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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 02 2015 23:39 GMT
#1
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You have four cookies. Cookies 1-4 emit the following types of ionizing radiation respectively:

  1. gamma rays
  2. alpha particles (Helium nucleus)
  3. neutrons
  4. beta particles (electrons)


Of the above four cookies, you must eat one (Do not actually try this at home). You may throw only one in the garbage. You must place one cookie in your pocket, and you must hold one cookie in your hand. What do you do with each cookie?

(You may take each action exactly once)

Poll: Gamma Cookie?

(Vote): Eat It
(Vote): Trash It
(Vote): Put in Pocket
(Vote): Hold in Hand


Poll: Alpha Cookie?

(Vote): Eat It
(Vote): Trash It
(Vote): Put in Pocket
(Vote): Hold in Hand


Poll: Neutron Cookie?

(Vote): Eat It
(Vote): Trash It
(Vote): Put in Pocket
(Vote): Hold in Hand


Poll: Beta Cookie?

(Vote): Eat It
(Vote): Trash It
(Vote): Put in Pocket
(Vote): Hold in Hand



Assuming your objective is to remain healthy, why would you choose to eat the one you did? Which one did you trash? Feel free to put all four choices in your reply (in addition to completing the optional polls) alongside your reasoning.

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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 02 2015 23:59 GMT
#2
I know pretty much nothing about radiation, but IIRC, gamma radiation will probably give you cancer, and electrons can simple be stopped by aluminum foil. Am I allowed to wrap the beta particle cookie in aluminum foil before putting it in my pocket? I have no clue what alpha particles or neutrons does to people.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 03 2015 00:10 GMT
#3
I ate them all, wish me luck
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 03 2015 00:39 GMT
#4
eat: mmh, i think eating the gamma one wouldnt be that bad
hand: alpha, as it shouldnt get through your skin
pocket: beta, should be resonably safe
trash: neutrons, most dangerous along side alpha and have greater range
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 03 2015 00:43 GMT
#5
On June 03 2015 09:39 Paljas wrote:
eat: mmh, i think eating the gamma one wouldnt be that bad
hand: alpha, as it shouldnt get through your skin
pocket: beta, should be resonably safe
trash: neutrons, most dangerous along side alpha and have greater range

Wow, really good. The other thing about the gamma cookie is that, if you hold the gamma source in your hand or pocket, it can still penetrate your body anyway! As you surmised, your clothing will be able to stop the beta particles, and your skin alone is sufficient to stop alphas (if they even make it through the air to your body).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 03 2015 01:58 GMT
#6
eat: gamma cookie
trash: alpha cookie
put in pocket: neutron - i was going to trash this one but clicked the wrong option
hold in hand: beta
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
June 03 2015 02:02 GMT
#7
I'm not surprised that you would make a blog like this
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NoSoldier
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany84 Posts
June 03 2015 02:03 GMT
#8
Im confused. I should know this seriously. Why am i not paying attention at university?

To me the rule of thumb i remember was: The smaller the harder to stop. The harder to stop the more dangerous.

Now lets think here:

Neutrons > Protons > Electrons > Light particles

Or in other words:

Gamma should be more dangerous than everything else, therefor i trash that one. I'd eat the neutrons one, based on the assumptions that Neutrons are bigger than a nucleus is. Hold alpha in hand and put beta in my pocket.

Suprise me. :D
If i only had a clue on how to have a clue... life could be sooo easy. :D
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 03 2015 02:11 GMT
#9
On June 03 2015 11:03 NoSoldier wrote:
Im confused. I should know this seriously. Why am i not paying attention at university?

To me the rule of thumb i remember was: The smaller the harder to stop. The harder to stop the more dangerous.

There are basically two things to consider. Like you said, the harder to stop the radiation is, the worse. However, you also have to consider what the effect will be if the radiation does interact with the body... which type of radiation has a more severe biological damage capability (quality factor)?

Now lets think here:

Neutrons > Protons > Electrons > Light particles

Or in other words:

Gamma should be more dangerous than everything else

Although they have a high ability to penetrate (bad), they have a less severe effect on tissue than other types of radiation, actually.

, therefor i trash that one. I'd eat the neutrons one

Actually, since neutrons are not charged, they are hard to stop too (like gammas). Unlike gammas, neutrons wreck havoc on biology.

based on the assumptions that Neutrons are bigger than a nucleus is.

This is an aside, but neutrons are not bigger than a nucleus.

Hold alpha in hand and put beta in my pocket.

This is good. Beta is more penetrable than alphas, so you want to put it in your pocket where clothing will block it. Alphas barely penetrate anything so you can hold them in your hand (you definitely wouldn't want to eat them because then they could get access to the inside of your body).

ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NoSoldier
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany84 Posts
June 03 2015 02:15 GMT
#10
Hey im dead! ^_^

Good this is only theory. :D
If i only had a clue on how to have a clue... life could be sooo easy. :D
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 03 2015 02:16 GMT
#11
Haha don't worry eating a few neutrons probably wouldn't kill you :p
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NoSoldier
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany84 Posts
June 03 2015 02:19 GMT
#12
Lets hope it is not a supersized american cookie then!
If i only had a clue on how to have a clue... life could be sooo easy. :D
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50593 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 02:32:08
June 03 2015 02:29 GMT
#13
ate gamma, trashed alpha, put neutron in hand and beta in pocket.

now I have cancer/dead.
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 04:08:27
June 03 2015 04:08 GMT
#14
eat: gamma
trash: neutron
pocket: alpha
hand: beta

Would rather put the least penetrative one near ones most vulnerable organ :p
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
June 03 2015 11:31 GMT
#15
Eat: Gamma (toss up between gamma and neutron for least damaging while inside you)
Trash: Alpha (that stuff will break you apart)
Pocket: Neutron (see Gamma)
Hand: Beta (Extremities are pretty resilient to radiation).
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 12:59:26
June 03 2015 12:58 GMT
#16
Eat : Gamma, because you need repeated exposure from it, to get a high enough dose to actually develop any tumors/complaints.

Trash : Neutron, because these do more irrevocable damage to the DNA than Alpha or Beta does.

Pocket : Alpha, because it won't go through your clothes. The radiation may very well not even penetrate the cookie itself.

Hand : Beta, this will probably do some damage to your hand, but we're here to remain healthy. A healthy person can withstand some damage onto the hand, however when you do beta in your pocket, it may - or may not - go through the clothes. If it does go through the clothes, my testicles will be damaged and It's possible that I can't procreate anymore, which means that I'm not healthy anymore. Whereas if I have a damaged hand, I can still do all my necessary functions.

edit; as my gf just described this :
"you better protect your balls than your hands so you put that alpha cookie in your pocket"
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
June 03 2015 17:54 GMT
#17
trash: neutron (don't want to go making other things radioactive)
hold in hand: alpha (doesn't penetrate skin)
put in pocket: beta (most will be blocked by clothing and skin, and won't get to any of the really juicy organs, especially if it's something other than a front pocket on a man planning on having biological children
eat: gamma (total deposited dose is the lowest)
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 22:24:44
June 03 2015 22:22 GMT
#18
you didn't specify the most important thing, their energies/number/activity, so it's kinda difficult to answer.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 03 2015 22:26 GMT
#19
On June 04 2015 07:22 quirinus wrote:
you didn't specify the most important thing, their energies/number/activity, so it's kinda difficult to answer.

This is true. You are forced to make assumptions with the goal of minimizing negative impact to your health. Without more information, which one would you eat?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 04 2015 00:09 GMT
#20
So am I dead right away from eating all four or do I get cool powers?

Or do I just get cancer and it sucks for a long time?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 04 2015 00:50 GMT
#21
On June 04 2015 09:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I dead right away from eating all four or do I get cool powers?

Or do I just get cancer and it sucks for a long time?

I think the fecal feast was worse for you.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 04 2015 22:49 GMT
#22
On June 04 2015 09:50 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 09:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I dead right away from eating all four or do I get cool powers?

Or do I just get cancer and it sucks for a long time?

I think the fecal feast was worse for you.

Hahaha. So true.

Stomach: Alpha cookie
Trash: Gamma cookie
Hand: Beta cookie
Pocket: Neutron cookie

I can only remember how this worked vaguely so I gave it a shot. I'm probably melting in front of you now am I? I forgot how neutrons have no charge and yeah it makes it harder to stop despite their mass.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24743 Posts
June 04 2015 23:19 GMT
#23
On June 05 2015 07:49 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 09:50 micronesia wrote:
On June 04 2015 09:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I dead right away from eating all four or do I get cool powers?

Or do I just get cancer and it sucks for a long time?

I think the fecal feast was worse for you.

Hahaha. So true.

Stomach: Alpha cookie
Trash: Gamma cookie
Hand: Beta cookie
Pocket: Neutron cookie

I can only remember how this worked vaguely so I gave it a shot. I'm probably melting in front of you now am I? I forgot how neutrons have no charge and yeah it makes it harder to stop despite their mass.

I don't recommend eating the alpha cookie. Alpha cookies are only dangerous if they get into your body! Also, better to ditch the neutron cookie than the gamma cookie!
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
June 05 2015 00:07 GMT
#24
We experience gamma radiation regularly. Eat gamma. There are weapons called neutron bombs. Trash neutron.

Didn't have a clue about Alpha and Beta.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 17:07:15
June 05 2015 17:06 GMT
#25
Trash - neutron (specifically someones trash I hate, then that asshole has a radioactive bin)
Eat - gamma (be pooped out soonish)
Pocket - alpha (blocked by clothes)
Hand - beta (then proceed to high five and rub into hair of everyone I hate)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 05 2015 20:27 GMT
#26
The real important question is how delicious each cookie is.
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