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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 15 2013 01:26 GMT
#1
Gretorp seems to be quite a fanatic vocabularist. I've noticed that he tends to use more specific words a larger amount of instances. For example, watching Jaedong vs Taeja, he uses the following words

instigate
ravage
facilitate
empower

multiple times throughout the series.

I know all the words except facilitate. After the word "facilitate" was used twice, I googled it to find out the definition and learn the new word. Then everytime after it was used (I counted at least 3 more times), I made sure I knew what it meant and what the context was to help reinforce the new word that I was trying to learn


Granted, these words are used multiple times and on a consistent basis so my assumption is that it is part of his present vocabulary, but it's always nice to learn a new word that can facilitate my speech



Also completely unrelated, I have also noticed tasteless loves using the phrase "the beginning of the end" when the game is about to end and they are just waiting for the player to gg out. It's fun to find catch phrases/words that casters use on a consistent basis hehe

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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 15 2013 01:35 GMT
#2
Be careful. A lot of Gretorp's big words are used in odd contexts. Technically, I don't think any of them are used incorrectly, but it's not necessarily the way the word is normally used, or maybe another word would be used instead most of them.

For example, since day 1 of NASL I have been bothered by his use of "accurate".
"He is able to defend accurately!"
I swear that he originally used it instead of adequately, and then somehow convinced himself that he actually meant accurately. Maybe he really does mean accurately.
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 15 2013 01:40 GMT
#3
On October 15 2013 10:35 Oboeman wrote:
Be careful. A lot of Gretorp's big words are used in odd contexts. Technically, I don't think any of them are used incorrectly, but it's not necessarily the way the word is normally used, or maybe another word would be used instead most of them.

For example, since day 1 of NASL I have been bothered by his use of "accurate".
"He is able to defend accurately!"
I swear that he originally used it instead of adequately, and then somehow convinced himself that he actually meant accurately. Maybe he really does mean accurately.

Oh I am not making a thread about Gretorp using these words in the BEST context OR the usage of correct grammar I will not get started on that....

Merely I am just pointing out that he is bringing to my attention words that I usually don't get to hear people say. Another of my favorite pickups was the word "vivacious" from an episode of The Office
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 15 2013 02:03 GMT
#4
For the love of god read more! Nothing is better for improving your vocabulary. I'm not talking about reading more threads on TL or more stuff on the internet either...

I'm always flabbergasted by the fact that my vocabulary is far superior than the majority of my peers simply due to the fact that I read a fair bit as a child. I'm not talking about dry works of "great" literature either just whatever you find fun to read, just getting yourself reading more tends to open up your tastes to bigger and better things.

It's good that your finding other sources to help improve your vocab, but still there's just no comparison to reading more. Just my 2 cents.
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 15 2013 02:22 GMT
#5
On October 15 2013 11:03 Tictock wrote:
For the love of god read more! Nothing is better for improving your vocabulary. I'm not talking about reading more threads on TL or more stuff on the internet either...

I'm always flabbergasted by the fact that my vocabulary is far superior than the majority of my peers simply due to the fact that I read a fair bit as a child. I'm not talking about dry works of "great" literature either just whatever you find fun to read, just getting yourself reading more tends to open up your tastes to bigger and better things.

It's good that your finding other sources to help improve your vocab, but still there's just no comparison to reading more. Just my 2 cents.

I see a lot of new words when I read, but they just don't seem to stick in my head let alone I really dislike looking up the definition of a new word everytime I come across one mid sentence, it kinda disrupts the whole reading aspect
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BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 02:47:27
October 15 2013 02:36 GMT
#6
On October 15 2013 11:03 Tictock wrote:
For the love of god read more! Nothing is better for improving your vocabulary. I'm not talking about reading more threads on TL or more stuff on the internet either...

I'm always flabbergasted by the fact that my vocabulary is far superior than the majority of my peers simply due to the fact that I read a fair bit as a child. I'm not talking about dry works of "great" literature either just whatever you find fun to read, just getting yourself reading more tends to open up your tastes to bigger and better things.

It's good that your finding other sources to help improve your vocab, but still there's just no comparison to reading more. Just my 2 cents.


Well to their defense, once you're done with high school and college applications, there's hardly any motivation nor need for one to expand their vocabulary on his or her own. If one wants to convey an idea and he or she already knows the word that nearly communicates it, then that's enough; no need to learn other words that have similar definitions. Else most could probably just describe it in phrases.

