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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
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November 21 2014 01:06 GMT
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 21 2014 01:25 GMT
#2
It's worth noting specifically about gay panic, that is a recognizable legal defense in every us state except california. It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable.


what in the what
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 21 2014 01:29 GMT
#3
On November 21 2014 10:25 lichter wrote:
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It's worth noting specifically about gay panic, that is a recognizable legal defense in every us state except california. It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable.


what in the what

What the hell is this? Surely that can not be right
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 21 2014 01:37 GMT
#4
"This defense often fails, and has been ruled inadmissible in many jurisdictions"

Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 21 2014 01:39 GMT
#5
In July 2009, Ferdinand Ambach, 32, a Hungarian tourist, was convicted of killing Ronald Brown, 69, by hitting him with a banjo and shoving the instrument's neck down Brown's throat


this is just

what
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 02:00:33
November 21 2014 01:59 GMT
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 21 2014 02:03 GMT
#7
i'm more worried about banjos being deadly weapons
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 21 2014 02:05 GMT
#8
On November 21 2014 10:59 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 21 2014 10:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
"This defense often fails, and has been ruled inadmissible in many jurisdictions"

Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up.


not even that it was tried, it's been used successfully multiple times in the past 15 years

and lichter you can worry a bit less, gay panic is usually used to drop a charge of murder to manslaughter, so no one walks free because of this


I mean, the fact that no one goes free based on it makes it slightly less awful, but still the fact that it even exists has it's roots in bigotry and just feels wrong.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 02:13 GMT
#9
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 02:25:35
November 21 2014 02:25 GMT
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On November 21 2014 11:13 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 21 2014 11:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 21 2014 10:59 Onekobold wrote:
On November 21 2014 10:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
"This defense often fails, and has been ruled inadmissible in many jurisdictions"

Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up.


not even that it was tried, it's been used successfully multiple times in the past 15 years

and lichter you can worry a bit less, gay panic is usually used to drop a charge of murder to manslaughter, so no one walks free because of this


I mean, the fact that no one goes free based on it makes it slightly less awful, but still the fact that it even exists has it's roots in bigotry and just feels wrong.


I think that "feels wrong" is putting it lightly, but I agree

If someone killed me I'd like them to be a "murderer", not a "manslaughterer"

Poorly worded I suppose. Of course it it's horrible. I don't think that's an uncommon sentiment.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 06:34:40
November 21 2014 06:32 GMT
#11

US law never ceases to amaze me. This time in a very wrong way. Next time I get confused about NaDa's body I know where to run after 'slaughtering' him.

p.s. I hope you get over your depression. Getting a job helps in that incredibly. Good luck~
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 21 2014 07:21 GMT
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On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote:

I suffer pretty badly from depression, which is related in some parts to my gender dysphoria. It's not the interesting kind of depression that gives me something to write about either, I mostly just lay in bed and pity myself.


I've been there and done that. I suck. I've just made a commitment to myself to get proper help, are you doing the same?
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 08:52 GMT
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
November 21 2014 10:33 GMT
#14
Good post! I hope for all the best for you and other trans people everywhere.
sephiria
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
106 Posts
November 21 2014 18:28 GMT
#15
Good blog post! I have never heard of gay panic defense before. Really crazy.

On November 21 2014 17:52 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 21 2014 16:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote:

I suffer pretty badly from depression, which is related in some parts to my gender dysphoria. It's not the interesting kind of depression that gives me something to write about either, I mostly just lay in bed and pity myself.


I've been there and done that. I suck. I've just made a commitment to myself to get proper help, are you doing the same?


my transition started with talking to a therapist who I have been seeing since february this year


depending on where youre from, you might want to get a second therapist to keep the issues (transitioning and getting the signatures you need) seperate from the self-acceptance and depression treatment. At least thats something I found extremely helpful.
Good Luck!
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 19:17 GMT
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sephiria
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
106 Posts
November 21 2014 22:49 GMT
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yes I am basically through with transitioning.
I also eventually reached a point where I got the stuff I needed from my endo, but that took like 18 months. I am glad you got there a lot faster!
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 23:23 GMT
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sephiria
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
106 Posts
November 21 2014 23:54 GMT
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I got hormones at 23. Where are you from?
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 23:55 GMT
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 22 2014 00:19 GMT
#21
On November 22 2014 08:55 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 22 2014 08:54 sephiria wrote:
I got hormones at 23. Where are you from?


British Columbia, Canada


Well, look at the bright side, at least you live in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Also, cheap dope!
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 22 2014 00:23 GMT
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 22 2014 00:26 GMT
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On November 22 2014 09:23 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 22 2014 09:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 22 2014 08:55 Onekobold wrote:
On November 22 2014 08:54 sephiria wrote:
I got hormones at 23. Where are you from?


British Columbia, Canada


Well, look at the bright side, at least you live in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Also, cheap dope!


There's an even brighter side, the province pays for any trans-related surgeries I get, such as the 12-20 thousand dollar genital surgery

I don't smoke weed though, it makes me really paranoid and its just generally not fun. I can't drink much either, my meds lower my alcohol tolerance a lot, so I can be completely hammered after like 3 or 4 shots


Well, I suppose saving thousands of dollars is also a nice benefit

And i know quite a few people who get that hammered after a few shots, and they're not even on meds.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 22 2014 00:30 GMT
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 22 2014 00:35 GMT
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On November 22 2014 09:30 Onekobold wrote:
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On November 22 2014 09:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And i know quite a few people who get that hammered after a few shots, and they're not even on meds.


I guess I just hang out with good drinkers then, I have to drink like half of what anyone else does lol

Drinking isn't a competition, it's just for fun. Hell, I wouldn't mind having a lower alcohol tolerance, get drunk cheaper
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 22 2014 00:38 GMT
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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
November 22 2014 05:04 GMT
#27
Good luck with things OneKobold, I hope you sort things out and find a space you're comfortable in.

It's hard for me to give advice because I come to the gender identity thing from a pretty different place, privilege of being a 'pretty white boy' I guess. Means I'm under a little less pressure to conform.
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jowelsgrry
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-10 02:48:29
November 07 2017 18:29 GMT
#28
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
November 08 2017 15:05 GMT
#29
On November 08 2017 03:29 jowelsgrry wrote:
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On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote:
It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable.


Typical lying liberal. When you try and form false arguments like that, it really discredits you and makes you into a liar pretty fast. If you want to promote trans awareness, then go right ahead but I suggest you do it with a sprinkling of honesty because bold, audacious lies are just plain unforgivable.


Did you actually read any of the links in the post? It seems like there have been cases where murder is treated differently due to the victim's sexual orientation or gender identity. Do you have any information that suggests otherwise (if so, please share), or did you just want to call OP a liar for the hell of it?

I mean, bumping a 3 year old post just to call OP a liar seems really petty, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here.
jowelsgrry
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
45 Posts
November 09 2017 05:20 GMT
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On November 09 2017 00:05 TehRei wrote:
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On November 08 2017 03:29 jowelsgrry wrote:
On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote:
It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable.


Typical lying liberal. When you try and form false arguments like that, it really discredits you and makes you into a liar pretty fast. If you want to promote trans awareness, then go right ahead but I suggest you do it with a sprinkling of honesty because bold, audacious lies are just plain unforgivable.


I mean, bumping a 3 year old post just to call OP a liar seems really petty, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here.


Ahh didn't realize thread was three years old. I'm new to TL
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