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Pj how could you fuck it up? It was your time to shine, finally a korean wouldn't win the damn WCG, you were practicing weeks and weeks for this event, and you blew it at the finals, i honestly beleive you should of won, i mean you took down sAviOr... and you couldn't win a PvP vs Stork? Yes, Stork is amazing, i'm not doubting that, no one could. But PvP is very build order heavy, and i would say map knowledge is very important on it, that's why savior lost his ZvP vs Pj, but i was honeslty exspecting, after that display, for Pj to take it all.
The only thing standing in his way was a Protoss mirror match up, vs someone who didn't practice or know the maps, but Pj let me down, i honestly viewed it as a toss up, only for him to lose. Oh well, i guess i should be happy enough that he beat sAviOr, someone stork was afraid of becuase of his godly ZvP, only to lose to storks PvP on unknown maps. I guess i'm kind of just disappointed, but did anyone else view his chances of winning as high?
   
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Poll: Should Pj have won? (Vote): Yes, he practiced the maps, which gave him a distinct advantage/Leveled the feild. (Vote): No, stork is a progamer, the maps and practicing were irrelivent, micro and macro were too superior. (Vote):
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
lolwut
you'd do fine in sales
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Seriously? no. Stork has an 66% wins record in the korean leagues in PvP. Even though he didn't know the maps to perfection he knew his PvP. Pj has been playing good yes, but Stork has been playing like korean-good, which always will be a little better.
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of course not, lol I mean Stork is a beast, he may have the best pvp in the world and Pj never had a chance (except in the 2nd game when he forgot his obs)... I didnt expected pj to win but to do and I think he did
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I guess seeing that he beat sAviOr gave me hope, and made me think that the map differences made a lot of difference, because i was under the impression that maps and stuff like that made more of a difference in PvP, then it did in PvZ, and that it may have been enough to let Pj pull it off, plus PvZ was Pj's weakest.
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and don't forget, Pj was also a progamer at one point, obviously not top teir progamer, but he was a progamer.
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United States24614 Posts
On October 08 2007 15:10 oneofthem wrote: lolwut
you'd do fine in sales Haha I was thinking more or less the same thing. Although the obvious spelling errors don't help...
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Pj beating savior was nice and all(and unexpected) but in reality him losing to Stork was going to happen no matter what. It would have been great to see him win against Stork but the fact that he lost isn't all that big of a dissapointment.
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CA10824 Posts
On October 08 2007 15:06 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote: Pj how could you fuck it up? It was your time to shine, finally a korean wouldn't win the damn WCG, you were practicing weeks and weeks for this event, and you blew it at the finals, i honestly beleive you should of won, i mean you took down sAviOr... and you couldn't win a PvP vs Stork? Yes, Stork is amazing, i'm not doubting that, no one could. But PvP is very build order heavy, and i would say map knowledge is very important on it, that's why savior lost his ZvP vs Pj, but i was honeslty exspecting, after that display, for Pj to take it all.
The only thing standing in his way was a Protoss mirror match up, vs someone who didn't practice or know the maps, but Pj let me down, i honestly viewed it as a toss up, only for him to lose. Oh well, i guess i should be happy enough that he beat sAviOr, someone stork was afraid of becuase of his godly ZvP, only to lose to storks PvP on unknown maps. I guess i'm kind of just disappointed, but did anyone else view his chances of winning as high? i c wat u did thar
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You're disappointed in PJ for losing to #1 Kespa? I think PJ shined when he beat Savior in the second game on pa. He was a emitting a blinding light when he beat savior on gaia, with perfect micro/macro... I really don't see how you can talk shit about someone who beat the maestro.
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No... Pj could not have won. The skill and timing differences in the two games are apparent.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Game 1:
Pj did a nice build order, then the map killed him with Stork arriving at perfect timing and having 1 more goon than he had to have with normal minlines.
Game 2:
Pj fucked up his build, enough said and lost even after having a definite advantage.
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stork is better, bottom line. his experience and practice conditions outdo pj's by far plus his overall skill in all aspects of starcraft is much higher than pj's. nevertheless pj did a good job in this year wcg gf, losing to stork is nothing to be ashamed of.
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of course stork was a huge favourite, but i do think that this year was the final where a non-korean had the best chance of an upset.
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I don't see the game betean Pj and Stork. But Stork is the #1 Kespa( this say all ) and Pj... hm... damn.. right he is a good player but he need more to play to beat the monster Protoss STORK...
GG Pj you beat sAviOr(the perfect zerg) .
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On October 08 2007 15:24 micronesia wrote:Haha I was thinking more or less the same thing. Although the obvious spelling errors don't help... What are you talking about? Kind of confused.
Well, to add on to what i said before, i was exspecting korean rape. Through the entire thing, but when Pj took down sAviOr i was just thinking that maybe it was possible, and i must also add i think this was the most likely to end with a foreign victory in the starcraft WCG. But your going to say that you think sAviOr's ZvP compaired to storks PvP is that much of a difference? And you mentioned #1 KeSPA, but sAviOr held that for a while and now he's only #2 or #3, either way sAviOr is damn good, top 3 Zerg in the world. So i was compairing to the fact he took down that insane zerg, then all he had was a match up he was better at, on maps he was more familiar with. So it's not that much more of a long shot, if i had to guess what was more likely before either of the matches happening, i would say i would think him beating Stork PvP was 10x more likely them him beating savior PvZ. Maybe that's just me though.
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Calgary25969 Posts
You are dumb.
One player beating someone in a best of 3 says nothing about the result of a series with a completely different person playing a completely different matchup. Why you think there's any correlation, I don't know.
Stork made one mistake the whole series, and it was running his Zealots into PJ's army instead of retreating on Peaks. Other than this he played flawlessly. PJ played incredible well also, and didn't make many mistakes either. It was a small advantage leveraged to a win in both games.
You don't even list any arguments about why he should have won, except "ololo savior is monster zvp and pj won".
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On October 08 2007 19:15 karelen wrote: of course stork was a huge favourite, but i do think that this year was the final where a non-korean had the best chance of an upset.
Wasn't the final in '05 between ForU and Androide close?
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United States24614 Posts
On October 08 2007 23:56 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2007 15:24 micronesia wrote:On October 08 2007 15:10 oneofthem wrote: lolwut
you'd do fine in sales Haha I was thinking more or less the same thing. Although the obvious spelling errors don't help... What are you talking about? Kind of confused. Your poll is not very good in that it is very limited. You either have to believe in one very specific thing or another very specific thing in order to vote honestly.
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