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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 15:19:27
May 20 2015 17:56 GMT
#1
What's this all about?

This blog is, once more, a big thank you to TL.net and its amazing members. My year of social suicide, of being quite literally a working dead, has come to an end, finally, and you've been a key part in making it not too terrible for me, which is why I thank you. However, I figured out that this time I'd explain things more in details. I originally intended to synchronize this with my 10K blog, but since I didn't do enough quality posts shitpost enough, here it is, consider it an almost-10K posts blog too. Since it involves me talking about my life, be warned that it may not be very interesting, but well (;
(note : my English is not that good already, but additionally, I don't know shit about words concerning education/studies/etc. If there's something you don't understand or think is not well formulated, don't hesitate and commentate !)

Perspectives

If you read my posts with attention since I've been really active on TL (basically since October 2014), you maybe saw me complain about things such as having no time to play SC2, studying a lot, etc. The reason for that is that this year, I chosed as a study path Medicine. Now, I don't know how Medicine studies are organized in other countries, but I think that the French system is pretty unique (Medecine in itself is pretty unique compared to other study paths in France), so I'll try to explain it quickly.

First important thing is that in France, studying Medecine is purely done in a public university. That means that you cannot become a doctor by going to a private school/university/college ; that means that you cannot "pay your diploma" ; that means that someone coming from an überrich family and someone coming from a poor family have theorically equal chances of becoming a doctor.

Second important thing is that, in 1971, the French government, blinded by its desire of reducing medical expenses (keep in mind that in France anyone, independently of his/her income, job, etc, can have the State (partly) pay for his/her own medical expenses, and it is a heavy burden on the French Republic's budget), decided to create a numerus clausus at the end of the First year of Medecine studies (if you don't mind, I'll now refer to the First year of Medicine studies as the "P1"). This numerus clausus is a set amount of first-year students (that amount being set each year by the government) who are accepted in Second year (which will now be refered to as the "P2"). For example, in my city, Angers (~200,000 inhabitants), only 170 people, among the 1,400 that were here at the beginning of the year, are accepted in P2. As you can guess, only ~12% going through mainly means three things : heavy competition, heavy pressure, no time for fun. Oh yeah, it means another thing too : since this year is basically a way to sort out the people that are ready to sacrifice one year of their life from those who are not, what we have to learn, and what we are evaluated on, has very little to do with actual medicine (believe me, an actual doctor has really no idea on the number of subunits contained in a clathrin triskelion) and is mainly a sea of useless, discouraging information.

Third important thing : once you're in P2, you're basically guaranteed to become a doctor. You still have 8+ years of studies to do, these years being of varying difficulty, but you're in for good.

Fourth, less important but to be noted, thing : you cannot try that P1 again and again for your whole life. If you fail your P1 once, you can try a second time. If you fail the second time, you're out. You cannot start Medicine studies in France again. So yeah, even more pressure and competition. For the record, I am myself a bizuth, someone who tried the P1 for the first time.

Fifth, less important but to be noted, thing : the way we are evaluated is by having one big midyear exam in January and one big final exam in May. That means that during the year, you have no idea whether or not you're working efficiently, how you rank compared to others, etc.

Hell And Back Again

So as I said, the P1 revolves around three things : pressure, competition, no fun. Each person who is really motivated - because to be fair, among the 1,400 people who were there at the beginning of the year, 200 had abandoned after one month and ~700 after six months - knows perfectly well that every other person who is motivated too will work his/her ass off. Thus everyone tries to work harder than the others ; a literal arms race begins, including various things such as focus-enhancing drugs, personal intimidation, dickish behavior, etc. In the dark times before the glorious Internet, it also included degrading books (notably at the University Library), but thankfully the Internet brings light and justice to the world.

