:
Personally I do not think we need that much protein and I stick to 1g per pound of bodyweight.


its about 0.75g to 1g of protein per kg in bodyweight to maintain, 1-2g or more to put on more muscle. thats in addition to working out hard and giving your body sufficient rest

there are many schools of thought on the amount of protein, fat and carbs to take; the only sure thing that is relevant to the OP's plight is to pack on the calories. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=337536
drakkon
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada260 Posts
May 15 2008 15:39 GMT
#33
Whey, fish oil and a multi vitamin. Thats all you need.
BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 22:51:02
May 15 2008 22:33 GMT
#34
On May 14 2008 11:44 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 11:39 BaDayOri wrote:
I live in the U.S. sorry for the confusion


Quick fix: Click on My TL.net, edit profile, and change country to US. Claiming you're from South Korea doesn't make anyone think you're cool.

Im korean so I was referring to my nationality not my location buddy

On May 14 2008 12:41 useLess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 11:39 BaDayOri wrote:
I eat like a champ so I dont think its the food.. most likely my neglect of squats and core exercises.. all I mostly did was the double B's (bench and biceps)


uh, you call that working out?

bench press, squats, deadlifts - theyre compound exercises, which means they work more than one muscle group. do them, and do them right.

I don't mean I only benched and curled..I did rows, military, shrugs, but I mean all I really cared about was benching and arm size. Plus this was back when I didn't know shit.

I've come to realize how awesome compound lifts are when I saw a friend of mine who plays CB for my schools football team power clean 315 at 180 lbs. he also runs a 40 in 4.39
His entire back and traps are fucking insane.
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
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