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::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 05:45 GMT
#1
Do you really exist ?
Is existence a presence, or the acknowledgement of yourself?
Like the germs on the top of a surface of, you are. To a "how are you?" You respond; "I am".
But what are you?

•••

Are you the presence in an existence, or an existence in the pretense of the presence of life ?
At the end of the night,
the end of your journey,
will you be,
or will you have been?

We are living.
Not existing.
To a "how are you?"
We think; "how are we?"
But we are not.
We live. Like the essence of the air,
we exist,
but we don't exist until we are acknowledged,
until we are seen.
Does this make us merely a presence?



;
Will you stop existing after we say our farewells?

After no longer being present to me.

or will I?
•••


*
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
March 03 2014 06:25 GMT
#2
Sadly, acknowledgement of self is unnecessary to exist, as I have witnessed firsthand with my aunt's Alzheimer's.

I enjoy the concept of separate reality-bubbles, in which only the observer and the bubble of her perception exist, but that area of philosophy is too solipsistic for my liking. It's hard to think of everything outside your reality-bubble as being subject to Schrodinger's Cat uncertainties, so you have to have faith that your preferred result will be given to you, that the street down the block that you can't directly perceive at this moment does exist independently of your reality-bubble.

As for us, we are the empty presence encompassed in life by a dual nature, making us triple-formed in essence.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 06:51 GMT
#3
I mean to be acknowledged by others, is to exist. Not to acknowledge yourself.
The reality we perceive as real is only a fraction of what others perceive. In that sense, we all do live within other realities.


::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 06:55 GMT
#4
But has that street really existed before you not knowing it's presence ? To your reality, no.

I just met a girl at work a week ago, she was all smiles and it was fun getting to know her. We literally have been working together for over 6 months and I only say her that day. I thought to myself: "it's funny that she's been here all this time, but she only truly were a part of my life once I met her" which is kind of why I wrote this. Things don't really exist to you until you acknowledge their presence.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 03 2014 08:36 GMT
#5
We're food for worms.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 03 2014 12:00 GMT
#6
On March 03 2014 15:51 ::Rhapsody wrote:
I mean to be acknowledged by others, is to exist. Not to acknowledge yourself.




naruto would have a field day with you
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 03 2014 13:13 GMT
#7
On March 03 2014 21:00 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 15:51 ::Rhapsody wrote:
I mean to be acknowledged by others, is to exist. Not to acknowledge yourself.




naruto would have a field day with you

Naruto book of life
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 15:40 GMT
#8
On March 03 2014 21:00 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 15:51 ::Rhapsody wrote:
I mean to be acknowledged by others, is to exist. Not to acknowledge yourself.




naruto would have a field day with you


Uh..yeah. No.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 17:59:46
March 03 2014 17:59 GMT
#9
how do you know he wouldn't. being a only present in a fraction of the total reality you can't possibly know with any degree of certainity
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 19:34:13
March 03 2014 18:20 GMT
#10
You can't possibly disagree either. How you see reality is not how I presented it, but its not wrong .
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 03 2014 18:28 GMT
#11
Everyone here should go read the Discourse on Method by Descartes haha.
User was warned for too many mimes.
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 18:28 GMT
#12
Will look into it thanks
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 03 2014 18:33 GMT
#13
On March 04 2014 03:20 ::Rhapsody wrote:
You can't possibly disagree either. How do you reality is not how I presented it ?


i presented the reality which you discarded
you can't possibly imagine the situation inside of my own conciousness
it might have a colour in it
rekt
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#14
?
I agreed with you?
Can you not read?
How am I rekt?
Is this bait?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 03 2014 18:41 GMT
#15
"How do you reality is not how I presented it?"
i dont even know what this means so i am assuming you are behind contradictory
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 18:44 GMT
#16
I said, you can't tell if I'm right or not.
...
Don't start replying if you don't know what you're talking about.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 03 2014 18:53 GMT
#17
its my reality therefore i decide if you're right
of course i know what im talking about
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
March 03 2014 19:02 GMT
#18
I am a pizza that doesn't scream like a dirty jew.

WHO ARE YOU?
hi
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 03 2014 19:03 GMT
#19
I acknowledge Slayer91 therefore he's right.
The legend of Darien lives on
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 19:32 GMT
#20
On March 04 2014 03:53 Slayer91 wrote:
its my reality therefore i decide if you're right
of course i know what im talking about


That's right, so then where did you get the assumption that I disagreed?
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 03 2014 19:32 GMT
#21
On March 04 2014 04:02 Sponkz wrote:
I am a pizza that doesn't scream like a dirty jew.

