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ZZang, I wouldn't say Psyopus, Ion Disonance, or Beneathe the Massacre are up there with my favorites (though I do like them). I think they all have really good points, but I also think your comments are valid (particularly about the lack of soul - Beneathe The Massacre's first record had a lot more, but their first full length was soul-less.) I think that these bands might be more along the lines of what the OP might appreciate. Not sure...
My kinda stuff is more like Gorguts or Portal.
I'm curious what anyone thinks of Negativa (with Luc Lemay and Steeve Hurdle from Gorguts). The stuff I heard so far is good, but not Obscura good. What trips me out is that apparently they have added a female vocalist and are going in a more ambient direction. I have no idea what this might be like, but I'm kind of excited for it.
Also, Cryptopsy has gone and added a keyboardist, and when they were searching for vocalists (after Lord Worm left - or was kicked out) they specified that they wanted someone that could SING as well as growl... Hmm...
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haha. Negativa is decent. It just sounds like left overs from Obscura. The stuff that wasn't good enough. I'm really excited though.
and the news about Cryptopsy has me excited too, because although I liked Lord Worm, it was only for one cd, and anywher eelse he tried to "sing" he sucked. ^_^
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On January 02 2008 08:45 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
o..o he doesnt like atreyu because they're mainstream. noob cake did you ever listen to tower of rome? -__-;;;
I love this quote. People not liking music because its mainstream is not true. Theres the "few" scene kids everywhere who do that, but the majority of people who dislike Atreyu are like that simply because they are terrible. They have nothing going for them musically.
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Anyways.
Add G_Prime_Death@Hotmail.com to MSN if you want to discuss anything about this. I can help out with alot if your looking for bands, or just want to discuss music.
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Zzang, agreed about Negativa sounding like Obscura left-overs. The music also has a less deathy sound, more like just avant-metal than avant death metal. The thing is, it sounds like the stuff on the mini-CD is 6 year old material by Steeve only. The new stuff is by the entire band, and with this female singer... who knows what will result.
Cryptopsy is freaking me out with their possible change in direction. Having been so intense before, I'm worried that a vocalist who actually sings might ruin things.... and what's with the keyboards? Still, I'll buy it.
Lord Worm wasn't sounding as fierce on that last record, but his high pitched screams were still awesome. None So Vile seemed flat to me, perhaps mostly because of the production, but somehow I don't think so.
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well there is a lot of people that dont like main stream music just for the fact that they turn into what the record label wants them to be... and shit like that ;p
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look at metallica
all i'm saying ;/
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The majority of mainstream music is disliked simply because it is simplistic. There's nothing there but what you hear. I enjoy music where you have to dig a bit to get the wider scope of things.
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Beneath The Sky
Sonic Syndicate(meh)
All That Remains
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On January 01 2008 22:38 Dknight wrote:
I'm looking for some grindcore/hardcore/death metal bands. Preferably from the US/Canadian that are still in existence as I like to see the bands I listen to live. I know there are plenty of sites out there that have reviews but I'd rather hear from others on here that have similar taste. As I work night crew, this leaves me with about 7 hours to listen to my library each night basically on repeat.
Current bands I'm into...
As Blood Runs Black
August Burns Red
Black Dahlia Murder
Children of Bodom
Darkest Hour
Devil Wears Prada
Dropkick Murphys
From A Second Story Window
Genghis Tron
HeavyHeavyLowLow
Number 12 Looks Like You
On Broken Wings
Red Chord
Thanks ^^
Nice, you have kind of the same taste in music as me
Anyways, here comes a list from me:
Dark Tranquility (Sweden)
Agnostic Front (US)
Madball (US)
Impaled Nazarene (FIN)
Sick of it all (US)
All that remains (US)
In Flames (Sweden)
Amorphis/Finntroll/Ensiferum/Moonsorrow (Finnish pride!)
Bane (US)
Champion (US)
Bleeding through (US)
Blood for Blood (US)
Death before dishonor (US)
Cro-Mags (US)
Earth Crisis (US)
Evergreen Terrace (US)
Everytime I die (US)
First Blood (US)
Hatebreed (US)
Heaven shall burn (US)
His hero is gone (US)
Lamb of god (US)
Machine head (US)
Mastodon (US)
Morbid Angel (US)
NJ Bloodline (US)
Shadows fall (US)
Sworn enemy (US)
The fall of troy (US)
Unearth (US)
All of these are bands I like! Enjoy
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ZZang, one thing that gets me about a lot of the newer music kids are into these days is that the vocals don't match the music, or vice versa. IE, Atreyu are a decent band, and they play some pretty music (I don't like it, but...), but then the vocalist is screaming on top of it. So you have the basis of a nice pop song, and the singer is screaming as if it is the end of the world. It makes no sense to me. Or you'll have heavy music and pretty/melodic vocals.
Of course it all comes down to taste - there is nothing inherently wrong with these qualities, but it kind of rubs me wrong. I think if you want to get into extreme music, you might as well go all the way - I don't need anyone watering it down for me to get it. I want balls to the wall insanity. If I want something "listenable," I'll listen to STP or the Beatles or something (which are much better than Atreyu, IMHO.)
