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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 18:28:58
March 03 2014 18:26 GMT
#1
I know that all of you remember my last blog about this sacred FPL group called "no trade".
The rules could not be more simple.


Yet someone thought he would go unnoticed. He was wrong.
100% of his posts are FPL related - this was no mistake!

Okay sure. He joined a total of 70 FPL groups, among them "Sweden", "Canada", "Québec", "Oklahoma" and "Belgium" so one could argue that he is not quite there mentally or has a very interesting life.
But there is no excuse.



I am here to publicly shame "yakmonay" who we let dwell amidst our ranks, believing him to be one of us. We let him wield the sword of NO TRADE but he poisoned our family from within, seeking to destroy us and everything we stand for.

For shame I say, for shame.


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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 03 2014 18:51 GMT
#2
I am the representative of the 1-man group, "LOTS of trades". My group is the enemy of the no-trade group, yet we (I) agree with your sentiments. I am here to say that this man must respect the trades that he is allowed, lest he sink into darkness. He shall repent and leave our sight or be publicly humiliated for all time.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 03 2014 18:52 GMT
#3
Shame on him
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 03 2014 19:07 GMT
#4
On March 04 2014 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
I am the representative of the 1-man group, "LOTS of trades". My group is the enemy of the no-trade group, yet we (I) agree with your sentiments. I am here to say that this man must respect the trades that he is allowed, lest he sink into darkness. He shall repent and leave our sight or be publicly humiliated for all time.


I thought there were two in there last season. I noticed you. We may be sworn enemies but we agree that one has to depend upon one's comrades, otherwise chaos ensues !
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 03 2014 19:07 GMT
#5
“Shame corrodes the very part of us that believes we are capable of change.” - Brene Brown

“Shame is a soul eating emotion.”
― C.G. Jung

Kirsty Eagar
“Shame isn't a quiet grey cloud, shame is a drowning man who claws his way on top of you, scratching and tearing your skin, pushing you under the surface.”
― Kirsty Eagar, Raw Blue

“To be shame-bound means that whenever you feel any feeling, need or drive, you immediately feel ashamed. The dynamic core of your human life is grounded in your feelings, needs and drives. When these are bound by shame, you are shamed to the core.”
― John Bradshaw, Healing the Shame that Binds You
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 03 2014 19:15 GMT
#6
As long as he does not join The Templar in his crusade of error, he is forgiven as soon as he leaves. I do not want to harm him, I just want him to stop harming us.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 03 2014 19:24 GMT
#7
On March 04 2014 04:15 Tufas wrote:
As long as he does not join The Templar in his crusade of error, he is forgiven as soon as he leaves. I do not want to harm him, I just want him to stop harming us.

Sir, I would never harm your beloved group. But it is disrespectful to call my motives in trading a third of my team each week a "crusade of error". Trading, as we all know, does indeed add a safety net when a bad pick occurs, such as Hydra in round 1, but it also introduces a complexity into the game and requires analysis after the initial picks are done.
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 19:34:27
March 03 2014 19:34 GMT
#8
I fully understand its fiendish appeals. On second or any thought, putting RorO and Shine on antiteam might have been a bad idea but how can I betray them ? I chose those hopeful warriors of failure and believed into my choice until the very end. I cannot find any reasoning in betraying my past-self and doubting his intentions. I am sure that everything unfolded just as he intended.
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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 08:37:33
March 04 2014 08:34 GMT
#9
On March 04 2014 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
I am the representative of the 1-man group, "LOTS of trades". My group is the enemy of the no-trade group, yet we (I) agree with your sentiments. I am here to say that this man must respect the trades that he is allowed, lest he sink into darkness. He shall repent and leave our sight or be publicly humiliated for all time.

Hello there. I was with you in that group last season where I made the maximum possible 12 trades (3 trades a week for 4 weeks) and actually got a mention in this article http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442785. Unfortunately, I am not sure whether I can join this round because I have only made 2 out of 3 possible trades in the first week (I really couldn't find any good deals for my anti-team.) Just to clarify, how many trades is considered LOTS of trades?