Certainly having larger vocabulary gives you more options to fine tune what you want to say, but one can easily function and socialize without such fine tuning in everyday life. It's obviously critical in areas such as law, debates, and literature/language focused occupations, but for the most part, we can easily carry on with our life from the words we already knew back in high school.

I say "larger" vocabulary explicitly as it doesn't mean you have superior vocabulary: the person with the latter not only knows the words themselves but also the context these words should be used that makes each unique from other similar words while the former is simply a walking thesaurus.

Besides the lack of motivation, you have to consider the environment a person is in that influences their level of vocabulary. I'd imagine if you put a person in a small room full of high school juniors high on caffeine and self-doubt who have yet to take the SATs or write their college application, then that person will probably come out knowing more words than an average college student. If no one that you work or hang around with knows the word "pathos", then most likely you won't bother to learn and remember it either lest you sound like a smartass and no one understands you.

I mean, take for example you. Because you read material that sometimes use vocabulary that you don't know, you're compelled to learn those words in order to better understand the material. Other people can lead other lives that doesn't involve reading such materials. I wouldn't and shouldn't be so "flabbergasted" if their vocabulary bank/skills is lacking compared to mine.

It's only when people use the words like "ironic" or "literally" either as a wrong meaning or context that makes me want to punch their face.
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 15 2013 02:48 GMT
#7
On October 15 2013 11:36 BirdKiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 11:03 Tictock wrote:
For the love of god read more! Nothing is better for improving your vocabulary. I'm not talking about reading more threads on TL or more stuff on the internet either...

I'm always flabbergasted by the fact that my vocabulary is far superior than the majority of my peers simply due to the fact that I read a fair bit as a child. I'm not talking about dry works of "great" literature either just whatever you find fun to read, just getting yourself reading more tends to open up your tastes to bigger and better things.

It's good that your finding other sources to help improve your vocab, but still there's just no comparison to reading more. Just my 2 cents.


Well to their defense, once you're done with high school and college applications, there's hardly any motivation nor need for one to expand their vocabulary on his or her own. If one wants to convey an idea and he or she already knows the word that nearly communicates it, then that's enough; no need to learn other words that have similar definitions. Else most could probably just describe it in phrases.

Certainly having larger vocabulary gives you more options to fine tune what you want to say, but one can easily function and socialize without such fine tuning in everyday life. It's obviously critical in areas such as law, debates, and literature/language focused occupations, but for the most part, we can easily carry on with our life from the words we already knew back in high school.

I say "larger" vocabulary explicitly as I don't believe that knowing more words mean you have superior vocabulary: the person with the latter not only knows the words themselves but also the context these words should be used that makes each unique from other similar words while the former is simply a walking thesaurus.

Besides the lack of motivation, you have to consider the environment a person is in that influences their level of vocabulary. I'd imagine if you put a person in a small room full of high school juniors high on caffeine and self-doubt who have yet to take the SATs or write their college application, then that person will probably come out knowing more words than an average college student. If no one that you work or hang around with knows the word "pathos", then most likely you won't bother to learn and remember it either lest you sound like a smartass and no one understands you.

I mean, take for example you. Because you read material that sometimes use vocabulary that you don't know, you're compelled to learn those words in order to better understand the material. Other people can lead other lives that doesn't involve reading such materials. I wouldn't and shouldn't be so "flabbergasted" if their vocabulary bank/skills is lacking compared to mine.

It's only when people use the words like "ironic" or "literally" either as a wrong meaning or context that makes me want to punch their face.

My personal motivation to improve my vocabulary is to use the most precise word with color available when I want to say something. For example, one of my favorite new words learned this year is "myriad", heard it in a song then read it in a book later in the year.

So instead of saying like "that's a lot of _____" I have the option to say "that's a myriad of ______" presuming ofcourse, that the social situation is proper to use myriad in the first place (talking with friends vs talking to a teacher)
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 15 2013 02:51 GMT
#8
Now if he could just stop misusing adjectives/adverbs every other sentence.
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Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
October 15 2013 04:07 GMT
#9
I wish gretorp would call things poo a bit more. I'd like a cheap giggle.

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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
October 15 2013 09:26 GMT
#10
are you a native English speaker?

You seriously hadn't come across the word 'facilitate'?

Damn, you definitely need to read more o.O

Although I myself came across a word I hadn't clocked before or at least had forgotten about - exiguous. Meaning tiny.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 15 2013 13:20 GMT
#11
^ Those words look pretty normal :O
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
October 15 2013 13:40 GMT
#12
Gretorp helping the adolescent starcraft player with their vocab.

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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 15 2013 14:07 GMT
#13
Why you guys hating on OP/Gretorp so much?

