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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-04 03:44:55
August 04 2007 03:44 GMT
#21
have played you long ago, but not under charliemurphy (i pretty much only use this ID here) my accounts on bnet were either eye-loser or SpoR/spor[mech]/spor.one I do not recall who won or whatever its probably like 1.09 or something. But you can't tech mass goons and have money for DT vs mnm.

that tourney edition basically just changes the terrain a bit to plating its stupid. My friend from bnet made it on west, op utoa his name is rainvortex/-exu-
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
August 04 2007 10:52 GMT
#22
Nice stuff Charlie. I like it.

Incidentally, I also suck on BB, so I should read more of this stuff.

What is it about this map and everyone being an expert though? Of all the none tourney maps, this one always got the most discussion.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-05 00:21:08
August 04 2007 11:41 GMT
#23
I think its viable to dt tech while you pump goons and as long as you have very good micro its safe to do.. and unless you want to waste money on cannons or 3 gate goon its what you have to do to stop 3 rax m&m rushes..the name eye-loser sounds a little familiar and ive played people from [mech] but they were embarassingly bad
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-05 03:59:52
August 05 2007 03:58 GMT
#24
[Mech] East totally sucks, this was west.

If you are gonna go goons with a dts, you might as well just get storm I see no use for DT on bloodbath other than to scout and stop expos, or the occasional rush.

PS-Manablue the reason why everyone thinks they are BB pros is because they play nothing but noobs on it all day and that kinda boosts yer ego

I know I am not a pro, but I do understand many concepts and strats on the map.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
August 07 2007 02:31 GMT
#25
The nice thing about BB is that micro is so damn important, it's different than playing the usual macro style maps. Still, I don't consider it a good map to show off your skill. Although there are several very strong players (I think alphablend and some guy from i2 clan (forgot the name) are probably the strongest I've seen on the map), it is a very specialized skill and good players on regular maps can always put up a good fight on BB as well, so they are better all-round.
T>Z is terribly imbalanced, but if you play other matchups then the map is OK, and it's fun to be forced to control your units well. It's basically the only map that really forces you to micro well. I especially enjoy TvP/PvT on it.
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-09 23:03:16
August 09 2007 23:03 GMT
#26
On August 05 2007 12:58 CharlieMurphy wrote:
[Mech] East totally sucks, this was west.

If you are gonna go goons with a dts, you might as well just get storm I see no use for DT on bloodbath other than to scout and stop expos, or the occasional rush.

PS-Manablue the reason why everyone thinks they are BB pros is because they play nothing but noobs on it all day and that kinda boosts yer ego

I know I am not a pro, but I do understand many concepts and strats on the map.
\

Like I said unless you want to build 2 cannons or 3 gate goon you have to build dt's to stop 3 rax m&m/firebat rushes. There is not enough to time to get storm unless you want to turtle behind cannons and lose map control.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 09 2007 23:50 GMT
#27
Seriously this doesn't make sense. If you can make DT's how is there no time to get HT? its the same damn tech. Besides any terran will have scans, they only need like 2 max to seal the deal.

If he goes 3 rax you have to build more gates and maybe some canons at your choke.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
August 11 2007 22:29 GMT
#28
You have to wait for the upgrade and by the time its done you'll be dead.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 14 2007 00:52 GMT
#29
I should actually revise some of these pictures for the 1.3 Bloodbath.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-20 03:32:43
August 20 2007 03:29 GMT
#30
Lol, I played someone who was using my scouting tactics randomly on b.net just now.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
[IrIs]YellOw
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden91 Posts
August 20 2007 16:14 GMT
#31
Awsome, that really helped me out. Have any other strategies and pics to describ e'em?
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-22 05:10:57
August 22 2007 05:03 GMT
#32
On August 07 2007 11:31 Brutalisk wrote:
The nice thing about BB is that micro is so damn important, it's different than playing the usual macro style maps. Still, I don't consider it a good map to show off your skill. Although there are several very strong players (I think alphablend and some guy from i2 clan (forgot the name) are probably the strongest I've seen on the map), it is a very specialized skill and good players on regular maps can always put up a good fight on BB as well, so they are better all-round.
T>Z is terribly imbalanced, but if you play other matchups then the map is OK, and it's fun to be forced to control your units well. It's basically the only map that really forces you to micro well. I especially enjoy TvP/PvT on it.


i2.dino back when I was very active I played him some times. He is one of the most skilled players I have ever played, he was ranked #2 in the USA at the time in which ever ladder was the most popular at the time (I honestly don't remember). He had superb theoretical understanding of the game and excellent application, his Protoss was very difficult to beat. I'm not going to name drop here but I have played and beat a few pros on Blood Bath

edit -- what is your bnet handle I'm guessing I have played you in the past? BTW I'm pretty much inactive now, I get on and play sometimes... but nothing like I used to.
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-22 05:07:27
August 22 2007 05:06 GMT
#33
On August 04 2007 10:28 TheGreatOne wrote:


