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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 22:41:19
September 24 2018 22:17 GMT
#1
I don't know, but I know what I do say every time - "I'm back"

Hasn't worked out so far.

Maybe it's because the game shaped my teenage years, or because the community shaped everything from my writing to my knowledge of pop culture (thanks LR threads), but I always come back to TL. Every time, it's with the intent of giving something back to the place that has given me so much - so many moments, so many friends, so many opportunities to become better at the things I like, and many formative experiences. I'm not gonna lie, I get asked a lot about the signed Collector's Edition Legacy of the Void that sits prominently in my bookshelf among heaps of course literature. I got it at Blizzcon, I'll inevitably mention, even if no one really asks or knows to appreciate the answer.

I like to think I come back again and again with the hope of continuing where I kind of haphazardly left off because very few things in my life have been as important to me as the Teamliquid/Starcraft one-two punch. But my reasoning is that if Taeja can come back to professional Starcraft after his hiatus, and Serral can become a top player internationally, then I'm sure I can crank out something or other eventually.

On a seemingly unrelated note, I want to get a few words out on being unwell, generally.

With the looming risk of sounding too ideological for comfort, we live in a society of unsound values. Not entirely unsound, mind, just unsound enough that many people that lose their footing get trampled. I see it in the workplace, in university, in my swimming team, in my family, in the news. More recently, I've seen it in myself. I've only recently come to terms with being public to my friends/family about my psychological struggles, and while I would like to say that it's been relieving (it hasn't) and that I'm steadily getting better as a result (I'm not), it has given me perspective on just how ill-equipped many parts of society are for dealing with the mentally ill (or even just those that are ill for the long term, in general). "I'm depressed" is a dirty, dirty sentence and I've never received so much unfounded and poorly researched advice as I have in the last two months. All in goodwill, but fumbling regardless. Everyone has a home remedy for a sore muscle, a cold, a headache. The home remedy for depression, more often than not is, "try to think about the good things" (my coach suggested intense masturbation, which was an awkward conversation)-- which is a gut punch on its own, because more generally I can't seem to think of a single good thing half of the time. On a good day, I can stand on my own. On a bad day, the bed is more appealing than doing anything at all, because there, at least, I can whisk away the day. "You have so many good things going for you" is an awful thing to hear when you already know it but don't feel it. It's all with good intentions, but I've never felt as guilty for feeling weak as when my brother had to tell my parents that the psychologist had essentially written me out of studies for the rest of the semester.

"I'm seeing a psychologist" is a sentence I never thought I would type out, because only people that don't have their lives together get ill. I know -- and have always known, I suppose -- how stupid and untrue that notion is, but it is so pervasive that you risk falling into believing it of yourself and dispelling your own concerns as a result. I was ill for a long time before I began looking for professional help. I overworked myself and failed to do so many things at once that the growing stack of things I'd failed to do became an ominous everyday shadow that I'm still kind of scared of. But I am seeing a psychologist, and while I'm not well, I have been in a worse place. This is all a long-winded way for me to say, like a million other people have, that "getting help" is called getting help because it gets you help. I thought the embarrassment of opening up would outweigh the merits of having a sympathetic ear. It didn't, actually. I didn't even die, so that's cool.

What I mean to say is that if you at any time feel like you are overburdened (especially when it feels inexplicable), letting someone know isn't worse than the alternatives. I'm too proud for my own good and I ran circles around every truth and only gradually surrendered them, bit by bit, because it was easier to deny, deny, deny.

This might all seem obvious (and it does to me as well, in retrospect), but if I can convince even one person somewhere down the line that help is both accessible and harmless, then a least something good will have come of all of this.




If you read past all that, either out of morbid curiosity or of genuine care, I also want to say that I keep coming back to this place because it's full of caring, genuine, and cool people -- even if they cheer for Terran players. Thank you for being part of what makes this such a great community.




I debated whether self-advertising is really justified given how invisible I have been over the last two-some years, but I've realized that prostitution is an inescapable part of writing (don't quote me). In the long back-and-forth between myself and publishers, I'm writing a horror serial in the vein of H.P Lovecraft-meets-Fringe called Code Eldritch of which I publish two bite-sized chapters each week (Wednesday and Sunday). It's a funky project, but fun. If you're short on reading material, you're welcome to check it out.

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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-25 05:00:26
September 25 2018 04:38 GMT
#2
On September 25 2018 07:17 Zealously wrote:
prostitution is an inescapable part of writing


I see.

On September 25 2018 07:17 Zealously wrote:
"I'm seeing a psychologist"


I wish you the best of luck. My cynicism about the field dampens any hope though.

On September 25 2018 07:17 Zealously wrote:
Code Eldritch


This reads like one of my favorite he-wait a minute.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17892 Posts
September 25 2018 04:39 GMT
#3
i disagree.
i'd say...
writing is an inescapable part of prostitution.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-25 06:42:34
September 25 2018 06:42 GMT
#4
Welcome back! I rolled back the years too and came back to watching brood war a couple of months back. It feels absolutely wonderful.