@OP
I'm with you in RorO anti-team (balls of steel), which is now the 6th highest group! Hopefully I don't find a good trade for RorO, if not I will have to leave the group in shame.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 04 2014 09:47 GMT
#10
That's what you get for accepting dirty yak money
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 11:31:29
March 04 2014 10:09 GMT
#11
What bugged me most in that article is that some unknown hero got the award for best team without trading but did not join no trade. :/

I would like to know yakmoney's thoughts ....."There are groups ? I will join all of them."
Team LR, grubby's mods, Liquipedia, he even is the third member of the "Double Dutch Dragons"

@Pangpootata Oh god I did not even notice that there are only two members in RorO anti-team (balls of steel). If you leave I am the only one left

Honorary shoutout to BisuDagger for joining the "First Time FPL" group just so that he can be first somewhere, sometimes I think this is all just a game to you guys ..
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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
March 04 2014 13:04 GMT
#12
On March 04 2014 19:09 Tufas wrote:
What bugged me most in that article is that some unknown hero got the award for best team without trading but did not join no trade. :/

I would like to know yakmoney's thoughts ....."There are groups ? I will join all of them."
Team LR, grubby's mods, Liquipedia, he even is the third member of the "Double Dutch Dragons"

@Pangpootata Oh god I did not even notice that there are only two members in RorO anti-team (balls of steel). If you leave I am the only one left

Honorary shoutout to BisuDagger for joining the "First Time FPL" group just so that he can be first somewhere, sometimes I think this is all just a game to you guys ..

[image loading]

RorO anti-team Hwaiting!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
March 04 2014 13:09 GMT
#13
On March 04 2014 19:09 Tufas wrote:
What bugged me most in that article is that some unknown hero got the award for best team without trading but did not join no trade. :/

I would like to know yakmoney's thoughts ....."There are groups ? I will join all of them."
Team LR, grubby's mods, Liquipedia, he even is the third member of the "Double Dutch Dragons"

@Pangpootata Oh god I did not even notice that there are only two members in RorO anti-team (balls of steel). If you leave I am the only one left

Honorary shoutout to BisuDagger for joining the "First Time FPL" group just so that he can be first somewhere, sometimes I think this is all just a game to you guys ..

I'm not even sure how I joined that group lol! But thanks for the shout out.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 04 2014 13:32 GMT
#14
On March 04 2014 17:34 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
I am the representative of the 1-man group, "LOTS of trades". My group is the enemy of the no-trade group, yet we (I) agree with your sentiments. I am here to say that this man must respect the trades that he is allowed, lest he sink into darkness. He shall repent and leave our sight or be publicly humiliated for all time.

Hello there. I was with you in that group last season where I made the maximum possible 12 trades (3 trades a week for 4 weeks) and actually got a mention in this article http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442785. Unfortunately, I am not sure whether I can join this round because I have only made 2 out of 3 possible trades in the first week (I really couldn't find any good deals for my anti-team.) Just to clarify, how many trades is considered LOTS of trades?

@OP
I'm with you in RorO anti-team (balls of steel), which is now the 6th highest group! Hopefully I don't find a good trade for RorO, if not I will have to leave the group in shame.

At least as many as possible minus 1 is minimum. So you could still join.
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TL+ Member
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 13:47:56
March 04 2014 13:46 GMT
#15
Well to be fair its not called ALL the trades but LOTS of trades.


On March 04 2014 22:09 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 19:09 Tufas wrote:
What bugged me most in that article is that some unknown hero got the award for best team without trading but did not join no trade. :/

I would like to know yakmoney's thoughts ....."There are groups ? I will join all of them."
Team LR, grubby's mods, Liquipedia, he even is the third member of the "Double Dutch Dragons"

@Pangpootata Oh god I did not even notice that there are only two members in RorO anti-team (balls of steel). If you leave I am the only one left

Honorary shoutout to BisuDagger for joining the "First Time FPL" group just so that he can be first somewhere, sometimes I think this is all just a game to you guys ..

I'm not even sure how I joined that group lol! But thanks for the shout out.


My words might have sounded harsh but thats not your first FPL
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12385 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 14:37:08
March 04 2014 14:34 GMT
#16
how to join groups D:
I am first timer too and already missed the trade T T (but I am doing not so shabby on my ranking, thanks to protoss)

edit:
oh i found out :D
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 04 2014 14:53 GMT
#17
Welcome to no trade ! Our ranks are increasing
Where is my ACE flair
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 04 2014 20:16 GMT
#18
On March 04 2014 22:04 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 19:09 Tufas wrote:
What bugged me most in that article is that some unknown hero got the award for best team without trading but did not join no trade. :/

I would like to know yakmoney's thoughts ....."There are groups ? I will join all of them."
Team LR, grubby's mods, Liquipedia, he even is the third member of the "Double Dutch Dragons"

@Pangpootata Oh god I did not even notice that there are only two members in RorO anti-team (balls of steel). If you leave I am the only one left

Honorary shoutout to BisuDagger for joining the "First Time FPL" group just so that he can be first somewhere, sometimes I think this is all just a game to you guys ..

+ Show Spoiler +
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RorO anti-team Hwaiting!


I cannot believe we are #1 :D
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 05 2014 00:40 GMT
#19
SHUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 16 2014 15:53 GMT
#20
Although I am not sure what he traded, their ranks keep on growing ...

http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php?team=GuiBz&r=19

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