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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 12:51:00
March 28 2015 12:48 GMT
#1
So it's been a while since I was really interested in competitive Dota and I've come to the realisation that there just isn't a team i follow anymore. I first got into Dota when TL announced a team and ever since I've been following TL players and then ex-TL players. Since Fire has disappeared though nothing has really caught my interest. So to change all this I'm taking a leaf from Hotbid's book and choosing a team to fully get behind.

I've also had a pretty strong interest in the old C9 squad since last Summer's Dreamhack which I attended and found completely supporting. The finals vs Alliance with hundreds of Swedes cheering the other way was some of the most fun I've had watching Dota.

Some other teams that I've followed along the way: LGD.int, VG, old DK, SNA, Zephyr

So with the aim to really get back into watching comp Dota I'm looking for a team to follow. The following are the three teams I'm considering.

EG.
Pros:
-Has AUI2000 who I met at dreamhack while he was still on C9 and was really lovely.
-Likely to go far in tournaments

Cons:
-A team that as a TL follower since I started watching esports in SC2 have been the "rival" team.
-EZ mode to support, likely to win lots

Team Tinker
Pros:
-Ex-TL players Qojqva, Bulba, Wayto
-Ex-C9 Pieliedie
-Black^ who seems like the coolest guy and who I've been following the story of since Mouz

Cons:
-Heartbreak may be strong with this team

Cloud 9
Pros:
-Envy + Bone7 are still "old C9" who I supported
-Fata's Puck

Cons:
-EE Drama
-Second place (last year was too heartbreaking)

So I'm looking for people's ideas as to which one to commit to. I will change my flair and maybe write up a little blog piece on how the team is doing every now and then once I've decided. If you have another team you think I should support make your case and maybe you can change my mind.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
March 28 2015 13:11 GMT
#2
Unfortunately I'm right with you on the whole 'Can't support EG' train because I only used to watch Starcraft on TL for years.

Tinker has a lot of people I like but they're also like Liquid_Hero (my favorite SC2 player). When they're on they can take anyone out there (just look at who liquid beat in the group stage of TI4 and then throw Black in the mix), but when they're not put together they just look hopeless to watch. Personally I still have faith, and just cause the heartbreak may be strong initially, it'll just feel even better when they finally win like mad. Plus you get all that sweet hipster cred!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 13:35 GMT
#3
Well EG are playing TT tonight, might have watch that and see who I get behind while watching, I think I'm going to give tinker a try to start out with. I watched them last night vs Empire and couldn't help supporting them. Lets see how this goes.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
March 28 2015 13:58 GMT
#4
PLZ DONT GO EG. Dont besmirch your TL fanhood

And dude, wtf, if you cheered for C9 why did you stop? C9 is a fun team to cheer for imo because their games are always quirky and full of emotion. Also, the best times to be a fan is when things arent going so great so when they make their comeback you're gonna reap the rewards.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 28 2015 14:56 GMT
#5
What about Secret
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 28 2015 15:00 GMT
#6
man if u have to think liek that ur not a true fan im sorry but ur commitment to a team will be worthless
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#7
Honestly Secret as a team never really appealed to me for whatever reason. I respect their players and their ability but i just never really found anything to get behind.

With regards to being not a real fan. I enjoy competitive dota but my problem is that a lot of the teams I've supported have disappeared or changed roster sufficiently that it doesn't feel like the same team. Now I just watch games with only a passing interest. I guess I'm just trying to find something to support coming up to TI because it makes the game more exciting.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
March 28 2015 16:49 GMT
#8
teddy may have been harsh about it but he's right, to root for a sports/e-sports team isn't about analyzing which one suits you the best, it's about the feels.

Don't go for EG though, it's the dark side.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 17:03 GMT
#9
As I've said I've supported a lot of teams in the past and the reasoning is nearly always pretty arbitrary. With e-sports teams there isn't so much of an obvious reason to support a team a lot of the time. Theres no locality or often even a fixed identity to a lot of teams due to how often the rosters rotate. Honestly I disagree, I feel like its exactly about which one suits you best.