I've always been into finding the heaviest metal I could. Unfortunately, if you follow most music publications and whatnot, what you'll get into is weak stuff like Killswitch Engage. I was happy when I FINALLY discovered Death Metal - finally, people whole heartedly embracing a harsh aesthetic.
And your comment is dead on: it is nice to have to dig a bit to realize the beauty of something. Art is not just some kind of consumer merchandise - it should be challenging and mind expanding.
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i take it you don't like melodic death metal
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Well, as I've only really heard Reroute to Remain, by In Flames, I can't say one way or the other whether I like melodic death, but just going by the name of the genre, I doubt it is for me. If I want emphasis on melody, I won't turn to metal for it! If what I've heard of In Flames is any indication of what melodic death is, then I definitely despise the genre, and can't understand why it is even called death metal.
I couldn't get into Demilich. The riffing seemed too... conventional and melodic, or something (not very heavy). And the voice seemed kind of absurd - like contrived gross talking. While it's been awhile since I've heard them, I remember thinking that the label of "technical" was wrongly applied, also.
Granted, part of the "problem" for me is that maybe they are just too old. I don't like most death metal pre-1998 or so.
Far as European metal goes, I like Meshuggah a bit (particularly "I" and "Chaosphere"), and Spawn of Possession (though the vocals on Cabinet get way annoying.)
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haha, yeah. in flames. they're one of the few bands that i can say i still like after they started sucking (after 2002'ish). i won't even listen to their stuff after that so i don't ruin my opinion of them, i'm the kind of elitist prick that would stop listening to them based on how much they suck now, no matter how good they were. and seeing those nu metal kids wearing their shirts from time to time doesn't help.
anyways, anything before 2002 (funny that reroute to remain came out in 2002, when they started sucking) by them is groundbreaking in terms of melodic death metal. i'd recommend listening to Lunar Strain and Subterranean first if you intend on listening to anything though. in flames is defined as one of they key defining bands of the melodic death metal genre, and those two albums really show it. that said, you have to keep in mind this was 1994, and they'd been doing it unrecorded for like 5 years prior.
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What about In Flames' style changed on Reroute To REmain? I hear that the album represented a shift for them, but I don't know how. Is it not considered melodic death metal? If it is, I really don't see how it can be called death metal, as all the characteristics I identify with death metal (low tuned guitars, double bass drums, death growls) are not present. I ask out of genuine curiosity, because I really don't know what melodic death metal means. If I were on cable, I would try to download some music, but I am on dialup (yes yes, I know, I know....)
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In Flames used to be Melodic Death Metal, pre-Reroute To Remain. Afterwards, it got more mainstream.
The funny thing is, Melodic Death Metal isn't really Death Metal. It only takes the vocals. The majority of it is thrash metal mixed with NWOBHM.
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Inky, I don't think you would appreciate it if people deviate from the topic. Lets just suggest some hardcore/grind/metal bands from the US. Or, as you told someone else in one of your blogs, you can get out. ^^
I don't care about the European music scene. Nearly all of the music I listen to now is by American/Canadian bands that tour as one of my passions is going to shows to see the music I love. Call it stupid or whatever you want but its what I enjoy and how I feel.
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I did suggest some bands, and all the people I am talking to suggested bands as well. Every person that has joined this discussion (as far as I can recall) has suggested some music for you. From there, the discussion has deviated. This happens in my threads and most threads. The alternative is for your thread to die. We've kept it alive for you, and this has undoubtedly generated more suggestions for you.
Again, for you, I suggest (and these bands are active and based in the Americas) Beneathe The Massacre, Psyopus, and Ion Disonance. More deathy stuff would be Suffocation, Cryptopsy, and Dying Fetus.
Edit: Sorry, this is the result of me posting after I woke up at 6:50 am (an ungodly hour.) You are right. I don't mean to be disrespectful - I won't post here anymore.
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On January 03 2008 06:42 nA.Inky wrote:
Well, as I've only really heard Reroute to Remain, by In Flames, I can't say one way or the other whether I like melodic death, but just going by the name of the genre, I doubt it is for me. If I want emphasis on melody, I won't turn to metal for it! If what I've heard of In Flames is any indication of what melodic death is, then I definitely despise the genre, and can't understand why it is even called death metal.
I couldn't get into Demilich. The riffing seemed too... conventional and melodic, or something (not very heavy). And the voice seemed kind of absurd - like contrived gross talking. While it's been awhile since I've heard them, I remember thinking that the label of "technical" was wrongly applied, also.
Granted, part of the "problem" for me is that maybe they are just too old. I don't like most death metal pre-1998 or so.
Far as European metal goes, I like Meshuggah a bit (particularly "I" and "Chaosphere"), and Spawn of Possession (though the vocals on Cabinet get way annoying.)
lol, Sweden owns metal hands down
Meshuggah, In Flames and Spawn of Possession are all swedish...
I live in the same town as Spawn of Possession and it's not a big town
Dknight, check out my list a little bit above, I think there may be alot of bands you would like.
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