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Moving to TLHQ and my years on TL in retrospect

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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
February 12 2014 20:56 GMT
#1
Next month I will be moving to TLHQ in Holland and join Hotbid, R1CH and Nazgul as a full time TL employee. It's quite a milestone for me, a big change in my life as you can imagine. I think for the past 3 years all my lives decisions were aimed at creating this opportunity, even though I had completely different things going on for me by which I mean the struggle with my studies. Now that I'm almost done with my studies it feels liberating to fully commit to what I love doing. And that's working for TL.

I don't want this blog to be pointless bragging about what I've achieved with TL over the years, although I'm very proud with the projects I was involved in. My point is rather to show how a non-english speaker with no skills whatsoever and a rather short history as a gamer can find his place and get motivated by this unique community. To start things off, I just want to make clear that I brought no practical skills coming to TL back in 2008 - some people are gifted writers, some bring their amazing skills in Photoshop when they come here, but me ? I got nothing man, probably still don't... I'm TLs homegrown, this was the place where I developed myself and without the constant support and encouragement of everyone who was exposed to my terrible efforts, I was going to get discouraged and stop trying. But no one who does volunteer work for TL does it for himself, we all want to help, to contribute to this amazing place. You either have this desire or you don't (if you don't and just enjoy TL for what it is thats perfectly fine too). Because of my poor English the only thing that I could try contributing with was gfx. I always fancied myself a creative person, besides how hard can it be to get the hang of photoshop and do the mega awesome stuff people like shiro or fuse or AJ do?

I was a passionate BW fan, an avid SKT supporter. And when one of my favorite pro-gamers BeSt made his deep run in the OSL I decided to roll up my sleeves and make my mark on TL:

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That's the first picture I ever made in photoshop, I probably toyed in PS before but not with the idea to create anything specific for an occasion. I sent this image to Plexa hoping it will be used for the news coverage but as you could probably guess it wasn't. I wasn't down by it though and I kept doing awful shit, but as blogs

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=81011

As you can see ppl were incredibly nice and supportive to me. Even if my stuff was terrible I made it out of love for this damn game and I think people saw that. I progressed really slowly, but instead of trying to copy someone else's great work and in the process create something really grotesque I tried to do what I want, even with my extremely limited set of skills. Each time I've learned something new it was an incredible breakthrough and I kept using the same technique over and over again. This is a path I keep following to this day - I never go for something beyond my capabilities, but instead try to shape simple things, stick to basic principles and do stuff that just... works I guess.

In the following year I found that theres a real demand for wallpapers with our beloved SC stars, even if those wallpapers are bad:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=90425

I liked doing stuff on request, it gave me a reason to practice the techniques I've learned and maybe master new ones, my work was presumably getting used by someone which was the biggest satisfaction and reward for me. TL gfx staff was out of my reach then, but I realized I needed to do more stuff and more frequently to progress, hell it was so much fun too... Thats why I started doing banners for sc2gg.com. Yes, thats right. I don't mean that the sc2gg guys had low standards for gfx, in fact their news coverage was really good and some fine writers were involved in it. It was just that rarely someone within sc2gg will raise from their community forums to do gfx and TL had a larger fish pound. On TL I found a great way to become an active contributor even if I wasnt in staff. I started doing LR threads.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=102476

This was really a great way to keep busy. I would wake up at 6 am on Sundays, I would watch every single PL match for 2 years. Why not make it a bit more special for everyone else doing the same ? The 09-10 PL season was the golden age for me as a fan and the peak of my forum activity. I was raging, I was participating in bonjwa debates, I was a dick to rival players and teams fans and got back the same stick from them. I was a fan. You see, even back then there were the top fans - like Atrioc for OZ and JD and MrHoon for flash. These guys were just as active as me in the forum and they would also do a lot of volunteer work. I always respected them even if I hated their favorite players, outside of the bonjwa threads we got along really well cause we all shared the same goal - doing stuff that makes being on TL a little bit more enjoyable.

Eventually I got staffed after a talk with riptide about leaving sc2gg, TL doesnt share staff. The first project I was involved in was the modernization of the site looks. For those of you who dont remember (shame on you) or if you joined at a later point TL looked pretty much like this:

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This was the first time I got to work on something directly with the important dogs - HotBid and Nazgul. I remember when I got my first PM from HotBid I was so psyched, I would re-read it for a couple of months bringing a smile on my face. These guys alongside Manifesto, FakeSteve, Plexa were my idols. In my eyes they were into this cool thing for so long and had friendships over it for years. Compared to them I was just a student somewhere looking for an escape. While Hotbids PMs made me excited, Nazguls made me very nervious. I would re-read everything I sent him about 10 times. I felt like I was taking from his time making him read my stuff, I still feel like that sometimes But working on the TLs redesign made me find a new passion. More than doing hype posters, LR threads, News banners I like doing web page mockups and designs. There's something beautiful in it I think - creating something practical that people use day after day and is just there to work. I was always attracted by practical design meant to work for a purpose and not to amaze on its own, although I must admit webdesign in recent years can achieve both. I moved to create a whole bunch of mockups for site features that never saw the light of day and never got implemented on TL. Who knows though, I won't show anything here cause maybe one day some of the ideas can get recycled. Back in 2010 I think, I had my first RL meeting with TLers. I was incredibly awkward and out of place but I think all the guys showed genuine interest to talk with me. Most of them - flicky, Pholon and Aesop were devoted to Liquipedia. After this meeting I started doing stuff for them which eventually led to me and Salle designing the SC2 wiki as you know it now:

