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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
I created this video to be an introduction to Starcraft 2 for those who don't know how to watch it and whats going on. Of course, Teamliquid is not the audience, but this is something you could show a friend or family member who is curious about the eSport. Hopefully it will be of some help.   | ||
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ThomasjServo
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 07 2014 12:27 EJK wrote: thats some high level video editing. What program do you use to get the texts in so nicely like that? Hell, I think that would be a great addition for ANY game just to put in small statistics similar to waht dota 2 does It's not particularly difficult. That stuff is all done in post. I could even do it in Xsplit live, though I'd have to prepare them all in advance. This was a case of commentating the replay, then having my graphic designer create the information slates based on a script that I wrote. Each is a separate image. Once I have all the image files. Put the footage into Adobe Premiere. Work through it minute by minute, find the appropriate spots for each slate and insert it into the scene, make sure it's long enough to read comfortably and use a simple slide in/out transition on each. Really easy to make stuff look good as long as you have the right assets. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On November 07 2014 12:38 lichter wrote: I wish more tournaments showed more stats, like GSL used to do with winrates by game time, build preference, that kind of stuff. With how minimal overlays are now there's a lot of space to have transparent slates like that I really want that, because I can't watch starcraft much anymore due to real life things, stuff like that makes me feel like I'm really part of a greater experience. | ||
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Xyik
Canada728 Posts
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evaunit01
United States512 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On November 07 2014 12:04 SC2Towelie wrote: TB supporting the scene with his erect penis :O On November 07 2014 14:17 evaunit01 wrote: Thanks TB! I will show this to my girlfriend. And that's how things got weird :D On a more serious note: Nice video! Everything that makes it easier to explain sc2 to someone is a resource good to have. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On November 07 2014 14:17 evaunit01 wrote: Thanks TB! I will show this to my girlfriend. ^This x2 | ||
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vjcamarena
Spain493 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
You have two girlfriends? That could become problematic | ||
Chill
Calgary25990 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Adept
United States472 Posts
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
On November 07 2014 12:38 lichter wrote: I wish more tournaments showed more stats, like GSL used to do with winrates by game time, build preference, that kind of stuff. With how minimal overlays are now there's a lot of space to have transparent slates like that This times a thousand! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On November 08 2014 04:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Thanks for the guide TB, but it seems like it may have taken less than 24 hours to be completely outdated lol Poor TB... | ||
Kronen
United States732 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
On November 07 2014 12:04 SC2Towelie wrote: TB supporting the scene with his erect penis :O Great comment | ||
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Crot4le
England2927 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RCzaBDn.png) ^^ even Life agrees. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On November 07 2014 14:17 evaunit01 wrote: Thanks TB! I will show this to my girlfriend. Exactly, Thanks | ||
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D1VERSE
Netherlands1 Post
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 10 2014 04:39 Shinespark wrote: Who would watch a 40 minute video about how to even get into watching other 40 minute videos? Apparently over 100,000 people so far. | ||
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MagnuMizer
Denmark384 Posts
And even though its a 40 minute video, it still feels slightly rushed to me. As if you are just giving a quick overview of what the game is about while trying to explain whatever you can that comes to mind. But if i imagine a noob trying to watch this video and make sense of a game they have never played before, it seems like a lot of information comes fast and there isnt enough time to both read the text and hear what you are saying while seeing what is on the screen/following what goes on in the game. So i feel like its better to first give a quick overview of the game, very short. Then go into more detail on things that seem more complex. All while trying to show what is so great about this game, maybe throwing in some clips of epic engagements or whatever, you know, make the video a little more dynamic. Don't get me wrong i appreciate all the work and effort, and i'm glad your love for starcraft makes you want to do videos like this. But a video like this shouldve essentially come from Blizzard themselves, and thus shouldve been made at a much higher quality - more professional if you will - with your voice though! I'm not trying to say the content you produce isn't great in general. But a video like this, with my love for starcraft, i had hoped for so much more. Could i do it better? Of course not. But when it comes down to bringing people in, you have to be so careful. Because of the complexity of the game you might scare potential newcomers away by showing them something that they cant relate to or dont understand. I remember when Dota2 came out and my friend started playing it, he wanted to teach me the game, but the way he focused on all the information about the different heroes and items it seemed too much to handle for me and i couldnt be fucked to learn it all in such a short timeframe, so in my mind i discarded the game straight away. Like a bad first impression. Perhaps this is just how my mind works. Having said that, i also appreciate the futility of this post since you have already made the video and its not like you are going to make another one, but again, with my love for the game i cannot help but be slighly critical on this one. So yeah TL;DR, a great idea, but the execution was not satisfactory to my enormously high standards it seems.. