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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24665 Posts
December 28 2007 03:43 GMT
#1
Dattebayo has just released a news post + Show Spoiler +
DB Halting Fansubbing Production Indefinitely, Effective Immediately
2007/12/27

Dear leechers,

We have warned everyone repeatedly on the issue of streaming our subs.

We sincerely appreciate everyone's efforts to spread the Naruto/Bleach love, but were growing increasingly frustrated, not to mention worried, over our repeatedly ignored requests not to upload our material to Veoh, Youtube and other streaming sites.

Perhaps you guys aren't aware, but the flagrant disregard for our requests puts us in an increasingly vulnerable position as a fansubbing group. We don't want to be shut down (which is something we are in constant threat of) and if our rules are not honored, we may well be.

Therefore we once again make this request:

Please do NOT upload any of our released episodes to streaming sites.
Since it's hard to get people to comply just by writing in these news, we need to get your attention. So effective immediately, we are forced to stop releasing our subtitled episodes for ALL our current projects until the request is met, full stop. This includes Naruto, Bleach, Pitagora Switch and Pokemon.

We regret that we have to take such a drastic stance, but our requests have gone ignored for years. There's not much more we can do to protect ourselves and to continue bringing these episodes to fans, but we believe that taking these precautions now will keep us operational for the long run. And we hope to keep bringing these episodes to English-speaking fans for a long time. Please help us by abiding by our rules.

Here’s the issue: Dattebayo translates and subtitles anime, and released the episodes for public download on our website. Lots of well-meaning fans then take these Dattebayo episodes, re-encode / cut them into parts and upload them onto streaming sites like Youtube or Veoh. THIS IS BAD. The reason is not because Dattebayo is stupid or annoying or mean.

It's disrespectful to the subbers’ wishes, but more importantly,
Fansubbing is not legal, and with the popularity of Naruto/Bleach growing, legitimate companies have licensed them for DVD releases outside of Japan.
That makes fansubbers a target - although Dattebayo makes no money, legally the companies have all the right to shut us down. Because Dattebayo is a prominent fansubbing group, it's at constant risk and legal threat. When you put videos on Veoh/Youtube, that exposes the group and makes it a big target.

To this end, Dattebayo has politely and repeatedly asked uploaders on many streaming sites to STOP UPLOADING our files. Many people assume that the uploaders have Dattebayo's permission, but that's not true. The uploaders have basically ignored all polite requests to stop. With recent changes to Youtube "copyright enforcement" policy, it's nearly impossible to get Dattebayo material removed once it's been uploaded, therefore leaving our work in horrible quality for everyone to view.

Which is why Dattebayo has decided that we will put a hold on all our subtitled episode releases until the uploaders comply. We've been way too nice so far by letting this issue slide, but this is the end. Here's our (repeated) request to everyone who butchers our work by uploading it to streaming sites. STOP. If you're an uploader, please DO NOT UPLOAD DATTEBAYO SUBS to any more streaming sites. If you're guilty of doing this in the past, and your streaming site account is still valid, GO AND DELETE ALL THE DATTEBAYO VIDEOS WHICH BELONG TO YOUR ACCOUNT. We NEVER gave ANYONE permission to upload our work to ANY STREAMING SITE. If you're not an uploader and want to help, flag our work you find on streaming sites as copyright infringement, send private message to uploader asking to remove content, etc. This is probably futile due to immense amount of idiots who are unable to read yet are able to figure out how to click "upload" button, but it doesn't hurt to try.

It might be annoying to have to figure out how to watch anime without Youtube or Veoh, but trust me, it's really not that hard. And some fans complain, "I don't know how to do it! It’s too hard! I need Veoh!" Well, if we fansubbers can figure out how to download Naruto, translate it, time it, edit it, encode it, release it - surely you can learn how to watch it. Or you can always (and should) buy the DVDs when they're released officially.

Dattebayo is providing a SERVICE - a free, fast, reliable service. Fansubbers would like to keep providing the service, so we hope everyone can understand why this decision has been made. Dattebayo's wish is NOT to shut down anime-sharing - it’s to keep it alive for the long run. Please help by considering the bigger picture.

Without streaming sites, anime-watching may become less convenient, that is unfortunately true. But it's better than shutting down fansubbing entirely - because then you'll have no anime at all.

Dattebayo Fansubs, LLC. Taking internet seriously for the last 3.22 years
claiming that their attempts to prevent people from uploading their videos to youtube/etc have been ignored. As pointed out above, when their files of a sleezy nature are placed on youtube, it gives their group unneeded attention in the professional world.

