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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 02:17:42
April 04 2008 02:13 GMT
#1
Anyone have any tips for me to break the 6min mile? On march 25th i ran a 6:41 mile, and on april 2nd, i ran 6:29. The one i did at 6:41 i didn't feel too tired afterwards, and i was upset by it, so on april 2nd i was really anxious to break 6mins, and i ran hard but only got 6:29, and i was quite dissapointed at myself and i felt i was hurting in my chest and concluding that i might of tried my hardest, ultimatly failed to reach the goal. My next chance to get under 6min is this satuday at april 5th. I really don't think any training for 1 day will help... Any mental tips/strategies? T_T





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OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
April 04 2008 02:18 GMT
#2
unless you weren't really pushing yourself your hardest....your not gonna improve your fastest mile by 30 sec overnight around those times;/
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
April 04 2008 02:24 GMT
#3
I think you should aim for a few seconds at a time... not sure how well that works for running since I haven't tried it... but it might be a good way to work towards your goal reasonably.
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
April 04 2008 02:29 GMT
#4
Patience. You aren't going to build a considerable amount of muscle, or improve your respiratory system in a matter of days. It takes weeks of training and good diet to see noticable results.
MC Fighting!~
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 04 2008 02:33 GMT
#5
The thing is that i've seen my running partners improve at a incredible fast pace, and during practice we run at similar paces, but in races they just excell more than i do. I'm starting to think perhaps i'm weak mentally...
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 02:37:16
April 04 2008 02:35 GMT
#6
The best bet is to run even paced, and make sure you don't go out too hard. You still need to get used to what it feel like to run 6 minute page. Probably try to run your 400 in about 85 seconds. The most important lap is lap 3, the first one you are fresh, the second one you aren't feeling too bad yet, and the last you one you are done afterwards. If you can just hang on as long as possible the third lap, you'll be in good shape. Most of all, just think you can do it. You won't be able to keep pace if you just are down on yourself thinking you aren't going do it.

Edit: Are your partners breaking 6? If so just latch on and stare at their back and don't lose contact. As soon as you let it only gets worse, so don't let yourself break contact
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
April 04 2008 02:46 GMT
#7
Sport exams?
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 02:49:07
April 04 2008 02:46 GMT
#8
On April 04 2008 11:35 berated- wrote:
The best bet is to run even paced, and make sure you don't go out too hard. You still need to get used to what it feel like to run 6 minute page. Probably try to run your 400 in about 85 seconds. The most important lap is lap 3, the first one you are fresh, the second one you aren't feeling too bad yet, and the last you one you are done afterwards. If you can just hang on as long as possible the third lap, you'll be in good shape. Most of all, just think you can do it. You won't be able to keep pace if you just are down on yourself thinking you aren't going do it.

Edit: Are your partners breaking 6? If so just latch on and stare at their back and don't lose contact. As soon as you let it only gets worse, so don't let yourself break contact


hehe the thing is that i used to be able to beat 2 out of 3 of my running partners, now during the last track meet i happened to get last even though i thought i tried my best. What confuses me is that during those 6-7 mile long road runs, i would happen to be like 400 meters behind, and then eventually catch up when hormones come in. Even they are suprised by that, and is confused why i suck at the mile... T_T

Maybe i don't' warm up well enough ;(...

BTW: during the last track meet where i got 6:29, it was a relay race, and i was the 4th/last person to go, maybe my warm up went to waste considering i had to wait like 20mins for the first 3 to finish.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
April 04 2008 03:13 GMT
#9
How long have you been training?

One possible scenario is that your training partners' bodies are more capable than yours. You can train all you want, but at some point genes are a part of the equation.

I went to state my senior year for the 4x4, so I can understand some of your frusturations when it comes to performance on any given day. But, really it just comes down to hard work, and wanting to finish 1st so f'ing badly. Nitpicking your warmups, snacks, stretches, socks, in the end won't help you too much.

In terms of mental strategy... I always went into this mindset "I am faster than everyone here, there is no excuse for losing."

Someone above mentioned pacing... and thats very important. Make sure that you are in total control of your strides, composure, and breathing. I could ramble more about positioning and the right times to burst, but I'll leave that to the countless running forums out there with people more knowledgable than I. I've had enough fun reminiscing about my track days
MC Fighting!~
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 03:28:17
April 04 2008 03:26 GMT
#10
On April 04 2008 12:13 Phoned wrote:
How long have you been training?

One possible scenario is that your training partners' bodies are more capable than yours. You can train all you want, but at some point genes are a part of the equation.