It is also to be noted that the carrés, the students who try the P1 for the second time already, know each others and thus are organized, while the bizuth don't know themselves very well (and have no time to) ; this leads to the carrés sometimes intimidating, threatening, etc, bizuths who get good results (who look like they'd get good results, more precisely), as well as preventing presential lessons (I dunno if that's the correct word? Basically we're 700 in an amphitheater, listening to a boring as fuck teacher saying verbatim the same thing he said the year before, and the year before that, etc) from being calm and silent. Although in Angers the carrés are quite cool, not threatening people, just doing a lot of noise.

Obviously, part of the arms race is the amount of hours you put in your studies. As far as I'm concerned, I know that my (theorical) typical week was the following : from 7:30 to 12:15 -> presential lessons ; from ~12:30 to ~13:30 -> eat and watch Korean StarCraft if possible ; from ~13:30 to ~21:30 -> study, study, study, repeat ; then try to maintain 8 hours of sleep. Which amounts to ~12/13 hours of work per day, or ~85 hours per week, since I studied 12h/day on weekends. During the lessonless month prior to our exams, I went up to 14h/day of studying, which gives us a wonderful figure of 98h/week (not even touching the 100h/week, what a scrub). I also know that some people worked more than that, mainly by lessening their sleep duration, which imo isn't a very good thing to do, but well.

But sheer numbers alone cannot express the raw violence of the P1. When you try to maximize the time you spend studying, you are forced to minimize the time spent on basic social interactions, parties, etc. In the end, the only persons you end up seeing and discussing with on a regular basis are mainly people you know and who are in Medicine too, because you're in the amphitheater with them. Personally I also had two non-Medicine friends with whom I ran 2h/week, but I know that not everyone did. Most of the students also work alone (for the simple reason that working as a group in that kind of context sucks, really). So, basically, what you do is that you commit a very real social suicide for nine months, you cut off from the world, no FaceBook (seeing pics of friends partying is terrible for your mental state, I tell you that), no video games, no alcohol, no parties, no girls, no shit, you empty your world of (almost, I'll come to that later) everything that isn't Medicine (or, rather, random subjects barely in relation with Medicine).

It's really hard to express, but it's quite literally going to Hell. You lose something in yourself as a person when doing that, although you could also say that you gain something, that it makes you stronger. It is, really, becoming a working dead, becoming someone who is absent from society and who is not defined anymore by the common traits we use to define human beings, but by the work you do. You live and breathe by your work, you really do. That's an experience sometimes (or often, even?) bordering insanity, because while being forced to commit social suicide must be terrible, forcing yourself, with your own will, to commit said social suicide, while you could go out and party and abandon this shitty life, is even harder to live.

I'm not complaining, though, as I am not one to renounce when facing difficulties ; and thankfully TL has made my year better.

Liquid Horses and the Anchor to Life

So yeah, I said that I was going to come back to the "empty your world of almost everything that isn't Medicine" part. So here. This year has led me to believe fully that the human being is by nature a social animal. A Human, to be human, has to live in society, has to communicate with persons of his kind. You just cannot retain a healthy mental state while never having the feeling of being part of a society. And the very basis of a society, the "primal" form of society, is the community. That's why TL has been so important to me this year. Even though an online forum obviously cannot replace real-world social interaction, TL gave me the feeling of being part of a community, and thus part of a small kind of society, which was essential to keep me sane. TL, and on a greater scale the SC2 scene, has been my anchor to reality, as funny as that may sound.

It is also possible that when you saw the numbers of work hours per day in the previous paragraph, you went like "wtf it's not true, he has almost 10K posts in ~8 months and I saw him post at various times of the day". Yeah, the cycle I described previously, "study, study, study, repeat" was in reality closer to "study, check TL, study, check TL, repeat". One of the wonderful thing about TL is that it takes very little time to F5 a thread and talk about ZvZ and Roaches, and it does not require a lot of focus. It's very easy to learn something, F5 two or three threads, learn something else, F5 again, etc. And while I sometimes legit lost time by reading long articles (damn you Razzia Of The Blizzsters^^) or arguing too much (damn you matchfixing), I feel like TL has been way more beneficial to me than it has been detrimental.

So a big big thank you to the whole of TL and the SC2 scene, you're awesome.

