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Startale...Time to worry about this?

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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 07:58:21
December 26 2013 16:56 GMT
#1
I know that looks totally nonsense to most of people.
But I really like the team and Bomber especially, so this troubles me.

Here's something worries me.
1. Bomber's been staying in his home, instead of Startale team house since Dec.12(or maybe earlier, but he starts streaming from home since that day, and is still there currently).
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2. There's an invitational tournament in China in Jan.3~7 2014 called ECL, this tournament is mainly sponsored by Red Bull.
The original post(in Chinese) about ECL(in Dec.10) announced that the invited players includes Life and Aphrodite.
But 15 days later, another official post (in Chinese too) says that it's now MMA and SuperNova instead of Life and Aphrodite.
The tournament's prize pool is quite considerable(10000 USD for the champion) and during that period of time there's no other matches, so I don't see any reason that they are not going. Except something goes wrong with the team.

3. Bomber forfeited the IEM Sao Paulo qualifier. I don't have the screen print but I do remember that he mentioned in his stream chat before that he's going to attend this. And all in a sudden, he forfeited.

4.Bomber changed his battle.net accound ID (NA Server) from "STBomber" to "Bomber" today. .
This is quite weird too because he's been using this for a long time, at least 2 seasons.

I know it looks stupid, and I do hope it's all nonsense since Startale is my favorite team, and Bomber is my favorite player.

Edit: I think this has something to do with Bomber.

According to the player's handbook of Blizzard:
AM/EU Ladder Wildcard: players with 200 wins on the region’s host ladder (“Americas” server for WCS America and “Europe” server for WCS Europe) in this or the past season will be eligible to compete in Ladder Wildcard Qualifiers for all remaining spots without meeting any residency or citizenship requirements.

And Bomber's been playing NA ladder for exactly 201 wins.

****
Startale forever.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 17:07:26
December 26 2013 17:05 GMT
#2
nice detective work.
you've definitely got my antennae up.

also, do not repeatedly call yourself "stupid".
your observations are just as valid as any one else's.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1544 Posts
December 26 2013 17:10 GMT
#3
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 26 2013 17:15 GMT
#4
On December 27 2013 02:10 LightSpectra wrote:
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?

And actually, match history shows that Bomber played some 2v2 with PartinG on Christmas day.
Even if that's only for fun, I see no reason he picked PartinG rather than his other teammates. Just think, that SKT does somewhat need a strong terran...
Startale forever.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 26 2013 17:30 GMT
#5
NO ST NO. I'VE LOVED THEM FOR TOO LONG (((. I hope they stick together and join KeSPA and SPL, this needs to happen.
User was warned for too many mimes.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 26 2013 17:35 GMT
#6
Goddamn i shouldn't have clicked on this D:
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
December 26 2013 17:36 GMT
#7
Life can join Khan and learn how to play Zerg from his superior, Roro.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 26 2013 17:40 GMT
#8
On December 27 2013 02:36 Harem wrote:
Life can join Khan and learn how to play Zerg from his superior, Roro.


Nono, Life can only learn from people that are good at the game ;o
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 17:45:13
December 26 2013 17:44 GMT
#9
I'm not sure.

1: No ST players have changed their Twitter names yet (this has been a very accurate way to tell ahead of time if a team is going down or if players are leaving/have left a team)

2: I haven't followed very closely, but as far as I know they're still playing in the Iron Men Cup as StarTale and I've not seen or heard of any of the ST players reaching out to other teams. This doesn't necessarily mean anything because as we've seen some teams can keep quiet, but you'd think that if a team that currently houses 5 high Code A/Code S players was in major trouble (more trouble than usual), someone would have heard something from someone

3: None of the ST players I talk to have mentioned anything

4: Both Life and Curious participated in the IEM qualifiers. If Bomber forfeited because ST wouldn't be able to send him, it stands to reason that Curious and Life would do the same

Now, we don't have any significant evidence to prove anything, but a lot of this seems like coincidence that's up for interpretation. I wouldn't (want to) worry just yet

On December 27 2013 02:36 Harem wrote:
Life can join Khan and learn how to play Zerg from his superior, Roro.


Fuck man that's obscene
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 26 2013 17:47 GMT
#10
Thanks Zealously, that's comforting.
Startale forever.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#11
I really hope it's nothing...

On December 27 2013 02:15 lystier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 02:10 LightSpectra wrote:
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?

And actually, match history shows that Bomber played some 2v2 with PartinG on Christmas day.
Even if that's only for fun, I see no reason he picked PartinG rather than his other teammates. Just think, that SKT does somewhat need a strong terran...


