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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
October 08 2007 16:44 GMT
#21
I don't think he should have won in principle, but on that particular game, I think he should have probably gotten a win somehow based on the beginning of the game.
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strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-08 18:35:14
October 08 2007 18:35 GMT
#22
On October 08 2007 15:06 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
i honestly beleive you should of won, i mean you took down sAviOr... and you couldn't win a PvP vs Stork?


*savior fanboy detected*
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-08 21:27:47
October 08 2007 21:26 GMT
#23
On October 09 2007 00:26 Chill wrote:
You are dumb.

One player beating someone in a best of 3 says nothing about the result of a series with a completely different person playing a completely different matchup. Why you think there's any correlation, I don't know.

Stork made one mistake the whole series, and it was running his Zealots into PJ's army instead of retreating on Peaks. Other than this he played flawlessly. PJ played incredible well also, and didn't make many mistakes either. It was a small advantage leveraged to a win in both games.

You don't even list any arguments about why he should have won, except "ololo savior is monster zvp and pj won".

Chill, you are dumb.

The fact that they are both progamers, i think that would be a correlation of some sort. And sAviOr is one of the best ZvP players around, i think it's pretty safe to say that. He lost to Pj, that was surprising as hell, i wasn't exspecting it. Here, now try to follow my logic here, i can understand how it can be confusing. Pj's weakest is PvZ, he beat one of the best ZvP players. I took the assumption that it was probably largely due to the inexperience the progamers have on the maps. I read that the progamers didn't have time to practice the maps, so basically they relied on there superior macro and micro skills to carry them throughout the stages. In later stages the better players would have advanced, obviously. Meaning better micro better macro and these players would have known the maps aswel. I guess i am making a lot of assumptions here, but i think it says something, if not a lot, definitly not nothing.

and nice quote of me, i also said the map advantage, but i guess it's simple to miss my main point in that, mentioning sAviOr was simply to show that the map differences might of ment more then i originally perceived.



@Micronesia, i admit i was lazy as hell with the poll, i didn't feel like adding more options.

@strongwind, yes i like sAviOr, he gave me ZvT hope ^^ Fanboy? yes and proud


<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
October 09 2007 02:28 GMT
#24
If we take into account that sAviOr is also a progamer and Pj beat sAviOr, but StOrk beat Pj, that means that StOrk can beat sAviOr.

;O
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 09 2007 06:17 GMT
#25
Well... The strat Stork used against Pj will only work on some player who's skill is inferior.
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geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 09 2007 06:43 GMT
#26
i don't think it's that suprising. like he said in the interview, pj maybe had a 20-30% chance of beating savior and he managed to pull that off. he also probably had roughly the same chance of beating stork, but wasn't able to pull it off.

thinking that because pj beat savior in a bo3 meant that pj was a monster player that would soon be taking down top kespa players is a huge fallacy.

the sample size (3 games) is very small which means upsets aren't that unlikely.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 10 2007 12:33 GMT
#27
geometry, once again you assume, all my conclusions were based of fthe evidence, i suspected sAviOr to rape him and win WCG, it was Pj's worst match up, then he beat sAviOr and played Stork in his best match up, maybe it was storks too, but even so, i viewed his cahnces as beating Stork higher then beating sAviOr, and he beat sAviOr and lost to stork, which was surpising, i never once stated i thougth he was going to go on Bo3 tears vs kespa's top 25 and rape them all and make them look like they bought the game yesterday. Nor did i ever imply that.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 10 2007 13:22 GMT
#28
On October 09 2007 11:28 Scorpion wrote:
If we take into account that sAviOr is also a progamer and Pj beat sAviOr, but StOrk beat Pj, that means that StOrk can beat sAviOr.

;O


You'd be awesome at rock paper scissors. Going by your logic:

paper>rock, so paper > scissors ?

Fail, conclusion: Everyone has their bad days and weak points, not to mention pj training heavily for this while savior also has 2 starleague's to think about.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
October 10 2007 15:22 GMT
#29
Pj got the worst position on PA against Stork and then played on a proleague map. Wasn't surprising that he lost the finals on those maps.

Awesome from him that he managed to beat saviOr though.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 12 2007 01:47 GMT
#30
yeah i guess i can settle for being happy with only 1 korean medal now, even if it is the gold, congratulations Pj for most likely WCG's biggest upset, even bigger then that whole FroZ-BoxeR thing.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
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