Im pretty sure ive seen you play on east because i remember something similiar to a charliemurphy id and I know ive played and won but idk for sure ive played so many games.Do you know players like keazn422 a pretty solid terran I caught him hacking years ago he says he dont now but i still think he does lol but hes pretty good.. Wheremydogsat some 30 yr old korean dude but has a fucking solid zerg one of the best. Slicey/aka enforcer/destroyer or something i used to think he was real good years ago then i just got better but hes pretty decent old school bb player. Hellmuth-x17 aka hellmuth pretty damn good bb player plays very similar to me shares many thoughts very good player. Then i know a bunch of dumb players who are all right but arnt that good slowfx aka concur bad fur day or something , then theres JMC mexican not that good really, R]A[I]N all right player, theres some others but kind of forget them at the moment


I am 100% sure he hacks, he accidentally sent me a screenshot (with his camera not in game) of him playing and eating to show me how "pro" he was in the background on the monitor you could see my name typing some text to prove it was him eating the food. In the background you could see

"map hack lite"
"map hack full"
"map hack off"

he was trying to hide it, but to stupid to realize it was in the pic. What a genius. You can't call him a good solid player because he relies on the hack SO much to counter you.
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
August 22 2007 05:14 GMT
#34
On July 31 2007 17:14 IntoTheWow wrote:
surfer4life is an idiot.


He may be BM sometimes, but last time I was playing with him he was KoTH (King of the hill) in the underground BGH ladder, which is amazing because he is a USA Terran player. I played him a bit on Blood Bath, and he disliked losing quite a bit, his biggest problem, he is predictable.
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
August 22 2007 18:35 GMT
#35
On August 22 2007 14:06 alphablend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2007 10:28 TheGreatOne wrote:


Im pretty sure ive seen you play on east because i remember something similiar to a charliemurphy id and I know ive played and won but idk for sure ive played so many games.Do you know players like keazn422 a pretty solid terran I caught him hacking years ago he says he dont now but i still think he does lol but hes pretty good.. Wheremydogsat some 30 yr old korean dude but has a fucking solid zerg one of the best. Slicey/aka enforcer/destroyer or something i used to think he was real good years ago then i just got better but hes pretty decent old school bb player. Hellmuth-x17 aka hellmuth pretty damn good bb player plays very similar to me shares many thoughts very good player. Then i know a bunch of dumb players who are all right but arnt that good slowfx aka concur bad fur day or something , then theres JMC mexican not that good really, R]A[I]N all right player, theres some others but kind of forget them at the moment


I am 100% sure he hacks, he accidentally sent me a screenshot (with his camera not in game) of him playing and eating to show me how "pro" he was in the background on the monitor you could see my name typing some text to prove it was him eating the food. In the background you could see

"map hack lite"
"map hack full"
"map hack off"

he was trying to hide it, but to stupid to realize it was in the pic. What a genius. You can't call him a good solid player because he relies on the hack SO much to counter you.


I've always known hes hacked I just think its funny that I still beat him while he hacks.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
August 22 2007 18:36 GMT
#36
Btw charlie if you think im some kind of a joke ask wheremydogsat about j.dawg.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
August 22 2007 19:50 GMT
#37
On August 23 2007 03:36 TheGreatOne wrote:
Btw charlie if you think im some kind of a joke ask wheremydogsat about j.dawg.


I remember playing you few years ago (at least 2) on east, I had many different AKAs though
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
August 23 2007 08:03 GMT
#38
What were some of them id prolly remember. I used to suckback then tho :D
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hellmuth-X17
Profile Joined February 2007
United States3 Posts
August 30 2007 20:40 GMT
#39
J.dawg don't talk like you're one of the top BB players on east. I consider wheremydogsat a very strong Z player on BB. Although I don't use T, my TvZ on bb is decent due to the obvious imbal of TvZ. I played dogs probably 50+ 1v1 tvz's... I started out winning about 80%+ and it slowly dwindled down to about 50-50. Now he probably wins slightly more 1v1 in zvt. I know if I had better micro with M&M I would probably be able to win more. Back in the day the only way he would win is if he gank'ed me with some gay strat like mass burrow lings at choke, hiding hydra (morphing lurker inside my base near the 3 min patches) or other extremely gay strat to kill me fast (5 pool, massive fast lings and rush in and pray to win, or slow overlord lurker drop). I personally like P, since I believe P>T slightly, and P = Z. Perhaps I just havent been playing the right Z to make me believe otherwise. Ke is very good at tvp, and Dino is probably one of the remaining top P's on east for bb (although he rarely comes on now).
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 31 2007 04:10 GMT
#40
I see Dino on op tl-west occasionally he says he doesn't play bb anymore.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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