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On November 10 2014 05:37 TotalBiscuit wrote: Apparently over 100,000 people so far. Is that supposed to be impressive? More people would watch a 2 second video of Pikachu saying "pika!" or grass growing. | ||
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
On November 07 2014 11:33 ThomasjServo wrote: Good on you TB. I tried to ask this on reddit and got downvoted to hell for some reason, what exactly does this mean and why exactly do people say this? In USA, west coast I've never heard people say it. The closest thing I've heard is like 'Good for you' or maybe even something like 'godspeed'. I dunno, it just sounds grammatically weird and doesn't seem like it has any purpose/relevance most of the time I see it. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On November 11 2014 08:42 Shinespark wrote: Is that supposed to be impressive? More people would watch a 2 second video of Pikachu saying "pika!" or grass growing. Ah just fuck off. People who put in their time to help out SC2 shouldn't have to deal with pricks like you. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On November 12 2014 01:44 SixStrings wrote: Ah just fuck off. People who put in their time to help out SC2 shouldn't have to deal with pricks like you. My point was, he should have made a 5 minute video explaining the very basics and that's it. Instead he made a 40 minute video that only overwhelms the potential watcher with information when the current casters already do that with 5 tabs of pointless info. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On November 12 2014 04:40 Shinespark wrote: My point was, he should have made a 5 minute video explaining the very basics and that's it. Instead he made a 40 minute video that only overwhelms the potential watcher with information when the current casters already do that with 5 tabs of pointless info. And his point is that your worthless opinion is worthless. Please muster the reflection to weigh TotalBiscuit's contributions to your "edgy" oneliner and decide which of the two isn't worth people's time. Don't bother to reply. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On November 12 2014 07:45 Saechiis wrote: And his point is that your worthless opinion is worthless. Please muster the reflection to weigh TotalBiscuit's contributions to your "edgy" oneliner and decide which of the two isn't worth people's time. Don't bother to reply. His contributions are undeniable, yes. Quantifiable even. ~100k viewers from that video alone. But like I was saying, a 5 minute video of him explaining the very basics would have been far more helpful than an overwhelmingly long video on how to understand other overwhelmingly long videos. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindly defending TB's incredible greatness you would see that. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 12 2014 08:01 Shinespark wrote: His contributions are undeniable, yes. Quantifiable even. ~100k viewers from that video alone. But like I was saying, a 5 minute video of him explaining the very basics would have been far more helpful than an overwhelmingly long video on how to understand other overwhelmingly long videos. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindly defending TB's incredible greatness you would see that. If we could compress what is said in 40 minutes into a 5 minutes video, the world would be different, you know. Try to make a 5-minute video explaining the basics of Starcraft and you'll probably see it would be impossible, or very incomplete. And yeah great job TB (: | ||
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Chylvain
France43 Posts
On November 07 2014 23:11 Darkhorse wrote: You have two girlfriends? That could become problematic Just need more APM (if you know what I mean...) Great job TB ! | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On November 12 2014 08:01 Shinespark wrote: His contributions are undeniable, yes. Quantifiable even. ~100k viewers from that video alone. But like I was saying, a 5 minute video of him explaining the very basics would have been far more helpful than an overwhelmingly long video on how to understand other overwhelmingly long videos. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindly defending TB's incredible greatness you would see that. If that's your opinion, present it as an opinion: "I admire the effort, but I think people new to SC2 would be better off with a short 5 min introduction, 40 minutes might scare people off and beat the purpose of the production." This way it's clear that you're presenting an opinion with some thought behind it allowing for people to constructively argue with you instead of derailing the thread with having to adress your tone. Your opinion might be valid but no-one is going to care because you insisted on being disproportionately negative about something that really requires effort to be negative about. Which means you were probably not trying very hard to create a discussion on TB's format and moreso looking for the quickest way to get some attention. And yes, TB has shown enough integrity to warrant me to defend him blindly even though that's not the case here. