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A while back (in December I think), I started a blog talking about my first few weeks in MMA class. ~5 Months later here I am presented with a problem.
When I first joined the class, there were a few guys there who were clearly better than me since they had been training for a lot longer. One guy in particular (the guy that I have a problem with) had trained in jiu jitsu for almost 5 years up until that point. After the first few classes, this guy just stopped showing up.
I guess I've progressed pretty quickly and I would consider myself either #1 or #2 in the class. Last week, jiu jitsu guy (let's call him Jeff) recently started showing up to class again. I initially thought this was pretty cool since I'd have more competition and get better training.
Well the other day my instructer was unable to come to class and he asked me if I would be able to run the class for him. I agreed and showed up last thursday not really knowing what we were going to do.
For the first hour and a half we had an awesome session of strength and conditioning training. I decided that since everyone was tired, we could slow things down and work on submission wrestling technique.
After a while, my fellow class mates started wanting to work on going for submissions and improving position. I was pretty hesitant since my instructor wasnt present but I agreed anyway.
Well it ended up being me vs Jeff for like an hour. I tapped him out 4 times via armbar, rear naked choke, guillotine, and a knee bar. He tapped me once by an ankle lock (which hurt like hell).
I guess he was getting pretty frustrated since he'd been a jiu jitsu practitioner for so many years and some little guy was tapping him out(im 5'8 155 lbs and he's 6'0 195 lbs.
I was about to end class and we were having one more grappling session. I caught hold of his leg and was rolling for a knee bar but in the process he grabbed hold of my ankle and heel hooked me almost immediately. I heard four distinctive pops. He stood up and let go of my leg and was clearly scared that he had broken my ankle or something. At first my ankle just felt a little weird and I didn't experience any pain at all. That would soon change however.
I probably got like 3 hours of sleep that night because the pain was pretty incredible. I went to the doctor the next morning and he told me that it wasn't broken but I had torn some ligaments and I would have to sit out of anything MMA related for a few weeks.
This SUCKS because I have a tournament in two months and every week of training is crucial. The more and more that I think about it I feel like Jeff did this on purpose because he was so frustrated at his inability to beat me. Ofcourse it makes me angry but at the same time really confused.
Why would he apply so much pressure to my ankle during a training session? It would be the equivalent of me hyper extending his arm when I had him in that armbar instead of just waiting for him to tap.
It makes me feel like really turning it on the next time we roll, not hurting him but just embarrassing the shit out of him. However, part of me keeps saying that (because of the way he reacted)it was just an accident and stuff like this happens.
Would you guys harbor ill feelings towards someone if something like this happened to you? Maybe it's just the upcoming tournament that has me stressed or something. No matter what happens I'm still going to compete in the tournament. I just hope that my ankle will heal as soon as possible.
-statix
 
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if i wasnt too high maybe i may answer you
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I say talk to him about it like two grown men. If you go hard on him next time whatever is between you two will just get worse, and then besides missing out on a couple of weeks of training, you'll also have to deal with a shitty relationship with him. So, explain to him what happened, and ask that he be much more mindful in the future. It's just training, no one should be getting worked up.
If he's an ass about it or it continues, I suggest talking with you instructor about it.
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I think it's understandable that he got angry/frustrated when he lost to you, since he's been training for such a long time. Wouldn't you be frustrated if you were him in that situation? Imagine you've been training SC for 5 years and some rather new player walks up and totally kicks your ass...
Judging from his reaction (as you described it), I don't think that he hurt you on purpose, maybe he got a little reckless; accidents happen...
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That sucks. =X But I think the thing is, as long as (as poilord put it, "accidents happen...") he's scared of repeating something similar, he won't try it again. Which would mean it would be better to just let it go, rather than trying something on him and exacerbating a problem between the two of you. Of course, if there's a similar event, you probably want to talk to him straight up......
Good luck though, and if you can't participate, better luck for the next tournament.~ x3
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oh man
talk to him
like a gentleman!
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I probably should have mentioned that he's only 17 and he's really immature. He's the kind of guy that's really hard ot have a serious conversation with. I'll probably just let the whole thing slide anyway but I still feel....I don't even know how to explain it...robbed, cheated, angry, etc.
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On May 06 2008 06:36 poilord wrote:
Wouldn't you be frustrated if you were him in that situation? Imagine you've been training SC for 5 years and some rather new player walks up and totally kicks your ass...
Haha, I was actually going to say this in my original post but forgot.
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On May 06 2008 06:52 statix wrote:
I probably should have mentioned that he's only 17 and he's really immature. He's the kind of guy that's really hard ot have a serious conversation with. I'll probably just let the whole thing slide anyway but I still feel....I don't even know how to explain it...robbed, cheated, angry, etc.
I sympathize with you, but being mature would probably involve sticking to your pledge to forget the whole thing and giving him another chance. =X You'll have to work it out within yourself, but turning around and blasting him with a hidden grudge would be the opposite.
=( I hope that helps. Good luck.~ xO
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On May 06 2008 07:01 Descent wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 06:52 statix wrote:
I probably should have mentioned that he's only 17 and he's really immature. He's the kind of guy that's really hard ot have a serious conversation with. I'll probably just let the whole thing slide anyway but I still feel....I don't even know how to explain it...robbed, cheated, angry, etc. I sympathize with you, but being mature would probably involve sticking to your pledge to forget the whole thing and giving him another chance. =X You'll have to work it out within yourself, but turning around and blasting him with a hidden grudge would be the opposite. =( I hope that helps. Good luck.~ xO
This actually did help, thanks.
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That sucks, but it also kinda reminds me of one reason why I don't do this kind of stuff.
I'm glad to hear you've otherwise been pretty successful with it though.
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i really doubt he did it totally on purpose. More like he got _really_ frustrated and kinda acted impulsively.
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Since its fighting, who wouldn't get that natural anger stir up? And you were owning him anyways but you should ask and talk about it and what happened to your ankle.
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On May 06 2008 10:07 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Since its fighting, who wouldn't get that natural anger stir up?.
you'd be surprised how friendly people can be when they get punched in the face. Usually when were sparring and somebody hits me with a good shot ill say "good one" or "nice" because it's my fault for not protecting myself and their achievement for noticing it.
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Give him a chance. This was the first such incident, and mistakes do happen, although it's questionable whether it was a mistake or not. I'd say he was trying to 'get back' at you for getting owned by you in practice, but went a little too far and ended up injuring you rather than just causing temporary pain.
Don't retaliate. If it was a mistake, and you retaliate, then you're the one who is being a dick. If it was intentional, and you do something to him, he will do something back to you, probably something even worse. This will just escalate, and make both your life and his very difficult.
It definitely is unfair, but you should be the mature one. I recently experienced one such experience where I had the option to retaliate or to suck it up and move on. And let me tell you, the option to walk away with your head held high was not an easy one. I had thoughts of revenge and vindication 24/7, and I'm pretty sure you do too. But be the better man. Others will respect you for it.
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