So here's the irony... this move is trying to help their less than smart fans realize they should stop uploading the files. What it doesn't take into account for is the thousands of people they've pissed off with ridiculous banning rules, unecessary trolling, etc. Right now all an ex-fan has to do is upload new releases to youtube and the group has to stop releasing fansubs. I'm personally not an opponent of dattebayo, so I'm wondering where this will go.

*****
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
December 28 2007 03:53 GMT
#2
The solution as I see it is to learn Japanese.
bg
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
December 28 2007 03:58 GMT
#3
wow, that sucks But they are doing what they have to do so you can't blame them.

Good thing I can understand alot of it anyway, and this might force me to buckle down and practice my japanese now that I'm not in school;/
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 28 2007 04:02 GMT
#4
huahahahahahaa I am doubly unaffected by this news!
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 28 2007 04:06 GMT
#5
On December 28 2007 13:02 thedeadhaji wrote:
huahahahahahaa I am doubly unaffected by this news!


coming from a japanese speaker

damn you

lol but then again, i don't watch Naruto
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
December 28 2007 04:11 GMT
#6
On December 28 2007 13:02 thedeadhaji wrote:
huahahahahahaa I am doubly unaffected by this news!

screw you haji ㅠ.ㅠ
anyway
this sucks... the dead torrents usually end up -> utube or veoh for viewers
damn
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
December 28 2007 04:55 GMT
#7
I don't like Dattebayo members because they're idiots and I stopped watching their subs after the joke they made about Virginia Tech. For Bleach I just watch Flomp-Rumbel's.
Shymon
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States620 Posts
December 28 2007 05:07 GMT
#8
this will end like all other dattebayo threats.....YHBT
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 28 2007 07:14 GMT
#9
pfft naruto and bleach
posting on liquid sites in current year
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
December 28 2007 07:44 GMT
#10
lol shitty anime.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
December 28 2007 07:51 GMT
#11
When I saw the title Anime Crisis, I thought you were going to refer to good anime. Ho ho ho
~o~ I have returned
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24665 Posts
December 28 2007 08:06 GMT
#12
On December 28 2007 14:07 Shymon wrote:
this will end like all other dattebayo threats.....YHBT
That's the funny part. This isn't a troll, yet most people can't tell due to how often they do crap like that.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 28 2007 13:57 GMT
#13
If they shut down dattebayo I think other fansub groups will take the subing of Naruto, Bleach, Pokemon, etc. because they are very popular - they won't stop fansubing those animes for sure .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
December 28 2007 16:33 GMT
#14
I assumed it was a troll because Naruto wasn't set to air this week and they subbed Bleach the night they were suppossed to. I hope they keep going.
Nak Allstar.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 28 2007 17:54 GMT
#15
Fucking fuckers.
Peace~
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24665 Posts
December 28 2007 17:55 GMT
#16
On December 29 2007 01:33 MiniRoman wrote:
I assumed it was a troll because Naruto wasn't set to air this week and they subbed Bleach the night they were suppossed to. I hope they keep going.
Haha yeah it fits the pattern... except that they actually have been repeadedly asking people to take their files off of youtube/etc.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
December 28 2007 18:11 GMT
#17
good thing I only read the manga
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 28 2007 19:17 GMT
#18
its a troll/bluff 100%. "unneeded attention" please. every company who knows anything about anime knows who they are. they DO want people to stop that cuz it looks like crap etc. but they WONT stop. its 100% a bluff at the perfect time. holiday seasons stuff is put on hold so they wont release anything for a few weeks.

EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE (which its not) then another less known fansub group would pick up the shows =immediately= as it would boost their popularity from 0 to 100 in about 1 release.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 21:27:21
December 28 2007 21:26 GMT
#19
On December 29 2007 04:17 Artosis3 wrote:
its a troll/bluff 100%. "unneeded attention" please. every company who knows anything about anime knows who they are. they DO want people to stop that cuz it looks like crap etc. but they WONT stop. its 100% a bluff at the perfect time. holiday seasons stuff is put on hold so they wont release anything for a few weeks.

EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE (which its not) then another less known fansub group would pick up the shows =immediately= as it would boost their popularity from 0 to 100 in about 1 release.
They actually want people to stop doing it, they aren't making that shit up at all. Whether or not they are actually going to stop releasing is open to debate, but we'll know in two weeks. Also, not all fansub groups do it for the popularity, although I dare say some do.

So it might be a bluff, but it's not a troll.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 29 2007 07:06 GMT
#20
They are fucking stupid.

They think they are the only fansub that can do Nartuo/Bleach.

If they stop for 2-3 episodes, some other group will pick up and they'll die.

Besides, Chinese Naruto FTW, they are usually released 3-5 hours after the release!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
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