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 12 2014 04:40 Shinespark wrote: My point was, he should have made a 5 minute video explaining the very basics and that's it. Instead he made a 40 minute video that only overwhelms the potential watcher with information when the current casters already do that with 5 tabs of pointless info. "Should" Your opinion is nothing more than your opinion. You have no authority in the matter. There is no objectively better way to do this and I make long-form content for an audience very receptive to long-form content. If someone else wants to make a 5 minute primer they're welcome to. I imagine it won't be that effective, Starcraft can be "explained" in 30 seconds, but it won't help the person trying to watch it. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On November 12 2014 08:01 Shinespark wrote: His contributions are undeniable, yes. Quantifiable even. ~100k viewers from that video alone. But like I was saying, a 5 minute video of him explaining the very basics would have been far more helpful than an overwhelmingly long video on how to understand other overwhelmingly long videos. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindly defending TB's incredible greatness you would see that. Yes, it can't possible be that people just disagree with you... Most of the things he talks about makes sense in context. Cramming that information into a 5 minute long video would lack that context and only be MORE confusing as a result. You wouldn't get the clear examples of what he's talking about (seeing the game progress and paused at the opportune moments). Your connection with confusion/being overwhelmed and length are also not a proven fact. Many people get confused by what the casters are talking about, the terms and what all the units do, they don't get confused just because a game is "overwhelming" long. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindingly defend your own incredible greatness of an opinion you would see that. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24237 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On November 13 2014 02:03 gruff wrote: Yes, it can't possible be that people just disagree with you... Most of the things he talks about makes sense in context. Cramming that information into a 5 minute long video would lack that context and only be MORE confusing as a result. You wouldn't get the clear examples of what he's talking about (seeing the game progress and paused at the opportune moments). Your connection with confusion/being overwhelmed and length are also not a proven fact. Many people get confused by what the casters are talking about, the terms and what all the units do, they don't get confused just because a game is "overwhelming" long. Maybe if you thought for a minute rather than blindingly defend your own incredible greatness of an opinion you would see that. He didn't have to cram all the information in a 5 minute video, I'm saying the information that can be reasonably presented in 5 minutes is enough. People don't need to understand why delaying a hatch for 15 seconds is important. They need to have fun watching the game, and understanding will come in time. Which is why I object to TB's excessively long video, on grounds that it will scare off some people, and will overall not help as much as a 5 minute video. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On November 13 2014 05:32 Shinespark wrote: He didn't have to cram all the information in a 5 minute video, I'm saying the information that can be reasonably presented in 5 minutes is enough. People don't need to understand why delaying a hatch for 15 seconds is important. They need to have fun watching the game, and understanding will come in time. Which is why I object to TB's excessively long video, on grounds that it will scare off some people, and will overall not help as much as a 5 minute video. Your posts in here are just so asinine. Here we have a video of completely original content that addresses a different audience than sc2 content typically does. The length of the video serves to allow a new audience to see a complete game of sc2, which often takes 20-30 minutes. And now we have you, objecting to the length of the video (completely thankless and unneccesarily negative, so youre off to a good start) because "it should only be 5 minutes" do you see why youve got lk 5 people in here now, all telling you that youre wrong? its because you are. | ||
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LeeJohnDong
Ireland58 Posts
On November 14 2014 09:42 Aveng3r wrote: Your posts in here are just so asinine. Here we have a video of completely original content that addresses a different audience than sc2 content typically does. The length of the video serves to allow a new audience to see a complete game of sc2, which often takes 20-30 minutes. And now we have you, objecting to the length of the video (completely thankless and unneccesarily negative, so youre off to a good start) because "it should only be 5 minutes" do you see why youve got lk 5 people in here now, all telling you that youre wrong? its because you are. I cant understand how he's getting so much hate.. He's 100% right.. I wanted to show this to a few people, 40 minutes long!? what?! okay never mind then. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On November 20 2014 00:15 LeeJohnDong wrote: I cant understand how he's getting so much hate.. He's 100% right.. I wanted to show this to a few people, 40 minutes long!? what?! okay never mind then. Probably because he is a massive dickhead | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
One very important aspect that is not explained (unless I missed it) and may not be obvious to viewers that have never played the game, is the "fog of war", the fact that the players cannot see what their opponent is doing. It's not chess, decisions are based on incomplete information! | ||
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Ignorant prodigy
United States385 Posts
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