What now?

Sadly I don't know yet if I succeeded my year or not D: But after the midyear exams of January, I was ranked 73rd on ~1400, which leaves me some margin to fail at the endyear exams, which were this week and ended today. I don't feel like I did extremely well nor extremely badly, so I'll just wait & see.

I'm now free, I'm back to society. Parties and alcohol await ; fun times are ahead ; at least until the results are published. If I get in P2, then it'll be a wonderful year of living the sex, drugs & rock'n'roll dream all the people in P2 live for a year (I'm serious, they party so much it's actually disgusting). If I don't... well, that'd be bad.

As far as SC2 and TL are concerned I'd like to be useful too. I feel like TL has been way more beneficial to me that I've been beneficial to TL/the SC2 scene. I have some ideas for the future. I'll see if I can make them happen. Oh yeah, and I'll be back to Roaching people of every race on ladder and to making maps too :D

SHOUTOUTS (note : if you're not included, don't feel not included, as my memory just failed to remember you quickly ; if you, whoever you are, lurker or active forum member, ever took the time to read one of my posts, thank you - except you, SackOfDirtyThings)

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
May 20 2015 19:19 GMT
#2
Rofl I was wondering a few days ago if you were studying medecine or doing a prépa.

And you also live the same city as me, I'm pretty sure we are going to meet one day in a bar.
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Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
May 21 2015 00:19 GMT
#3
I did much lurking, but read all your posts. I'm very thankful and happy for you that you're on the up and up! TL people are my favorite people, so I'm glad that you're doing well and feeling better! It makes me smile to think there's other humans out there who find all things preceded by "www.teamliquid.net/..." to be a wonderful place to reside and who can gain so much from what an outsider might think a highly non-social place.

Cheers from across the Atlantic friend!
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
May 21 2015 01:15 GMT
#4
You're rockin my friend All the best, and even if you didnt' get in, you know that you gave it your all
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 21 2015 08:59 GMT
#5
No shoutout to me?

0/5
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 21 2015 09:45 GMT
#6
)) keep it up, bro!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 16:18:28
May 21 2015 11:28 GMT
#7
On May 21 2015 04:19 Aeromi wrote:
Rofl I was wondering a few days ago if you were studying medecine or doing a prépa.

And you also live the same city as me, I'm pretty sure we are going to meet one day in a bar.

Wow really? We really need to meet :D

On May 21 2015 09:19 Kommatiazo wrote:
I did much lurking, but read all your posts. I'm very thankful and happy for you that you're on the up and up! TL people are my favorite people, so I'm glad that you're doing well and feeling better! It makes me smile to think there's other humans out there who find all things preceded by "www.teamliquid.net/..." to be a wonderful place to reside and who can gain so much from what an outsider might think a highly non-social place.

Cheers from across the Atlantic friend!

On May 21 2015 10:15 firehand101 wrote:
You're rockin my friend All the best, and even if you didnt' get in, you know that you gave it your all

On May 21 2015 18:45 boxerfred wrote:
)) keep it up, bro!


Thanks !

On May 21 2015 17:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
No shoutout to me?

0/5

Ooooooh I knew I was forgetting some people, and turns out it's my bros from Finland, how unacceptable is that ):
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 21 2015 13:28 GMT
#8
On May 21 2015 20:28 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 04:19 Aeromi wrote:
Rofl I was wondering a few days ago if you were studying medecine or doing a prépa.

And you also live the same city as me, I'm pretty sure we are going to meet one day in a bar.

Wow really? We really need to meet :D

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 09:19 Kommatiazo wrote:
I did much lurking, but read all your posts. I'm very thankful and happy for you that you're on the up and up! TL people are my favorite people, so I'm glad that you're doing well and feeling better! It makes me smile to think there's other humans out there who find all things preceded by "www.teamliquid.net/..." to be a wonderful place to reside and who can gain so much from what an outsider might think a highly non-social place.

Cheers from across the Atlantic friend!

