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State of SC2 - Historical PoV on Matchup Design - Page 2

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 03 2015 18:49 GMT
#21
Interesting how he mentions Post Rain PvP as a interesting matchup. As a protoss I find it pretty boring . Yes there are the occasional gems-herO v MC HuK v Naniwa Dear v HerO but overall, meh
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
September 03 2015 20:43 GMT
#22
I like PvP
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 06 2015 01:59 GMT
#23
Just a few things for you stuchiu.
I love all your writings, always insightful and I use a ton of stuff in my casts.
Keep up the good work.
Zest fanboy.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
September 07 2015 16:59 GMT
#24
Only just seeing this post now, but it was well written.

Still I'm thinking you've missed some regarding TvP evolution: Fall 2014 moving away from the standard 3 base scv pulls styles that were pretty much standard meta since the death of hellbat drops in early hots.

The 2 base widow mine style of play has pretty much defined the korean meta since last fall. Rarely do we see standard 3 racks openings into a 3 base scv pull these days.

Even more recently the popularity of factory openers (w/mine/hellion drops) pushed korean protoss into opening stargate almost universally, which allowed Terran's to start opening 3 cc before 2nd/3rd barracks/factory to the point where the old scv pull style has had a small revival.

We even saw phoenix colossus become the fairly common metagame in June of this year as a response to the vikingless style that became massively popular on maps like Expedition Lost, etc.
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EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
September 11 2015 18:55 GMT
#25
On September 08 2015 01:59 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Only just seeing this post now, but it was well written.

Still I'm thinking you've missed some regarding TvP evolution: Fall 2014 moving away from the standard 3 base scv pulls styles that were pretty much standard meta since the death of hellbat drops in early hots.

The 2 base widow mine style of play has pretty much defined the korean meta since last fall. Rarely do we see standard 3 racks openings into a 3 base scv pull these days.

Even more recently the popularity of factory openers (w/mine/hellion drops) pushed korean protoss into opening stargate almost universally, which allowed Terran's to start opening 3 cc before 2nd/3rd barracks/factory to the point where the old scv pull style has had a small revival.

We even saw phoenix colossus become the fairly common metagame in June of this year as a response to the vikingless style that became massively popular on maps like Expedition Lost, etc.
'

Love seeing comments like this that show a relish for the details.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 11 2015 19:03 GMT
#26
I strongly believe that SC2 should have more of the stuff I like, and less of the stuff I don't like.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24234 Posts
September 19 2015 12:46 GMT
#27
I said it before, I'll say it again, early HotS PvZ is my favorite match-up of all time. It was a varied, wild and untame jungle with a huuuuuge array of strats for both sides, proper scouting being one of the most important things. There were interesting choices at every turn, including mid/lategame compositions, with interesting experimentations like sOs' chargelot void ray archon or Classic's void ray colossus. The mu got bad for spectators when "cancer SH" style got more and more played, but I can say for sure I always had a lot of fun when playing vs SHs.

So yeah, early HotS PvZ is my favorite match-up of all time, hands down.
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