I went to state my senior year for the 4x4, so I can understand some of your frusturations when it comes to performance on any given day. But, really it just comes down to hard work, and wanting to finish 1st so f'ing badly. Nitpicking your warmups, snacks, stretches, socks, in the end won't help you too much.

In terms of mental strategy... I always went into this mindset "I am faster than everyone here, there is no excuse for losing."

Someone above mentioned pacing... and thats very important. Make sure that you are in total control of your strides, composure, and breathing. I could ramble more about positioning and the right times to burst, but I'll leave that to the countless running forums out there with people more knowledgable than I. I've had enough fun reminiscing about my track days


Heh i've actually been traning for some time, i joined cross country in the middle of the season at around october i believe. Then at middle of november season ended. I didn't do any other running for entire december until the first day of track began in feb.25's, and i've been running all until now.

And i do know what you mean by genes, i think asians aren't the best at running, except that one asian hurdler guy >. Most of asians at my school do tennis..
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
April 04 2008 03:52 GMT
#11
Whenever I train for road races, I always aim for doing more than the required. So if its a 5 km (~3 miles) I'll just concentrate on doing 3 1/2-4 miles. In your case, I'd start running at 1 1/2 miles. This may not be the best to speed up your time but I've found it works for me.

If you did cross country though, you should easily be able to break a 6 minute mile, especially if this is a flat 1 mile track.
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berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
April 04 2008 03:55 GMT
#12
On April 04 2008 12:13 Phoned wrote:
How long have you been training?

One possible scenario is that your training partners' bodies are more capable than yours. You can train all you want, but at some point genes are a part of the equation.

I went to state my senior year for the 4x4, so I can understand some of your frusturations when it comes to performance on any given day. But, really it just comes down to hard work, and wanting to finish 1st so f'ing badly. Nitpicking your warmups, snacks, stretches, socks, in the end won't help you too much.

In terms of mental strategy... I always went into this mindset "I am faster than everyone here, there is no excuse for losing."

Someone above mentioned pacing... and thats very important. Make sure that you are in total control of your strides, composure, and breathing. I could ramble more about positioning and the right times to burst, but I'll leave that to the countless running forums out there with people more knowledgable than I. I've had enough fun reminiscing about my track days


Even if the other guys are more capable, if you are running 6-7 mile training runs your body isn't maxed at 6:30. We had a guy that used to say anyone can run 9:15 in the 2 mile, and although he exaggerated it, he had a minor point. Distance running is all about training and being a mental badass. In reality, 5:20 or so isn't that fast for a mile if you are training all the time. Thats only 80 per 400, which I might even be able to pull off now 80 lbs up from my running weight. Just stick with your training and work on getting your mind right, and I think you'll see a nice drop in time.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 04 2008 04:18 GMT
#13
I'm not sure if treadmill speeds go high enough (I've never aimed for a 6min mile time myself), but could you try doing it on that first? I know it's not quite the same as treadmills are in door and such, but you gotta start somewhere right?

http://www.anglebar.com/chaneyfamilydotcom/runwithed/treadmill.html
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
April 04 2008 04:18 GMT
#14
have your coach/whoever give your time at each lap. set yourself on a 90 second per lap pace. if you're above that on a lap, speed up. be sure you're taking long strides, breathing in through nose out through mouth, are warmed up, etc etc all the things you already probably know. If you cant do it exerting all your mental will, then its merely a matter of training till you can.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 04 2008 04:41 GMT
#15
You could always pull a Roger Bannister and run down a miles worth of hills. ;D
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 04 2008 04:48 GMT
#16
anyways i'm going now, i'll post my result on saturday, if the coach wants me to run 1 mile, maybe i'll run 2, or maybe 800's...
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
April 04 2008 05:02 GMT
#17
the fastest i ever got was like 6:40
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 04 2008 05:20 GMT
#18
Goodluck :D

Breaking 6 honestly isn't that hard; you just have to train hard and have the mindset that you can do it.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 04 2008 05:38 GMT
#19
It took me about a month to go from 6:02 to 5:52

as long as you run regularly, you'll be able to do it soon; I ran 5 miles 3 times a week and 2 miles twice a week for about 3 months and my mile time went from 6:40 to 5:52

oh yeah, it's nice when you have a beautiful girl to run with
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
April 04 2008 05:50 GMT
#20
Run really fast?

Gl though
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
April 04 2008 06:06 GMT
#21
Have you seen the Prefontaine movie?
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