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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
It's worth noting specifically about gay panic, that is a recognizable legal defense in every us state except california. It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable. what in the what | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On November 21 2014 10:25 lichter wrote: Show nested quote + It's worth noting specifically about gay panic, that is a recognizable legal defense in every us state except california. It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable. what in the what What the hell is this? Surely that can not be right | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
In July 2009, Ferdinand Ambach, 32, a Hungarian tourist, was convicted of killing Ronald Brown, 69, by hitting him with a banjo and shoving the instrument's neck down Brown's throat this is just what | ||
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lichter
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 21 2014 10:59 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2014 10:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: "This defense often fails, and has been ruled inadmissible in many jurisdictions" Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up. not even that it was tried, it's been used successfully multiple times in the past 15 years and lichter you can worry a bit less, gay panic is usually used to drop a charge of murder to manslaughter, so no one walks free because of this I mean, the fact that no one goes free based on it makes it slightly less awful, but still the fact that it even exists has it's roots in bigotry and just feels wrong. | ||
Onekobold
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 21 2014 11:13 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2014 11:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On November 21 2014 10:59 Onekobold wrote: On November 21 2014 10:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: "This defense often fails, and has been ruled inadmissible in many jurisdictions" Important part here, still, the fact that it was ever even tried is so fucked up. not even that it was tried, it's been used successfully multiple times in the past 15 years and lichter you can worry a bit less, gay panic is usually used to drop a charge of murder to manslaughter, so no one walks free because of this I mean, the fact that no one goes free based on it makes it slightly less awful, but still the fact that it even exists has it's roots in bigotry and just feels wrong. I think that "feels wrong" is putting it lightly, but I agree If someone killed me I'd like them to be a "murderer", not a "manslaughterer" Poorly worded I suppose. Of course it it's horrible. I don't think that's an uncommon sentiment. | ||
Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
US law never ceases to amaze me. This time in a very wrong way. Next time I get confused about NaDa's body I know where to run after 'slaughtering' him. p.s. I hope you get over your depression. Getting a job helps in that incredibly. Good luck~ | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote: I suffer pretty badly from depression, which is related in some parts to my gender dysphoria. It's not the interesting kind of depression that gives me something to write about either, I mostly just lay in bed and pity myself. I've been there and done that. I suck. I've just made a commitment to myself to get proper help, are you doing the same? | ||
Onekobold
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Heartland
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sephiria
106 Posts
On November 21 2014 17:52 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2014 16:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote: I suffer pretty badly from depression, which is related in some parts to my gender dysphoria. It's not the interesting kind of depression that gives me something to write about either, I mostly just lay in bed and pity myself. I've been there and done that. I suck. I've just made a commitment to myself to get proper help, are you doing the same? my transition started with talking to a therapist who I have been seeing since february this year depending on where youre from, you might want to get a second therapist to keep the issues (transitioning and getting the signatures you need) seperate from the self-acceptance and depression treatment. At least thats something I found extremely helpful. Good Luck! | ||
Onekobold
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sephiria
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I also eventually reached a point where I got the stuff I needed from my endo, but that took like 18 months. I am glad you got there a lot faster! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 22 2014 08:55 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2014 08:54 sephiria wrote: I got hormones at 23. Where are you from? British Columbia, Canada Well, look at the bright side, at least you live in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Also, cheap dope! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 22 2014 09:23 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2014 09:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On November 22 2014 08:55 Onekobold wrote: On November 22 2014 08:54 sephiria wrote: I got hormones at 23. Where are you from? British Columbia, Canada Well, look at the bright side, at least you live in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Also, cheap dope! There's an even brighter side, the province pays for any trans-related surgeries I get, such as the 12-20 thousand dollar genital surgery I don't smoke weed though, it makes me really paranoid and its just generally not fun. I can't drink much either, my meds lower my alcohol tolerance a lot, so I can be completely hammered after like 3 or 4 shots Well, I suppose saving thousands of dollars is also a nice benefit ![]() And i know quite a few people who get that hammered after a few shots, and they're not even on meds. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 22 2014 09:30 Onekobold wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2014 09:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: And i know quite a few people who get that hammered after a few shots, and they're not even on meds. I guess I just hang out with good drinkers then, I have to drink like half of what anyone else does lol Drinking isn't a competition, it's just for fun. Hell, I wouldn't mind having a lower alcohol tolerance, get drunk cheaper | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
It's hard for me to give advice because I come to the gender identity thing from a pretty different place, privilege of being a 'pretty white boy' I guess. Means I'm under a little less pressure to conform. | ||
jowelsgrry
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TehRei
Sweden261 Posts
On November 08 2017 03:29 jowelsgrry wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote: It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable. Typical lying liberal. When you try and form false arguments like that, it really discredits you and makes you into a liar pretty fast. If you want to promote trans awareness, then go right ahead but I suggest you do it with a sprinkling of honesty because bold, audacious lies are just plain unforgivable. Did you actually read any of the links in the post? It seems like there have been cases where murder is treated differently due to the victim's sexual orientation or gender identity. Do you have any information that suggests otherwise (if so, please share), or did you just want to call OP a liar for the hell of it? I mean, bumping a 3 year old post just to call OP a liar seems really petty, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here. | ||
jowelsgrry
45 Posts
On November 09 2017 00:05 TehRei wrote: Show nested quote + On November 08 2017 03:29 jowelsgrry wrote: On November 21 2014 10:06 Onekobold wrote: It's not murder if you killed someone because their gender/sexual attraction makes you uncomfortable. Typical lying liberal. When you try and form false arguments like that, it really discredits you and makes you into a liar pretty fast. If you want to promote trans awareness, then go right ahead but I suggest you do it with a sprinkling of honesty because bold, audacious lies are just plain unforgivable. I mean, bumping a 3 year old post just to call OP a liar seems really petty, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here. Ahh didn't realize thread was three years old. I'm new to TL | ||
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