WHO ARE YOU?


I eat pizza, therefore you are my food.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:59:52
March 03 2014 21:58 GMT
#22
Nevermind. I have a habit of pressing the post button before thinking, unfortunately.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 02:15:08
March 04 2014 02:11 GMT
#23
Today I wondered what the major accomplishments of deep metaphysical philosophy has been in the modern world, and I guessed to myself that its probably all been a very big waste of time that is just fun to think about.

If you want the best theory of them all, read about the Monadology from Leibnitz (co-inventor of Calculus).

Edit: Found the quote online I heard in philosophy class:

And, in perhaps the wittiest and most biting rhetorical question asked of Leibniz, Voltaire gibes, “Can you really believe that a drop of urine is an infinity of monads, and that each of these has ideas, however obscure, of the universe as a whole?” (Oeuvres complètes, Vol. 22, p. 434)


source: Leibniz Page

Then there are those who believe you can reach "enlightenment" by repeatedly asking "who am I" while you sit in deep silence. Aah well. Too busy working to do any of that...and playing hearthstone

edit: Just want to say I love my goliath picture. Having machine guns for arms is the best!!!
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
March 04 2014 02:32 GMT
#24
On March 03 2014 15:55 ::Rhapsody wrote:
But has that street really existed before you not knowing it's presence ? To your reality, no.

I just met a girl at work a week ago, she was all smiles and it was fun getting to know her. We literally have been working together for over 6 months and I only say her that day. I thought to myself: "it's funny that she's been here all this time, but she only truly were a part of my life once I met her" which is kind of why I wrote this. Things don't really exist to you until you acknowledge their presence.

Cute. Sorry it derailed into philosophical dung-flinging.

On March 04 2014 11:11 radscorpion9 wrote:
Today I wondered what the major accomplishments of deep metaphysical philosophy has been in the modern world, and I guessed to myself that its probably all been a very big waste of time that is just fun to think about.

I want to say morality and religion are accomplishments, but I know morality can be had without very deep philosophy and without religion, and religions seem to be more like hiding places for ancient technologies than a bunch of dudes sitting around a table smoking hash.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 04 2014 05:25 GMT
#25
You guys, I didn't expect such a sick topic to rise all from my bullshit post, I love you all.
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
March 04 2014 05:27 GMT
#26
On March 04 2014 11:32 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 15:55 ::Rhapsody wrote:
But has that street really existed before you not knowing it's presence ? To your reality, no.

I just met a girl at work a week ago, she was all smiles and it was fun getting to know her. We literally have been working together for over 6 months and I only say her that day. I thought to myself: "it's funny that she's been here all this time, but she only truly were a part of my life once I met her" which is kind of why I wrote this. Things don't really exist to you until you acknowledge their presence.

Cute. Sorry it derailed into philosophical dung-flinging.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 11:11 radscorpion9 wrote:
Today I wondered what the major accomplishments of deep metaphysical philosophy has been in the modern world, and I guessed to myself that its probably all been a very big waste of time that is just fun to think about.

I want to say morality and religion are accomplishments, but I know morality can be had without very deep philosophy and without religion, and religions seem to be more like hiding places for ancient technologies than a bunch of dudes sitting around a table smoking hash.



I'd like to think of religion as a way people deal with what they're afraid of, and what they can't do anything about. Death, unexpected events, the unknown. It's the same way some people deal it with other things, drugs, alcohol, etc.
Wouldn't call that a major accomplishment at all.
I think philosophy just comes from when people start being more self aware,
rather than thinking "Eat, work, sleep, eat, work sleep, family, fun, eat, work, sleep" cycle, you know?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
March 04 2014 23:25 GMT
#27
But has that street really existed before you not knowing it's presence ? To your reality, no.


maybe the specific details of the road, but it still exists independent of my knowledge of it and it can still have an effect on me so yes to my reality it exists

as an example if i am a general and i don't know this bridge exists and the enemy uses it to flank my forces to my reality that bridge sure as hell existed even though i had no idea about its existence. it may not be until hours or days or weeks later that i learn about that bridge. still existed to my reality.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
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