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 10:15 firehand101 wrote:
You're rockin my friend All the best, and even if you didnt' get in, you know that you gave it your all

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 18:45 boxerfred wrote:
)) keep it up, bro!


Thanks !

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 17:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
No shoutout to me?

0/5

Ooooooh I knew I was forgetting some people, and turns it's my bros from Finland, how unacceptable is that ):

Rated 5/5. Excellent blog.

That studing time is sick. I can study 8:00 - 21:00 for few days in row but after that no. I want to enjoy my life too
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 21 2015 16:06 GMT
#9
I think this thing you describe is pretty terrible. The saddest part is that most people involved probably see it as pretty normal way of "how things" are, while it is absolutely twisted, pointless and unnecessary and it is just the result of someone thinking that their beaurocratic regulation will make everything better. Whom exactly does it help that they chose future doctors based on their ability to compete in an artificial contest which is not really related to a real medical practice? But there are fucking too many things similar to that and mostly nobody seems to even care, the world we live him is pretty weird.

I would never be able to do anything even remotely close to that, heck I am not even neither willing or able to work 8 hours a day which is considered "normal" because I just value my time here on Earth too much for that (or you might say I am too lazy) and thus I have basically chosen my career path based on the requirement that I will be given the most possible slack while still doing anything that I remotely like. It actually went quite well, but that was really a big coincidence.

Anyway, I was quite surprised by this blog of yours - exactly for the reasons you denounce later on - because you man are bloody everywhere when it comes to TL threads!

Good luck.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 16:54:10
May 21 2015 16:52 GMT
#10
On May 22 2015 01:06 opisska wrote:
I think this thing you describe is pretty terrible. The saddest part is that most people involved probably see it as pretty normal way of "how things" are, while it is absolutely twisted, pointless and unnecessary and it is just the result of someone thinking that their beaurocratic regulation will make everything better. Whom exactly does it help that they chose future doctors based on their ability to compete in an artificial contest which is not really related to a real medical practice? But there are fucking too many things similar to that and mostly nobody seems to even care, the world we live him is pretty weird.

I would never be able to do anything even remotely close to that, heck I am not even neither willing or able to work 8 hours a day which is considered "normal" because I just value my time here on Earth too much for that (or you might say I am too lazy) and thus I have basically chosen my career path based on the requirement that I will be given the most possible slack while still doing anything that I remotely like. It actually went quite well, but that was really a big coincidence.

Anyway, I was quite surprised by this blog of yours - exactly for the reasons you denounce later on - because you man are bloody everywhere when it comes to TL threads!

Good luck.

Yeah it is really the product of a bureaucratic decision. The reasoning of the administration back when they created the numerus clausus, in 1971, was that with less doctors, there would be less medical expenses. Meanwhile, doctors told the administration that there wouldn't be less medical expenses, but just as much medical expenses, with a higher individual income per doctor. Turns out the doctors were right, and now we have (1) a huge deficit in our National Health Insurance's budget (which we would have had anyways) and (2) the slow but steady creation of what we call déserts médicaux, literally "medical deserts", which consists of parts of France (mainly countrysides far from big cities, as well as the banlieues) having not nearly enough doctors (and particularly General Practitioners) to cover their medical needs. Although there are others reasons which factor into the déserts médicaux becoming bigger and bigger.

The worst part in all of that is that in case they'd try to reconsider it, it'll be difficult, because the numerus clausus had one positive effect : by limiting the number of students in the later stage of Medecine studies, it made the average education level higher, because students, being in lower numbers, can see more actual cases and do more real medical acts. Thus the modification of the current system by the administration, should it happen, would necessarily be made at the expense of a lower quality level for doctors in France. Tough choice.

As for the selection being made on completely artificial basis, I think that it's not completely unjustified, although it's terrible to live. I'm myself the son of a doctor and thus I know that they really work a lot (yeah when someone hears about the 35 hours of work per week in France and thinks "omg they're really lazy fuckers", he/she doesn't know that de facto it doesn't apply to every job^^), and I think that the P1 aims to artificially recreate that work intensity to sort out those who can resist the call of parties, girls, friends and alcohol from those who can't. Is it ideal? I don't think so, but there's a reasoning behind it.

