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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
January 29 2008 16:14 GMT
#1
Well, I didn't know I could go through with it, but I played about 100 ladder games within one week on Iccup. I'm going to take a breather here to write down a few things I've learned for those who are interested.

First of all, I found that ladder play is most effective when accomplished in series, meaning ideally at least 10 games per day. This way, I reinforce what I'm learning since I'm constantly gaming, so timing and build orders stick to me a lot more concisely. Thus, for those who are using Iccup for the sole purpose of training to get better, I'd say dedicate at the very least about 7 games or 3-4 hours a day.

The next thing that I found important was paying particular attention to the games I lost or had immense trouble with. Watching your own replays here are a great way to learn; however, there's a right and a wrong way to watch replays. To expand, I'll list some things I've kept in check while repping.

-Watching replays within 24 hours helped me most since I could remember what had happened.

-I focused mainly on what my opponent did since I already know the builds and strategies I've used in that game.

*-Watch additional replays by better players to analyze which builds are best for that particular map/matchup and why.

*There is a HUGE difference in learning when you're casually downloading replays to get better and when you're actually applying what you know from mass games while watching downloaded replays.

So far, this is what I've been doing, and it's been working pretty well. The biggest benefactor to mass gaming is that literally EVERY supplementary material you use, such as strategy guides and dl'ed replays become SO much clearer. So basically, in the end, it's going to end up the same way as with everything else - you practice or you don't get better.

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
January 29 2008 16:24 GMT
#2
that's a lottttt of fuckin games dude!

at least youre improving
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 29 2008 16:36 GMT
#3
*-Watch additional replays by better players to analyze which builds are best for that particular map/matchup and why.


For sure! That's usually my first step actually. More than once, I've gone to TLPD to look up a particular map and matchup, then I open 10 tabs of youtube videos and skim through each one to get an idea of what the pros are doing. Then I base my game off of that. When I lose, I can look at the rep and see why my gameplan (that I copied from the pros) failed and fix it.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 30 2008 03:38 GMT
#4
You know I JUST read this and then I played iCCup and went 2-0 today. Thanks zil
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
January 30 2008 03:39 GMT
#5
Wow thanks im gonna try applying this when i mass game on iccup. Hope to get d+ this season. Just started getting serious into sc hehe
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