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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
December 12 2023 06:38 GMT
#1
I know this isn't as active of a community as it used to be but some might still find this interesting

Last summer I was watching SGDQ (a very popular speedrunning marathon for charity) and decided I wanted to dive into a game myself in my free time. After pondering for a while, I figured what better game than the game I spent a lot of my youth playing? I picked up the Brood War Terran campaign and learned each level and was able to get the world record for each individual level as well as the overall campaign after a lot of practice. I ended up submitting the run to ESA, which is Europe's version of GDQ, and traveled to Sweden to do a run of the campaign this past February with a couple of friends doing commentary for me. As a high schooler I always dreamed of playing StarCraft in front of a crowd. This isn't quite what I envisioned but I enjoyed it a lot nonetheless



Since then I decided to go for some of the vanilla campaigns, which are a lot more competitive. It took a lot of practice but I was able to snag both the Terran and Zerg campaign WR's. The Zerg campaign is very likely to get taken soon as some optimizations have been made by others, but the Terran one is one that I'm really proud of as missions 5-10 are all surprisingly tricky and both 8 and 9 require a lot of multitask to get consistently good times on:



Since I got into it, a lot of things have changed. Traditionally there's only been one category for StarCraft - any%. This is the basic category that any game has and just means you beat the game as fast as you can. The problem with StarCraft is that, as a lot of us remember, the old patches have glitches that can't be used in the latest patches. For example, sliding a CC right next to the minerals or floating a Drone can let you complete missions really quickly. This means that the only way to get really fast times is to downpatch your SC and use these glitches.

However, recently, the community agreed to add a new category - "Any% All Glitches & Patches" (also now being referred to as AGaP"). Any% now only counts runs that are utilizing a patch that does not have broken glitches or balance changes (150 mineral Spawning Pools tend to make for faster runs). AGaP still allows all patches to compete against each other.

This change has sparked a lot of interest in optimizing levels on the newer patches and finding new tricks to beat them fast, which has found some awesome strategies. Honestly because there was no reason to try to compete with the old patches before, a lot of new strats are being discovered now. Some of the current active runners include Thadortin, Kesanka, and 7thAce, all of whom are quite creative. For example, Kesanka found that Z08 (Eye for an Eye), the level where you have to kill two Protoss Nexii, can be cleared really fast by using the timer to determine when Observers will spawn and storming them right away and using a cloaked Kerrigan to clear the first base:



Thadortin found that a glitch can be used in Z05 (The Amerigo) that clips Kerrigan through a cliff to skip most of the level:



Thadortin also found on BWZ08 (To Slay the Beast) that by abusing a timed attack that the AI does, you can slip in some DT's, block the ramp with a few of them, and hit the Overmind while there's no detection nearby. This is currently the WR but was mostly done as a test and will be optimized at some point but really goes to show how much is going on in the community right now



On top of all of this, what's really exciting is that 7thAce, who currently holds the WR for the Brood War Zerg campaign, got his run accepted into AGDQ 2023! Brood War was last in this event in 2019 as a bonus run, so to see it get in is great news, especially during this time where so much is happening in the community. The Brood War Zerg campaign is very macro heavy as most levels revolve around killing all the opponents' buildings on the map, but there's a fair amount of tricks involved too. The event averages tens of thousands of viewers and spikes at over 100,000 so this will get a lot of eyes on the game which is going to be awesome.

If you're like me and don't really feel like playing ladder anymore but still love the feeling of playing fast and moving all around the keyboard, now is a great time to get into it. It's nearly impossible to match the feeling of playing clan wars and tournaments in StarCraft, and I'm not going to lie and say that speedrunning can match that vibe, but getting deep into a run on a good time is quite the thrill in itself. speedrun.com is the main resource for speedrunning for nearly all games and you can find each games' page here:

StarCraft: https://www.speedrun.com/sc1
Brood War: https://www.speedrun.com/scbw

You can also join the RTS speedrunning Discord which is where most discussions take place for SC speedrunning: https://discord.com/invite/dy3GRjw

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BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
December 12 2023 11:45 GMT
#2
Respect
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
December 12 2023 15:20 GMT
#3
Looks really interesting, will definitely check it out when I have some spare time.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51536 Posts
December 12 2023 21:54 GMT
#4
shoutouts to freezard who i think was the first guy from TL to submit runs to SDA
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
December 13 2023 00:28 GMT
#5
Brood War's made it to GDQ's? That's really cool. I'll have to go watch that.
The original Bogus fan.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 03:07:06
December 13 2023 03:05 GMT
#6
On December 13 2023 09:28 Turbovolver wrote:
Brood War's made it to GDQ's? That's really cool. I'll have to go watch that.


It's a really big deal! I know SC2 got some runs in when GDQ was pretty fresh, but not many RTS games get accepted anymore. On top of that, BW Zerg a long campaign (his estimate is an hour and 35 minutes) which is nice for showing off the game but makes it even harder to be accepted into a marathon. One thing that I wasn't expecting at ESA was that after I did my run, I had several people come up to me and talk about how StarCraft was one of their favorite games growing up, how they loved playing UMS maps as a kid, how they took hours to beat each level of the campaigns, etc. I kinda forgot over time how big of a deal this game was to casual players who grew up with it so honestly it's a great game to have at marathons when trying to invoke nostalgia.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
December 13 2023 16:58 GMT
#7
On December 13 2023 09:28 Turbovolver wrote:
Brood War's made it to GDQ's? That's really cool. I'll have to go watch that.

Exactly the same for me. Really cool, thank you and well done, keep it up!!
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1014 Posts
December 14 2023 11:40 GMT
#8
Good to see SC speedrunning back on the big stage again! I haven't been following the scene much lately so it will be fun to watch the run.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
December 17 2023 14:54 GMT
#9
This is super cool!

For anyone looking for scheduling info for GDQ 2024, it's here

https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule/46

Though the BW time slot is difficult

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
December 18 2023 07:09 GMT
#10
On December 17 2023 23:54 Armathai wrote:
This is super cool!

For anyone looking for scheduling info for GDQ 2024, it's here

https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule/46

Though the BW time slot is difficult



Yeah, it's unfortunately a little early for most Europeans but hopefully not too late for most in North America to watch live. Of course with GDQ there's going to be random delays so hopefully the schedule doesn't get pushed back too much that early in the marathon. I believe they will also have a donation incentive to do the bonus mission and it would be cool to see that get met!
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