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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 05:13:02
February 05 2008 04:54 GMT
#1
I'm a terran C- player, and i'm going to say whatever that i feel see common during my mass games there.

-more than 50% of my games are tvp's
-a lot of times they go fast expo, and then try to sneak dt's in my base -_-
-other times its just a straight DT rush, or even its close like 12 and 3 on pythong i get dt dropped.
-i am seeing more terrans than zergs this season than last.
-i see zergs go 50% 9pool, the other 50% normal 12 hatch
-noticed slightly more people going lurkers than last season.
-I find its extremely unsafe to 1 rax expo, so i usually 2 rax expo now. Maybe im just nub
-There has been an increase in Terrans
-When i join/create a game and the other guy picks terran, i later pick terran too and half the time they switch to either zerg or toss.
-i've noticed A LOT of people in TvT go 2 port wraith, i really have no clue how that got so popular.

-I find people with 50% C- win ratios better than guys who are like 30-17 C-.
-I deliberatly look for people with good stats in low ranks, and then look for people with around 60% win on higher levels
-I hate how there's 1 week motw of maps of no pythong, and the next week pythong is motw again. I hate that map, its a fucking python in a thong.
-I notice less cheese/all in builds nowadays unless its on bluestorm.
-There are stronger players during the night here (usa) maybe its because its real late at europe, and only the hardcore guys stay up that late and still play.
-I realize that i'm sorta like a blob, if i stay with D players i actually lose to them 50% of the time, same with D+, and if i play C- i also win about 50% just like vs D players, i dunno why >_<. Its like i'm very unstable and can lose to almost anything unexpected .

-I get gg's a majority of the time from TvT players that lasts over 15 mins, and i think that i really won by outplaying them.
-I say gg's at end of game in TvT than any other MU's too because i feel its harder to cheese there and better games is played. (probably a bit bm of me to not say gg after i get dt rushed and if i lose, but i get pissy when toss has something that can kill me directly if im' not careful )
-A lot of times people only say gg when they want a re, i've noticed that with many zerg and toss opponents
-toss players who dt rush me and fails don't say gg either! i guess i dont blame them.

Sorry for my endless lines of rants, complaints, and generalizations just basing it off my experience don't take any personal if it offended you, sorry .


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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 04:56 GMT
#2
I've noticed that PvT is more common for me than other MUs, even though right now my breakdown seems pretty even. I detest PvT ):
Peace~
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
February 05 2008 04:59 GMT
#3
Weird, I've been playing mostly Zerg players. When I found out about that strat Zherak posted about it was weird how I kept fighting Zerg players over and over again XD!
Mango @ U.S.East!
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 05 2008 05:07 GMT
#4
I find a streak of Protoss players so PvP is a common MU for me :/
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 06:19:24
February 05 2008 05:11 GMT
#5
i think you need to stop doing the strategy that you do every game gladstone -_- you do it in TvP and TvZ and it's very predictable for the people who know you
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 05:57:33
February 05 2008 05:18 GMT
#6
Protoss is sooooooo damn common. On one my iccup accounts playing TvP TvZ and PvT:

Vs T - 14 games
Vs P - 57 games
Vs Z - 36 games

And on my new account played 10 toss games, 2 zerg and 1 terran.

I also noticed there's less cheese now, and the comment about 50% win rate people being better than expected I also found true. When one of them joined my game I would think "ez win yay" then struggle to barely edge out a win, and I would be sad that I had to fight so hard for what I thought would be an easy win.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
February 05 2008 06:00 GMT
#7
i hate pvp
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
February 05 2008 06:12 GMT
#8
I played a zvt against a pretty bad terran where I overran him with lings after he lost all his forces to my sunkens, but then he d/c'd and it counted as a draw. I was sad
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 05 2008 06:20 GMT
#9
On February 05 2008 15:12 blagoonga123 wrote:
I played a zvt against a pretty bad terran where I overran him with lings after he lost all his forces to my sunkens, but then he d/c'd and it counted as a draw. I was sad

It always gives an auto win to the person who was not disconnected, even if it was a draw, the d/cer gets points back but you keep points... so you must have played that many seasons ago?
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blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
February 05 2008 06:22 GMT
#10
it happened today. Maybe it was me who d/c'd?

All i know is that it didn't affect my score at all.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
February 05 2008 06:35 GMT
#11
On February 05 2008 15:22 blagoonga123 wrote:
it happened today. Maybe it was me who d/c'd?

All i know is that it didn't affect my score at all.


That's disc hack. Go to the complaints forum, post your rep (rapidshare only), your names and ranks, a bit of an explanation, and they'll give you the points within about a day. Trust me it's worth it to catch out these guys ^_^
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
February 05 2008 07:16 GMT
#12
On February 05 2008 13:54 YanGpaN wrote:

I realize that i'm sorta like a blob, if i stay with D players i actually lose to them 50% of the time, same with D+, and if i play C- i also win about 50% just like vs D players, i dunno why >_<. Its like i'm very unstable and can lose to almost anything unexpected .

This is 100% like me.
김택용 Fighting!
HonkHonkBeep
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
China353 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 07:32:39
February 05 2008 07:30 GMT
#13
It's harder at night cause more Asians are getting on, lol, not cause of the hardcore latenight Europeans :D

My matchup stats are about 40 TvZ, 20 TvT, and 100 TvP
God is cruel; sometimes he makes us live.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
February 05 2008 08:27 GMT
#14
I got 5pooled yesterday. I was like "WTF I didn't think people actually did those." Probably a result of the recent Luxury > Bisu.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 05 2008 08:48 GMT
#15
I played a Zerg. After he harassed me with muta I went a straight push with 5 rax into his sunkens and 8 lurkers.. (pretty bad decision.. bleh) I got raped.
Then he said "u noob? thanks for force"

I just said "bring it" .. went out with 10 tanks and 40 marines and raped the living shit out of him. Then he fucked up with "fuck you newb fuck you fuck you" and lamed 20 minutes with buildings hatches and extractors everywhere..

NO MANNER.
In the end he disced
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Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
February 05 2008 13:54 GMT
#16
Yeah, no manners is definately a trend. Whining when losing, gloating when winning, no gg when losing, gg first when winning, and endless "lol?" and "lol" comments. Ugh. There really should be an in-game squelch.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:16 GMT
#17
On February 05 2008 15:00 EpiK wrote:
i hate pvp

I hate it too but it's my most successful MU, 100% -_-

And I take pride in my PvZ, but I am like 60% there.

I think it's because there are more noobish Protosses.
Peace~
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
February 05 2008 15:28 GMT
#18
Protoss is the quickest race to get results with, that's why it's so common. I don't know why everyone's acting like this is such a shocking revelation. I told this to ILoveZil and he was seemingly offended, but why else do you explain >50% of people playing Protoss? They are the easiest low-level race.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:29 GMT
#19
On February 06 2008 00:28 Chill wrote:
Protoss is the quickest race to get results with, that's why it's so common. I don't know why everyone's acting like this is such a shocking revelation. I told this to ILoveZil and he was seemingly offended, but why else do you explain >50% of people playing Protoss? They are the easiest low-level race.

T_T

I would be offended a little too, because that makes it seem that any progress I make in Protoss skill is due to the fact that it's "easy" and overpowered. But I'm pretty shitty so I can't argue really.
Peace~
HunterGatherer
Profile Joined September 2007
118 Posts
February 05 2008 16:22 GMT
#20
I mostly say gg, its a habit. Only when that habit gets interupted by me playing stupid i leave the game.
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