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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-03 21:24:38
May 03 2008 21:22 GMT
#1
There has been a new development in my search for a car. I received the new edition of Consumer Reports today which has the promised Road test: Hatchbacks. As mentioned in my previous blog post, I've been seriously considering a hatchback (although I'm not sold yet) but the previous edition of CR, the Annual Auto Issue, did not have data for many of the new models. This has been partially rectified.

They have now published an updated ratings chart for comparing all of the cars in this class. Only the 2008 Toyota Matrix and Scion xD are said to be too new to have reliable data. In descending rating order (best first)(bold indicates highly recommended):

Volkswagen Rabbit:
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Toyota Prius:
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Mazda3:
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Subaru Impreza:
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These four hatchbacks are all recommended, but the rabbit and Impreza are highly recommended due to safety features. I read their one page article on the Rabbit, and learned that the only real drawback with it is that it has slightly lower than expected fuel economy. It is hailed for its agility, ride, braking, transmission, controls, solid fit and finish, and turning circle. It's a little bit cheaper than the mazda3. The tested price was 19,725 USD but I'd expect one I'd go for to be 20-21k.

The Impreza seems to be very similar to the Rabbit except it is slightly more money, and has options to be upgraded to a higher level (including a 305 hp turbo). Other than that, I see no real advantage to it over the Rabbit.

I'm still interested in the Mazda3, but I'm also considering both the Rabbit and the Impreza. I'm very open to suggestions or information about how to choose between these models. I'm also still open to talk about other types of cars besides the ones discussed here. It's almost time for me to start shopping seriously, I think.

Edit: I'm not too keen on the Prius right now...

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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 03 2008 21:28 GMT
#2
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-03 21:31:15
May 03 2008 21:31 GMT
#3
On May 04 2008 06:28 Jibba wrote:
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.

Any serious reasons why Impreza > Rabbit/Mazda3?
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
May 03 2008 21:32 GMT
#4
all of these cars make me think of a soccer mom
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 03 2008 21:33 GMT
#5
On May 04 2008 06:32 CaucasianAsian wrote:
all of these cars make me think of a soccer mom

Make some suggestions in the same price range.
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DukE_ss
Profile Joined June 2007
United States689 Posts
May 03 2008 21:47 GMT
#6
Hatchbacks are nice. My parents bought me suzuki sx4 in late 06 and have had no problems with it yet. Both my parents and I absolutely the sx4.
“When we seek to discover the best in others, we somehow bring out the best in ourselves.” William Arthur Ward "You are what you think, You become what you think, What you think becomes reality." Phil Hellmuth
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 03 2008 21:53 GMT
#7
On May 04 2008 06:47 DukE_ss wrote:
Hatchbacks are nice. My parents bought me suzuki sx4 in late 06 and have had no problems with it yet. Both my parents and I absolutely the sx4.

I see. That's a bit on the light side, but it looks good. I'm glad you enjoy it.
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DukE_ss
Profile Joined June 2007
United States689 Posts
May 03 2008 22:03 GMT
#8
On May 04 2008 06:53 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 06:47 DukE_ss wrote:
Hatchbacks are nice. My parents bought me suzuki sx4 in late 06 and have had no problems with it yet. Both my parents and I absolutely the sx4.

I see. That's a bit on the light side, but it looks good. I'm glad you enjoy it.


yeah that's one of the things I dislike about the car.
“When we seek to discover the best in others, we somehow bring out the best in ourselves.” William Arthur Ward "You are what you think, You become what you think, What you think becomes reality." Phil Hellmuth
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 03 2008 22:15 GMT
#9
Completely unadvised opinion: the Mazda looks best imo
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 03 2008 22:23 GMT
#10
On May 04 2008 07:15 minus_human wrote:
Completely unadvised opinion: the Mazda looks best imo

I think I agree with you. Of the ones above at least, the mazda looks slightly nicer.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 03 2008 22:28 GMT
#11
On May 04 2008 06:31 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 06:28 Jibba wrote:
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.

Any serious reasons why Impreza > Rabbit/Mazda3?

I would never get a hatchback, but I prefer more power and if I were to buy a new car right now, Subaru would be high in the running.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
May 03 2008 23:02 GMT
#12
Subaru's probably the best car out of that lot.

For 20-ish k why not spring for something like a MINI?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 03 2008 23:32 GMT
#13
On May 04 2008 07:28 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 06:31 micronesia wrote:
On May 04 2008 06:28 Jibba wrote:
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.

Any serious reasons why Impreza > Rabbit/Mazda3?

I would never get a hatchback, but I prefer more power and if I were to buy a new car right now, Subaru would be high in the running.

Why do you prefer more power? Are you saying you'd get the turbo engine?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 03 2008 23:33 GMT
#14
On May 04 2008 08:02 Last Romantic wrote:
Subaru's probably the best car out of that lot.

For 20-ish k why not spring for something like a MINI?

Mini is a little too small, a bit more expensive than the others, and the new model is a bit too new for there to be a judgment on predicted reliability. According to CR's review of the Mini Cooper Clubman: Highs: Agility, Fuel Economy, Braking, Fun to Drive; Lows: Controls, slight hesitation from a stop, rear visibility, premium fuel.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 03 2008 23:46 GMT
#15
On May 04 2008 08:32 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 07:28 Jibba wrote:
On May 04 2008 06:31 micronesia wrote:
On May 04 2008 06:28 Jibba wrote:
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.

Any serious reasons why Impreza > Rabbit/Mazda3?

I would never get a hatchback, but I prefer more power and if I were to buy a new car right now, Subaru would be high in the running.

Why do you prefer more power? Are you saying you'd get the turbo engine?

I haven't researched it but if money isn't an issue, probably. More power = more fun.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 04 2008 01:24 GMT
#16
On May 04 2008 08:46 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 08:32 micronesia wrote:
On May 04 2008 07:28 Jibba wrote:
On May 04 2008 06:31 micronesia wrote:
On May 04 2008 06:28 Jibba wrote:
I would get the Impreza. The Prius is not a fun car to drive and if you tell a girl you've got a Rabbit, she'll think you mean the vibrator.

Any serious reasons why Impreza > Rabbit/Mazda3?

I would never get a hatchback, but I prefer more power and if I were to buy a new car right now, Subaru would be high in the running.

Why do you prefer more power? Are you saying you'd get the turbo engine?

I haven't researched it but if money isn't an issue, probably. More power = more fun.

Also = more money because insurance will go up =(

I'm not 25 yet so my insurance is not fun to pay.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
May 04 2008 03:05 GMT
#17
prius looks sick
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
May 04 2008 03:08 GMT
#18
On May 04 2008 12:05 G5 wrote:
prius looks sick
[image loading]

Are you posting that picture in every thread you post in?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
May 04 2008 03:50 GMT
#19
On May 04 2008 06:22 micronesia wrote:
It's a little bit cheaper than the mazda3. The tested price was 19,725 USD but I'd expect one I'd go for to be 20-21k.


Have prices gone up lately? I got a new mazda6 in '05 for 18k total, and the mazda3 is cheaper. Obviously don't pay the sticker price on the car.

The mazda3 is the only one on your list I've actually driven, and I didn't like it that much. I don't like the shape of it on the inside, and the gas pedal felt flimsy. I love my mazda6, although the gas mileage in stop-and-go traffic is low 20's, which really sucks.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ZianG
Profile Joined February 2008
China104 Posts
May 04 2008 04:08 GMT
#20
Ooh the Subaru looks nice. Especially in that color.
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