Bomber and PartinG are probably still pretty good friends from PartinG's ST days, so I don't think this indicates anything.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 26 2013 17:59 GMT
#12
On December 27 2013 02:47 lystier wrote:
Thanks Zealously, that's comforting.

Post reading that I've come out of shock and am now in denial lol.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
December 26 2013 17:59 GMT
#13
On December 27 2013 02:10 LightSpectra wrote:
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?

Last time I heard CJ_Life.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 26 2013 18:00 GMT
#14
hmm i just played bomber last night and he was still STBomber
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#15
On December 27 2013 02:59 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 02:10 LightSpectra wrote:
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?

Last time I heard CJ_Life.


Last time I heard ST_Life
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1544 Posts
December 26 2013 18:17 GMT
#16
On December 27 2013 02:15 lystier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 02:10 LightSpectra wrote:
Makes sense. Not really much reason for them to exist with no GSTL and not being in PL.

KT_Life please?

And actually, match history shows that Bomber played some 2v2 with PartinG on Christmas day.
Even if that's only for fun, I see no reason he picked PartinG rather than his other teammates. Just think, that SKT does somewhat need a strong terran...


I support this because it implies Fantasy isn't good.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 26 2013 18:22 GMT
#17
I refuse to believe anything like this
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 26 2013 18:42 GMT
#18
Bomber is trying to use his law to disappoint KeSPa teams looking to pick up him and Life
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 26 2013 19:42 GMT
#19
Hm, interesting detective work.

Though, if Bomber left his cam at the teamhouse, it would stand to reason that he plans to return at some point.

Do Koreans take a Christmas break? I know some parts of Korea are Christian...
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
December 26 2013 21:11 GMT
#20
Wouldn't surprise me, sadly...
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
December 26 2013 21:39 GMT
#21
I wouldn't be surprised if they downsized Startale a bit, but completely going under seems a bit excessive. It's certainly possible that Bomber is leaving the team, but even that would seem weird, as he's kind of been the face of Redbull eSports for the last year or so, what with that skydiving promotion and all his appearances at their Battlegrounds.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#22
didn't Startale just change their dota roster? if the organisation is going down, surely they wouldn't be contracting a new dota player to their roster... unless sc2 division is going and dota is staying.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
December 26 2013 22:55 GMT
#23
y'all know what this means

2014 YEAR OF ZENEX BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
December 27 2013 01:21 GMT
#24
Ah hell nah! Please don't! Baby don't hurt me
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
December 27 2013 01:56 GMT
#25
On December 27 2013 07:26 emythrel wrote:
didn't Startale just change their dota roster? if the organisation is going down, surely they wouldn't be contracting a new dota player to their roster... unless sc2 division is going and dota is staying.


Probably dropping Sc2, no real reason to have a team in Korea right now, not exactly booming over there.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 27 2013 04:17 GMT
#26
Well, if there isn't GSTL, it wouldn't be surprising for ST to downsize significantly.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#27
I got informed a bit. Let's see.
Startale forever.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 10:21:50
December 27 2013 10:21 GMT
#28
My random guess

Red Bull will stop sponsoring Startale

Bomber will leave Startale

Red Bull will become Bomber's personal sponsor

Bomber will switch to WCS AM

Bomber is the majority of Red Bull's advertising since Life doesn't stream, it's probably smarter and more efficient for them to just sponsor Bomber than the entire team.
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 27 2013 10:30 GMT
#29
On December 27 2013 19:21 Dodgin wrote:
My random guess

Red Bull will stop sponsoring Startale

Bomber will leave Startale

Red Bull will become Bomber's personal sponsor

Bomber will switch to WCS AM

Bomber is the majority of Red Bull's advertising since Life doesn't stream, it's probably smarter and more efficient for them to just sponsor Bomber than the entire team.


Even if it's not the proper time to high five...that'e exactly what I think.
Startale forever.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 29 2013 20:28 GMT
#30
StarTale should've joined KeSPA. =/
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
December 30 2013 01:56 GMT
#31
You were right.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Baadbeat
Profile Joined June 2011
France203 Posts
December 30 2013 03:09 GMT
#32
Well, with Bomber leaving, and and the other facts stated in the OP, I believe there is a chance of ST disbanding... And if by any chance ST disbands, it will mean the end of all the other eSF teams imo...
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 30 2013 03:57 GMT
#33
On December 30 2013 10:56 Aeromi wrote:
You were right.

Bomber's part were right. Now let's see about Startale's part, hope it's wrong but I'm not that positive...
Startale forever.
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