And yeah I managed to be quite present on TL, I'm surprised myself d:
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 21 2015 17:17 GMT
#11
But isn't the very reason the doctors work so much in the fact that they are so few? The system chooses people who are most fit for the conditions it creates during the choice, it's a fantastic perpetuum mobile! There is no inherent reason why doctors must work more hours than anyone else, it's all in how the system is setup. Honestly, there is no really a reason for anyone in the western world to work long hours, all of the competition that pressures people into doing that is artificial as most of the work people do is not really needed - yes, doctors' work IS needed, but there would be enough people to do it.

Anyway, the medical system is somehow screwed almost everywhere. In Czech Republic, we have "public" care which is terribly underfunded and there are all sorts of waiting lists, overcrowdings and a general lack of doctors (many local doctors go work to other countries for much more money), the US has "private" system which is the least efficient way to spend money ever invented ... and in the meanwhile, people live longer but unhealthier lifes. This is going to backfire sooner than later, so get back to studying, we are gonna need some good doctors!
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 21 2015 17:47 GMT
#12
It's true as well, doctors working a lot is indeed (partly) a consequence of the way the system is made.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 21:34 GMT
#13
Number 3 on the list? I approve 5/5 viva le france
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
May 21 2015 23:03 GMT
#14
I knew you were having enough tough competition and lack of fun IRL, that's why I'll let you win the Zest group in FPL this round. But next round my sympathy will be over

Seriously, I can't wrap my head around the idea of working/studying 85hours a week. That's more than double than I do! I feel so guilty and lazy now Gratz on being so strong to endure that, and gl in your studies! ^.^
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13970 Posts
May 22 2015 04:47 GMT
#15
I too considered Medicine as a first year university student but quickly realized that I cannot keep up with the workload. Best of luck in the future!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 22 2015 06:25 GMT
#16
Sorry, if you don't shout me out, I can only give 2/5 at most.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 22 2015 08:55 GMT
#17
On May 22 2015 06:34 GumBa wrote:
Number 3 on the list? I approve 5/5 viva le france

Tahnks !

On May 22 2015 08:03 Silvana wrote:
I knew you were having enough tough competition and lack of fun IRL, that's why I'll let you win the Zest group in FPL this round. But next round my sympathy will be over

Seriously, I can't wrap my head around the idea of working/studying 85hours a week. That's more than double than I do! I feel so guilty and lazy now Gratz on being so strong to endure that, and gl in your studies! ^.^

I dunno if you'll really manage to let me win, I started so badly d: and don't feel lazy, it's working half of 85 hours that is normal, not the opposite^^

On May 22 2015 13:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
I too considered Medicine as a first year university student but quickly realized that I cannot keep up with the workload. Best of luck in the future!

Thanks !

On May 22 2015 15:25 ninazerg wrote:
Sorry, if you don't shout me out, I can only give 2/5 at most.

Sorry, Humanity failed on this one ):
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I'll just say that the entire paragraph about what Medicine studies are like in France makes it sounds completely ridiculous and like a plot of some cheesy sci-fi movie about selecting only the "capable units".
I also wish you the best of luck, I admire everyone who is willing to actually do hard work and commit to it, let alone do something as borderline crazy as what you described. Real respect to you.
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May 22 2015 18:58 GMT
#20
On May 22 2015 22:56 ThomasjServo wrote:
Dr. CJ Hype!

On May 23 2015 02:54 Ej_ wrote:
I'll just say that the entire paragraph about what Medicine studies are like in France makes it sounds completely ridiculous and like a plot of some cheesy sci-fi movie about selecting only the "capable units".
I also wish you the best of luck, I admire everyone who is willing to actually do hard work and commit to it, let alone do something as borderline crazy as what you described. Real respect to you.


Thanks !
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