Anyway that's good for you OP. I sign up for dictionary.com 's word of the day. Learn a new word everyday!
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
October 15 2013 14:11 GMT
#14
Read a book dawg. There's like fucking tons of words and shit in there, all in context and with supporting themes.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 15 2013 17:07 GMT
#15
On October 15 2013 10:35 Oboeman wrote:
Be careful. A lot of Gretorp's big words are used in odd contexts. Technically, I don't think any of them are used incorrectly, but it's not necessarily the way the word is normally used, or maybe another word would be used instead most of them.

For example, since day 1 of NASL I have been bothered by his use of "accurate".
"He is able to defend accurately!"
I swear that he originally used it instead of adequately, and then somehow convinced himself that he actually meant accurately. Maybe he really does mean accurately.


Isn't Gretorp a pretty decent chess player? To defend accurately is a common expression in chess. It refers to situations where you need a series of specific (accurate) moves to defend and playing based on general themes or just reacting to immediate threats would lead to disaster.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
October 15 2013 17:20 GMT
#16
Read some books from the 1800s, you'll be speaking like a Harvard professor in no time.
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
October 15 2013 21:50 GMT
#17
On October 15 2013 10:35 Oboeman wrote:
Be careful. A lot of Gretorp's big words are used in odd contexts. Technically, I don't think any of them are used incorrectly, but it's not necessarily the way the word is normally used, or maybe another word would be used instead most of them.

For example, since day 1 of NASL I have been bothered by his use of "accurate".
"He is able to defend accurately!"
I swear that he originally used it instead of adequately, and then somehow convinced himself that he actually meant accurately. Maybe he really does mean accurately.

Yep, I also noticed the really odd usage and it reminded me of Vizzini from Princess Bride xD.
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Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
October 16 2013 03:30 GMT
#18
English is not my first language and even I know these words >.<

You really should read more, OP.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 16 2013 19:00 GMT
#19
I have to know, was you born in an English speaking country, or just don't have anybody around to speak English with?
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 16 2013 19:43 GMT
#20
On October 17 2013 04:00 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I have to know, was you born in an English speaking country, or just don't have anybody around to speak English with?

I just don't read books.
I have gradually accelerated the pace of literary absorption in lieu of amassing a larger literary extension of my cerebellum
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Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
October 16 2013 22:24 GMT
#21
Are you sure you used "in lieu" correctly ?
geiko.813 (EU)
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 16 2013 23:10 GMT
#22
On October 17 2013 07:24 Geiko wrote:
Are you sure you used "in lieu" correctly ?

crap, actually now that I look at it no I am not sure
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 17 2013 14:17 GMT
#23
Haha. I'll just presume you are young then. Don't worry, as you grow older, you will naturally absorb and extend your vocabulary.

Little advice, vocabulary is in how you use it. Communication is more important than gibberish. What you just wrote might sound impressive, but doesn't make any sense. Even if you meant for "in lieu" for "for the purposes of", it doesn't make sense. Try cerebrum, instead of cerebellum.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:57:14
October 17 2013 19:52 GMT
#24
Actually what he wrote doesn't sound impressive. It sounds silly. Don't use words you don't know. You might've read up on the definition of a word in a dictionary. But depending on context it can still sound out of place. Generally, you also don't want to use words which aren't used often because this will make it harder for the reader to understand, unless it has a more precise meaning/connotationfor the particular context in which you are using it, then go ahead.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
October 17 2013 23:57 GMT
#25
This thread is hilarious. Just read more books.
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 18 2013 01:19 GMT
#26
On October 16 2013 02:07 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 10:35 Oboeman wrote:
Be careful. A lot of Gretorp's big words are used in odd contexts. Technically, I don't think any of them are used incorrectly, but it's not necessarily the way the word is normally used, or maybe another word would be used instead most of them.

For example, since day 1 of NASL I have been bothered by his use of "accurate".
"He is able to defend accurately!"
I swear that he originally used it instead of adequately, and then somehow convinced himself that he actually meant accurately. Maybe he really does mean accurately.


Isn't Gretorp a pretty decent chess player? To defend accurately is a common expression in chess. It refers to situations where you need a series of specific (accurate) moves to defend and playing based on general themes or just reacting to immediate threats would lead to disaster.

you are probably right about this
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12539 Posts
October 18 2013 02:26 GMT
#27
Having a larger vocab library is important because once you go to work, when you talk to your boss or clients or colleagues, you will stand out from the rest.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 18 2013 02:33 GMT
#28
Those aren't really complex words lol
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