I am sad to hear about your struggles. I sort of know first hand how hard it can be because my wife suffers from depression too. In her case it was key to get help. And thankfully with support from a really good psychologist and medication she got out of the worst part of it. Now, only 10 months later, she does so much better and is off the medication as well. I hope you will feel better!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
September 25 2018 08:30 GMT
#5
Just wanted to say TL loves you!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 25 2018 12:30 GMT
#6
Better seeing a psychologist than a psychotic bitch
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 25 2018 13:14 GMT
#7
Nice to (potentially ) have you back and good to see that you try to deal with your problems and share your experience to hopefully help others with it.
Gonna check out your eldritch horror story for sure
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 25 2018 21:25 GMT
#8
tl;dr but I absolutely love you and it's great to see you posting.
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States568 Posts
September 25 2018 22:56 GMT
#9
I’ve been a lurker for a while and don’t really have any experiences with you personally, but I am thankful that you shared that story with me and I genuinely hope you find whatever you are looking for.
Hakuna Matata B*tches
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
September 25 2018 22:56 GMT
#10
Welcome back back back! :D
If you ever wanna talk hit me up, I'm an expert on seeing a psychologist
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 26 2018 00:35 GMT
#11
Sad to read you're having a rough time but on the other hand nice to read something by you again. Really cool how many people gets pulled back to TL, posting their blogs from time to time. Wish you well going forward!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 26 2018 01:25 GMT
#12
I think that it's very important to have long term goals or general life goals that you want to live up to - even if you know these goals will most likely not be possible for you to complete given your short lifespan. I hope you have something like that and if not - just keep reading and looking toward the future. Every day I spend a lot of time thinking about the future and how what I've been doing recently and how different actions would affect my future.

By thinking about my future I realize what it is that I want truly matters to me, what things I need and what things I don't need. This has been incredibly liberating for me and has given me significant direction in achieving my goals.

P.S. I also think it helps to have role models so if Taeja is a role model for you then that's good to hear.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 26 2018 09:33 GMT
#13
Oh man, this was a lot of truth. People who perpetuate the ideas that mental illness is "weakness" or that it is something you solve by "positive thoughts" deserve a huge kick in the ass. Interesting how people would scream about ableism when it comes to physical impairment, but ignore mental health altogether.

My wife suffers from depression since 15 years ago. Now she is relatively fine on ADs, but the first year was rough. I always considered myself somewhat enlightened but still this experience has been a huge eye opener to me as to how serious depression can be. It's not just "bad mood", it's a total breakdown of the way you percieve the world and yourself. "Seek professional help" is really the only thing I would ever dare to suggest to anyone suffering from it.

I do not know much about you, but your passion for sc2 back in the day was awesome. I wish you good times on TL and in life in general.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 14:13:19
September 26 2018 14:11 GMT
#14
This was well written. It's almost "in" to talk about depression and I do feel eventually we'll see a lot of fake #alsoDepressed trying to draw attention to themselves.

But at the moment most people, myself included tend to see it as an excuse so we don't allow ourselves to classify ourselves as depressed.

I'm in the process of going through insurance for a therapist but I'm slow to act. I just have had bad experiences with therapists in the past not caring about me. And also feel like insurance tries to get as much money as possible.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
September 27 2018 04:52 GMT
#15
Just remember that no matter what, Roro still loves you.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1183 Posts
September 27 2018 11:31 GMT
#16
I saw a therapist, but honestly it was just kind of a person I talked to. But I did feel more open to talking about some of my issues with friends, which helped.

Also taking a few trips to Asia helped immensely. Completely broke my routine. Last time I stayed in Asia for three months. I only played StarCraft once and SC2 once. Ended up drinking a lot, meeting a lot of women. I picked up foosball in Korea. Another game that's terrible for your wrists.

When I got back I moved out of my dad's place and got my own apartment in Las Vegas. I have stuff to work towards, I'm learning Korean right now. I have motivation for executing my plans because I have an almost immediate reward.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17892 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 17:09:58
September 27 2018 17:05 GMT
#17
i highly recommend keeping a daily journal. similar to a diary. one of the big reasons teenage girls handle divorce better than teenage boys is that they tend to "journal" a lot more than boys. just spend a few minutes per day reflecting on your day. use a pen and paper. no electronics. i employ the journaling routine of Eli Bay's "Relaxation Response" method.

good luck in your journey.

On September 27 2018 20:31 iopq wrote:
Also taking a few trips to Asia helped immensely. Completely broke my routine. Last time I stayed in Asia for three months. I only played StarCraft once and SC2 once. Ended up drinking a lot, meeting a lot of women. I picked up foosball in Korea. Another game that's terrible for your wrists.

maybe what you need is a physiotherapist rather than a psychotherapist. With proper mechanics you should avoid wrist problems caused by repetitive motions. the skill one must acquire is the ability to determine what is "poor mechanics".

i'm a tenosynovitis sufferer. it was a secondary injury developed due to medial epicondylitis. you tilt your wrists slightly inward to compensate for the pain in the medial epicondyle. it was a 2 year ordeal made me an expert in upper body mechanics.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
September 27 2018 23:30 GMT
#18
Welcome back Zealously
Dendres
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 15:20:00
October 02 2018 08:48 GMT
#19
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 05 2018 12:26 GMT
#20
I can't kick people from the writing staff chat because you made it, so I'm glad to have you back :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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