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I started caring about fonts and color above anything else in my designs. I don't think Ive quite given up on my dreams for becoming a designer at this point, but I came to the realization that color and fonts can create some very nice designs all by themselves. You dont have to be lazy but you dont need to try hard to make something nice. Thats how I came up with the cutest way I found to contribute to TL. I dont think Im a particularly funny guy but I thought I can give other peoples funny stuff a great presentation. Thats how the best of TL infographs came to be:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=154586

The biggest problem in being a volunteer on TL for 4 years is burning out. I was sad to see many great guys and contributors come and go and I was very afraid that my motivation will be gone eventually. I had deep lows when I was just depressed by spending time on TL, but what always kept me going and rebooted my motivation was finding something new and fresh to do. From progamer wallpapers to LR OPs to site mockups , funny blogs and finally PonyTales Ive always wanted to try something new, to find a different expression of my contribution to TL. In retrospect I think I left one too many projects hanging cause I took them up and then left them for something else, but the ones I stuck with got other people involved and excited - like Pony Tales. What was considered a reboot of the pony express bulletin become TLs short lived but glorious magazine. PonyTales brough people like the amazing Lip the Pencilboy on TL. You see, whats great about TL is that its a canvas waiting to be filled up - there are no rules on how to contribute as long as you want to do it. You can have the initiative to create something completely new or you can have ideas how to improve the existing features, no good work will be unnoticed !

One night as I was really really drunk Nazgul messaged me on MSN saying I should leave the booze for a second cause he had something important to discuss with me. Then he offered me to become the TL Store manager. I dont know if it was the 3 redbulls I had with my vodka or the news but I really couldnt sleep from excitement for the next two days. It just came out of nowhere. I was so happy it was like a dream. And I declined the offer - I was so psyched that a dream might actually become true that I was too scared of what can happen. Luckily Nazgul and Hotbid insisted, they had trust in me and I decided to give it a go. The next 1-2 years were a steep learning curve for everyone, we all got to deal with problems we were not prepared for and made decisions on the go. But even if my work now carries a lot heavier responsibilities than preparing a LR thread for SKT vs KT it is just as exciting for me without any care which will one will actually meet more appreciation. As I open a new chapter now moving to TLHQ I hope I can keep my drive and motivation - at the end what kept me improving is not a love for a specific game, its TL.

****
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
February 12 2014 21:08 GMT
#2
grats dude! be sure to ask rich lots of nonsensical and astoundingly trivial "tech" questions, and cultivate your selective hotbid filter. sounds fun, post some pix!
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 21:30:21
February 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#3
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll never forget all the amazing work you did for LR OPs circa early 2010 for me to post. Have fun at TLHQ~
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
February 12 2014 21:35 GMT
#4
Awesome, awesome bloh!

Best of luck!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
February 12 2014 21:40 GMT
#5
Congrats!!!!~~~~~

have fun in holland
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
February 12 2014 21:43 GMT
#6
Keep being awesome.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 01:44:43
February 12 2014 21:55 GMT
#7
You're awesome and I appreciate the years of work you have put in. Keep it up

Also you get to live with the coolest people I've met, I'm kind of jealous, haha.

edit: just out of curiosity, what did you study? If you don't want to answer this, and are private about this stuff I understand.

edit2: actually nvm, I read some of your older blogs and you mentioned Political Economy. That sounds interesting.
Administrator
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
February 12 2014 22:25 GMT
#8
Freiburg is a sadder place without you. Hope to see you at an event soon?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
February 12 2014 22:43 GMT
#9
Despite being a filthy SKT fan, you're a pretty cool guy.

Good luck with everything and grats =]
TranslatorBaa!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
February 12 2014 22:52 GMT
#10
You're fucking awesome and I am extremely jealous
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#11
lucky SOB. I'll be lucky to even ever get a special icon and you get to freaking work there. Grats.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
February 12 2014 23:25 GMT
#12
Always nice to hear a story of someone who kept on going in what he loved doing and didn't give up when shit got down. Sounds like you deserve it all the way. Have fun in our amazingly flat country,
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Lip the Pencilboy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Italy420 Posts
February 12 2014 23:49 GMT
#13
U r for sure a huge plus for the creeps up there, big kudos to you my first friend on TL
Moderator"Ieri ho bevuto troppo, stasera bevo solo Birra!" - DEBO IS MY PERSONAL SC2-HERO
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
February 13 2014 00:06 GMT
#14
I remember the days you still asking for feedback and not really being recognized. Time flies man.
Hf with your new position.

SKT for life.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
February 13 2014 00:08 GMT
#15
SKT is best KT

Good luck at TLHQ, mate!
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 13 2014 00:29 GMT
#16
congrats ^^ you were always a total baller to work with, you deserve it!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
February 13 2014 00:35 GMT
#17
As the first staff member I really ever spoke to, you'll always have a spot in my heart for showing me that anyone can help if they want, and that nobody has nothing to offer.

Congratulations, dude, and don't let Nazgul talk you out of too many vodka/red bulls
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
February 13 2014 00:50 GMT
#18
I'm having an odd feeling of dejavu right now reading this AWESOME STORY!! :D Anyway, congrats mate, you are a pioneer and a hero!

also, pls remind me what your palm trees come from again. It's been bothering me like forever.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 13 2014 01:24 GMT
#19
even if SKT fans are misguided, I still like you
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
February 13 2014 02:04 GMT
#20
Amazing! Congrats!
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