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ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States714 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 06:35:02
January 20 2015 01:10 GMT
#1
The TL;DR Should Be At The Top So Here It Is Not going to Korea, going full-time e-sports, I'm gonna try hard and stream and create videos. Plz suggest cool Patreon ideas.


Change of Plans

So as some have seen on my twitter/today's cast, the plans to go to Korea are put on hold for now. A lot factored into it, but some of the factors include the frustration with working with recruiters/receiving crappy contracts and the realization that I'm not that desperate. I don't love teaching, I love SC2. I would work a 9-7 job for one, not the other.

People might still say anyone who decides to go 'full time e-sports' is crazy, and they're always gonna be a little right. But the biggest worry I had was not moving to Korea and teaching, but what would happen when I came back. A year, or even six months, is a lot of time to not be working in this business, y'know? I love it too much not to ride it as long as possible. We'll see where this goes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Being Full-Time

There's a few things I need to do. First things first: Treat this like a real job. Of course this is different and the expectations should be different (an 8-hour workday is normal for some jobs, but casting 8 or more hours everyday is a lot different), but studying and practicing is a part of being a caster. So in order to do this...

- I need to stream at least 4/7 days of the week, three hours or more.

- I need to get partnered on twitch, and get a sub button.

- I need to be more annoying to players. No, seriously, I need to ask them questions and get (paid) coaching.

- I need to study replays and keep up with changes in the game.

I'm also looking into making my own Patreon, but I want cool-ish reward tiers. My ideas right now are:
- Thank yous, monthly video thank yous, patreon night where they choose the game to be played, retweets of their choice, a patreon skype group, casting a game of their choosing, Twitch hosting, Patreon-only videos recapping the month, and making art of w/e they want.

And I also need to get a ~theme~. Like a brand. Or something.

Right now I'm trying to keep a weekly schedule on hand for everyone to see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zRZzvHgnxjaBfAAB_z5L_NxwkTcUZkqxB-YG-eLn01I/edit?usp=sharing I'm working on talking with designers, and I have enough replays to study to last...forever.

Content Production

The problem with being a caster is your schedule isn't set weekly. Sometimes you have IEM followed by WCS followed by ZOTAC followed by a BTTV tournament. But in the downtime, I want to work on a couple of 'shows'. I don't really want to promise something I can't deliver, so let's just say they're cool ideas that might pop up on my Youtube every once in a while. I have a few ideas now but am always looking to ~expand~, but the nice thing about YT is that you can pre-record the vids, so scheduling isn't nearly as big of a conflict as a SC2 talk show, for example.

But What About Your FUTURE?!

I dunno, like many 20-somethings. I hope this could turn into something fun and cool and I could make a living off of it. Get my own place, travel the world, say I did something amazing. Make connections, watch this e-sport thing happen. Live life totes casj. I will win. Cheer for me please.

Edit: People making this a big deal makes me so embarrassed like (・_・; ) but also ಥ‿ಥ and (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

****
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
January 20 2015 01:12 GMT
#2
Good luck, it'll be hard to make it work.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
January 20 2015 01:13 GMT
#3
Good luck show good games I will cheer for you
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
January 20 2015 01:16 GMT
#4
You're going to do well I think. It's also really good you're actually going to pester players about game related things[builds,decisions etc] - more casters need to do this.
Try hard or don't try at all.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
January 20 2015 01:18 GMT
#5
Holy cow this is a really big thing. Best of luck! While I am not the most useful person, if I can ever help you with ANYTHING whatsoever, please don't hesitate to ask!
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 20 2015 01:19 GMT
#6
FULL TIME ESPORTS

i hope things work out for you bro
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
January 20 2015 01:23 GMT
#7
Best of luck. Also.. here's the thing. In an event this doesn't work in the end, you can still say that you've tried to do something, which is your passion. And, that is, imho, a good thing.
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England898 Posts
January 20 2015 01:23 GMT
#8
I think when you have an opportunity like this it's always great to pursue it if it's reasonable. Best of luck to you, make your life what you want it to be instead of how others think it should be.
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States714 Posts
January 20 2015 01:25 GMT
#9
On January 20 2015 10:19 lichter wrote:
FULL TIME ESPORTS

i hope things work out for you bro


It's a dumb term because I don't get any full-time benefits....EXCEPT EXTREME LEVELS OF PASSION.

loljk i want healthcare too which is why if I'm SOL in a couple of years it's back to boring jobs
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
January 20 2015 01:33 GMT
#10
On January 20 2015 10:25 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:19 lichter wrote:
FULL TIME ESPORTS

i hope things work out for you bro


It's a dumb term because I don't get any full-time benefits....EXCEPT EXTREME LEVELS OF PASSION.

loljk i want healthcare too which is why if I'm SOL in a couple of years it's back to boring jobs


You know if you successfully build a brand but decide you want a more serious job, the fact you've built a brand actually helps you look for work
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States714 Posts
January 20 2015 01:34 GMT
#11
On January 20 2015 10:33 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:25 ZombieGrub wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:19 lichter wrote:
FULL TIME ESPORTS

i hope things work out for you bro


It's a dumb term because I don't get any full-time benefits....EXCEPT EXTREME LEVELS OF PASSION.

loljk i want healthcare too which is why if I'm SOL in a couple of years it's back to boring jobs


You know if you successfully build a brand but decide you want a more serious job, the fact you've built a brand actually helps you look for work



The hope and dream is that while being full-time caster is awesome, taking a back seat in a more stable yet related field/position is possible and maybe even likely.
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
OhFckYou
Profile Joined January 2015
United States14 Posts
January 20 2015 01:38 GMT
#12
Well I for one am looking forward to it.
Where the lanes are oiled daily
StegOo
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany8 Posts
January 20 2015 01:55 GMT
#13
As for my part I belief that if you try to follow your dream and to something that you really like you will always be more successful than the other way round. Fingers crossed for you and your efforts - I'll definitely support the journey of yours.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 20 2015 02:01 GMT
#14
On January 20 2015 10:34 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:33 ZeromuS wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:25 ZombieGrub wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:19 lichter wrote:
FULL TIME ESPORTS

i hope things work out for you bro


It's a dumb term because I don't get any full-time benefits....EXCEPT EXTREME LEVELS OF PASSION.

loljk i want healthcare too which is why if I'm SOL in a couple of years it's back to boring jobs


You know if you successfully build a brand but decide you want a more serious job, the fact you've built a brand actually helps you look for work



The hope and dream is that while being full-time caster is awesome, taking a back seat in a more stable yet related field/position is possible and maybe even likely.


The administrative side of esports is applicable work experience that some companies may find valuable. Just gotta reach out to the right people

I hope some day more people consider writing for TL as a sort of sports journalism internship
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 20 2015 02:05 GMT
#15
Full time esports... living the dream. Good luck
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
cheeseheadlogic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States322 Posts
January 20 2015 02:13 GMT
#16
Best of luck with the venture, youre one of the great hard working pillars in the sc2 community and you can make it happen.

If youre looking to do more content and casting from time to time, would be cool to have you a part of the Collegiate Star League

just sayin
epik
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10120 Posts
January 20 2015 02:15 GMT
#17
GL! wish you the best
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
January 20 2015 02:19 GMT
#18
Good luck ZG!
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
January 20 2015 02:19 GMT
#19
Good luck in your endeavor!

I'm not creative enough to suggest any patron rewards tho. :-\
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Liquid`MaNa
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland105 Posts
January 20 2015 02:31 GMT
#20
Good luck ZombieGrub. Your knowledge of the game is impressive for a not progamer, hope you will succeed!
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