Before now I've had a team that I tried to watch every game for and I guess since Fire disbanded I haven't had that. You guys could be right and maybe I just don't really care enough about the scene if I don't have a natural team to follow. But I figured it was worth a shot to get back into it.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1456 Posts
March 28 2015 17:06 GMT
#10
Why don't you just support the team that you like or the team that impresses you most?
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 17:09 GMT
#11
Thats the intention really. I was just posting my thoughts at the minute. I was curious if anybody had similar feelings at points and I figured it would be interesting to talk about peoples preferences in teams.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
March 28 2015 17:51 GMT
#12
Don't choose for C9. EE's self-loathing is annoying as fuck, they struggle to finish games and b0ne7 is very off and on. Rooting for this team is masochistic in so many ways.

TT is good if you like underdogs. They have a lot of friendly and generally nice people (at least as they show to the public). Decent players individually but they've struggled in team efforts in the past. If you don't expect much than it's hard to be disappointed.

EG has a lot of haters but you won't regret rooting for them. The new line-up seems very serious so you can count on them showing up for tournaments. They have a good mix of IdrA-type personalities and nice-guys which keeps things interesting PR-wise. Plus PPD gives really good interviews and they vary their strategies a lot. Universe is a super-hero, Fear has a beard and Aui is a waifu. Can't go wrong imo
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 18:02 GMT
#13
Tbh that was the kind of response I was hoping for ViZe. And I can't help agree wtih everything you're saying. I'm leaning towards Tinker due to the underdog status. I'm pretty used to the whole heartbreak supporting TL in the past

There is always EG to fall back on later in tournaments. C9 used to be my fallback team later in tournaments but tbh the shuffles left them with players that I don't like as much personality-wise.

"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44188 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 18:44:54
March 28 2015 18:35 GMT
#14
I would say C9 as well but even if they have most of the "old c9". For some reason the team does not give off the same feelings. The new c9 is just not the same.

Support EG/Secret if you want a team that wins and if you don't plan on fanboying a chinese team.

Team Tinker , NIP, HR(check out the Dread interview it's pretty interesting) and Burden United are interesting to follow. Empire also seems fine they ain't that drama producing and the team playstyle and drive to win is big.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#15
Actually NiP are another team I have a bit of interest in.
Burden are a bit so-so for me, I'm not a huge SingSing fan and it looks like a roster destined to fall apart.
I'll take a look into HR though, i know very little about them except they've had a few suprisingly big runs.
Empire strike me as really quite a solid team but I've never managed to feel much excitment from watching them play personally.

With regards to chinese dota I feel the timezone makes watching them a bit more awkward. Still I really like the look of the new LGD roster, they are the team I think I like most post-shuffle. VG/iG seem like they've come up with really solid teams as well.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 29 2015 00:23 GMT
#16
EG own, Aui_2000 forever etc

You just have to commit. From ur pro's and cons it looks like ur a tinker kind of guy but that's up to u
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 29 2015 00:27 GMT
#17
I'm an EG fan myself, been one ever since I first watched a competitive game of SC2, but from your post I'd say you seem more like a Tinker guy
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 29 2015 07:41 GMT
#18
Pick a good CIS team and follow them, you get to watch lots of YOLO plays and fun games
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 10:20:46
March 29 2015 10:20 GMT
#19
I try to support stable & up and comming teams as their is no pride in supporting the big starteams. There is less joy in winning a game you are supposed too, but upsetting established order feels pretty good so up and comming teams it is.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44188 Posts
March 29 2015 10:47 GMT
#20
On March 29 2015 09:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
EG own, Aui_2000 forever etc

You just have to commit. From ur pro's and cons it looks like ur a tinker kind of guy but that's up to u

This guy knows . Seems like you want to support the "fun team" rather the team who wins. Tinker is your dude.
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