• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:40
CEST 07:40
KST 14:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL19Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)17Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN Can anyone explain to me why u cant veto a matchup The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2. Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) DreamHack Dallas 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Connect with Key Decision-Makers Through Ready Mai Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Monster Hunter Wilds Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 24043 users

Impromptu vs Preparation

Blogs > Kenpachi
Post a Reply
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 17 2013 02:16 GMT
#1
I don't know. I guess this is one of those thoughts that just float around in my head. I always had much greater value for the ability to do things without planning. I thought it showed more skill/talent in a way. If you prepare something, you can just simply get used to doing what you are doing and be comfortable that way. Without preparation, you are speaking off the top of your head or acting intuitively and I thought this gave way to who you were more accurately. But sometimes, I feel like my own arguments are irrational because I'm dejecting a way of thought. Because when you do prepare, your best work tends to show. But it's also impractical to rehearse everything in a day and I feel it loses authenticity in your actions.
Just a thought.

*
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
October 17 2013 02:38 GMT
#2
All of my piano playing is impromptu.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44076 Posts
October 17 2013 02:46 GMT
#3
I prefer being organized and prepared whenever I have the opportunity... I like to consider as many options if possible, and try to choose the best one, rather than just wing it. I've seen far too many people not be prepared for something because they have a "just wing it" mindset and miss out on things they could have had with at least a little planning.

I can be spontaneous, but I'd rather have knowledge ahead of time.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 17 2013 03:00 GMT
#4
Once in a high school, I had to give a speech to be nominated for a state club office (HOSA, if you've heard of it). I was unopposed and it was a pretty Mickey Mouse scenario so I thought I'd give some bullshit speech modeled after Creon's first speech in Antigone (some crap about the ship of state). I didn't really prepare though and for my hubris I lost my train of thought and muttered 'oh shit' in front of about 60 other people. There were some titters but I wrapped it up and no one ever brought it up again.

More on topic, what particular scenarios are you thinking of? In important discussions, I think it's important to go very slowly.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 03:14:11
October 17 2013 03:13 GMT
#5
On October 17 2013 11:38 jrkirby wrote:
All of my piano playing is impromptu.

I want to get to that level!

Yeah, I guess it can also be argued that impromptu skills develop in a way if you prepare enough, right?
Assuming you've practiced to be able to do that >>

On October 17 2013 12:00 Jerubaal wrote:
Once in a high school, I had to give a speech to be nominated for a state club office (HOSA, if you've heard of it). I was unopposed and it was a pretty Mickey Mouse scenario so I thought I'd give some bullshit speech modeled after Creon's first speech in Antigone (some crap about the ship of state). I didn't really prepare though and for my hubris I lost my train of thought and muttered 'oh shit' in front of about 60 other people. There were some titters but I wrapped it up and no one ever brought it up again.

More on topic, what particular scenarios are you thinking of? In important discussions, I think it's important to go very slowly.

The thought arose when I was thinking about how I have piss poor conversational skills sometimes. I just blabber something that implies other things (Freudian slips :x).
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
October 17 2013 04:19 GMT
#6
On October 17 2013 12:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 11:38 jrkirby wrote:
All of my piano playing is impromptu.

I want to get to that level!

Yeah, I guess it can also be argued that impromptu skills develop in a way if you prepare enough, right?
Assuming you've practiced to be able to do that >>



Well, when I first started playing piano, I was forced to take lessons and read sheet music and all that. Then I stopped playing because I didn't enjoy it, and my parents would let me stop. After that I took a music theory course, and started to understand why songs were written the way they were with key sigatures and all that. I started playing a bit again, but this time instead of reading music I just sort of played whatever I felt like. After a while whatever I felt like playing started actually sounding pretty good. Now I play piano whenever I get the chance, and it's all entirely impromptu.
13th Marine
Profile Joined January 2011
United States344 Posts
October 17 2013 05:03 GMT
#7
In my opinion, effective preparation allows for efficient improvisation.
Bomber | BoxeR | Dear | Flash | fOrGG | HerO | INnoVation | Jaedong | Life | MarineKing | Maru | MMA | MVP | NaDa | Polt | Taeja
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 05:42:58
October 17 2013 05:40 GMT
#8
Both are admirable. It's a battle of talent vs practice; hard work beats talent unless talent works hard.

Edit: I have bad conversational skills too, even to the point of unintended double entendres, that sometimes makes stuff with friends super awkward. Sometimes I don't even realize that there even was a double entendre in what I said until days later, so I can't imagine what other people are thinking when I say something like that. I have had people think I'm gay before, and that is probably the major reason. So I'm definitely trying to improve my conversation skills so that others don't get the wrong impression. I'd love to get to a conversational level where I was able to use double entendres with women, though.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 12:22:13
October 17 2013 12:18 GMT
#9
Both are incredibly important, and mutually benefit each other.

Obviously, you can't prepare for every situation (probably not even most situations you expect to encounter in life), but when you are sufficiently prepared you almost invariably perform better than by improvising on the spot. You simply need to be able to do both.

The good thing is, the ability to do things impromptu makes the process preparation/practice much easier and more effective, you able to arrive at the optimal way to do things more intuitively and faster, the rest is just practice to iron out the details. Preparation also helps you improvise, every decision, action, skill that you have prepared will be another tool in your arsenal for improvisation, something you can quickly integrate into your skillset because you have already trod down that path and worked at it.

The general rule, for just about everything, but especially for important things is: be prepared whenever you can, but be prepared to have to perform impromptu where there is a preparation shortfalls (a shortfall which realistically will happen far more often than you being fully prepared for most things you do).
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 02:39:06
October 18 2013 02:38 GMT
#10
Preparation reduces the frequency of impromptu/sudden response. Being adept at executing and proper impromptu acts reduces the impact of uncertainties in your planning and removes unnecessary depth and complexities to it. Both are needed. Both are not mutually exclusive.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 18 2013 02:56 GMT
#11
I love this distinction, and I think life would be more fun if we did everything impromptu as it comes to us. Practically though we would probably be homeless and jerking off, so a balance of both is the best. When it comes to self expression- impromptu is far superior to planning, because it is no longer authentic in the present. When it comes to goal setting and achieving planning is superior imo.
Question.?
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
October 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#12
You need preparation, a foundation to improvise with.
You need the basic skills and knowledge down before you can start to improvise anything.
But yes, non-rehearsed performances or presentations are the most genuine, but are normally backed by a ton of preparation.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 230
StarCraft: Brood War
TY 3125
Mind 80
ToSsGirL 65
Shinee 24
Noble 15
JulyZerg 2
League of Legends
JimRising 725
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K575
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King135
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor111
Other Games
summit1g8140
C9.Mang0433
Skadoodle183
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick779
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 78
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 109
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3757
• Lourlo1074
• Stunt357
• HappyZerGling88
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
3h 21m
Road to EWC
4h 21m
Road to EWC
16h 21m
Road to EWC
1d 3h
Road to EWC
1d 10h
BSL Season 20
1d 12h
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
1d 22h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL Season 20
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.