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yeah, it was pretty cheese-tastic, but hopefully people will scout better in the future...
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at least someone new will win this msl i hate watchjing people win everytime(SAVIOR)
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^ well, savior does have the skill to back that shit up (RE: because hes better than almost everyone else).
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poor bisu, haha, lost to flash? wow.. this is hilarious shit. D:
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i empathise, as i expected a tight series but it was a total letdown, entertainment-wise. and lol, bisu kept on doing that fe to corsair/dt combo to zerg, and i'd imagine it was sickening to deal with. perhaps it was poetic justice that he got mnm'ed for two games in a series?
i think the mark of a player truly meant to dominate is being able to take anything, and paying it back with interest. the way savior repelled that 4 gate zeal all in from daezang comes to mind. O_O
but dominance gets boring after a while, so i'm glad there's gonna be a first time osl winner this season!
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Look, Bisu lost. In sports, it's just about winning in the end. Federer has won 10 grand slams. We're not going to say, oh, he's just 'born' with talent so it sux and he cheeses too much with this talent.
Flash won. He was the better player that night. Simple as that.
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Guess Bisu should've prepared huh?
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pretty much. i think bisu just failed at preparing for the been rushed scenario and focused on his build of proxy reavers (probably). When you have already seen it done before (the gas trick) you have to be prepared for something like that in top tier progaming. Bisu lost the same way savior lost to Bisu last MSL, he simply prepared his shit and didn't prepared to what the opponent might do.
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lol flash pimped him twice and deserved semifinals..
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On June 29 2007 17:36 Jathin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2007 17:12 ssj100 wrote: Look, Bisu lost. In sports, it's just about winning in the end. Federer has won 10 grand slams. We're not going to say, oh, he's just 'born' with talent so it sux and he cheeses too much with this talent.
Flash won. He was the better player that night. Simple as that. Correction: Flash won. That does not mean he was the better player that night.
Correction: He was the better player.
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On June 29 2007 17:54 wizardpl wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2007 17:36 Jathin wrote:On June 29 2007 17:12 ssj100 wrote: Look, Bisu lost. In sports, it's just about winning in the end. Federer has won 10 grand slams. We're not going to say, oh, he's just 'born' with talent so it sux and he cheeses too much with this talent.
Flash won. He was the better player that night. Simple as that. Correction: Flash won. That does not mean he was the better player that night. Correction: He was the better player.
Correction: He is the better player.
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Flash is good.
Got really good potential to be one of the next greats.
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Oh no, flash cheeses twice in a 14-2 TvP record and hes suddenly a cheesy little kid. Also, I don't consider him a one match wonder.
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^^ Lol, I like the guy in the other thread who tried to convince everybody that Flash cheese 90% of the time -__-;;;;
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Hey, hey, I'm not trying to argue that the win was not justified. If I was, I would create a forum topic, not a blog. But I'm just very angry about how pitiful those 2 games were. And this is far from the Bisu/Savior series because Bisu's strat was just a new way to win, a strategy with a continuation and a lategame entry. What Flash did was pure cheese without any chances to enter lategame in case it failed.
And please do not talk better scouting. What do you scout with, I wonder? (take 3 probes away from the minline? make a widespread undefendible base?) And even in case you do scout, what are you gonna do with it? Neither another gateway, nor forge/cannon are gonna do that in time. And starting 2 gate on Monty Hall in fear of the dreaded cheese is not really the best option.
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On June 30 2007 01:38 BluzMan wrote: Hey, hey, I'm not trying to argue that the win was not justified. If I was, I would create a forum topic, not a blog. But I'm just very angry about how pitiful those 2 games were. And this is far from the Bisu/Savior series because Bisu's strat was just a new way to win, a strategy with a continuation and a lategame entry. What Flash did was pure cheese without any chances to enter lategame in case it failed.
And please do not talk better scouting. What do you scout with, I wonder? (take 3 probes away from the minline? make a widespread undefendible base?) And even in case you do scout, what are you gonna do with it? Neither another gateway, nor forge/cannon are gonna do that in time. And starting 2 gate on Monty Hall in fear of the dreaded cheese is not really the best option. scouting owns cheese? u really ask urself what u can do if u scout it?? come on dude think hard.... if a cheesing attempt like this is scouted, it will be countered (unless its scouted too late). U dont need 3 probes to scout it, 1 probe checking all ur 3 mineral chokes would have been enough. and if u scout it u build a pylon block or send some probes to mine/cancel mine the mineral patch hes trying to mine up. this all delays him while u pump forge/cannon... once cannon is up its pretty much gg.
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On June 29 2007 16:14 YanGpaN wrote: gg never liked bisu..
lol yes and:
On June 29 2007 16:30 Raithed wrote: poor bisu, haha, lost to flash? wow.. this is hilarious shit. D:
Enough said.
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Flash exposed a fault in Bisu's game and capitalized on it. Being cheesed twice means his early game defense is weak so it gives him something to work on.
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I really hate that Flash is being ragged on so hard. He's 15 - 3 now and only 3 of his games, that I remember were 'Cheese'. But even the 'cheese' worked so well because he scouted well, and saw an opportunity.
He just played again last night where he dominated Jaedong on Python. This is after defending an early ling attack JUST BARELY because of his awesome micro.
Klaz commentated a brilliant Flash TvZ against oDin from not too long ago, check it out.
Flash is consistent. his 15 - 3 record proves that. And even if you take away 3 of his wins because they were "cheese", he would be 12 - 3. (But we wouldn't, because flash earned those wins.)
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Hahaha you little loser....
Ermmm, sorry, Flash might be a nice kid, but cheesing champions is not the way to go.
EDIT: this, OFC, is pointed towards Flash having lost vs GGPlay, not the previous poster.
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