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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 14 2013 17:01 GMT
#41
The game isn't "balanced" at all but there are people that find ways to win big(ish) tourneys with a majority of the races. There is something like 11 races and 3x that more in factions / variations of some of the races (mostly Space marines). It's kind of like fighting games in that there certainly are tiers to the races but the lowest tier still appear and can do some work. 6th edition is usually considered a bad edition from what I read/see but each new codex and addendum is working in the right direction.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 19:06:59
October 14 2013 18:48 GMT
#42
Check NOVA results incontrol. You will see a pattern there, and no new codex is changing it, every one of them is trumping already functional army lists severely gimping variety (and i hate the term codex creep and had been against it for a long long time, but certainly it has been that way with eldar tau and sm).

Anyways, i am too negative right now about 40k (had been playing since 2edition, you can guess how invested i had been on this game), so i will quit posting in this blogpost to shit on 40k, apologize for any inconvenience because i can bet some of you are still having a lot of fun with it, and the more power to you. I will just answer build specific or tactics if you have any doubt, i already wrote up answers to your questions in the first page

Cheers.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
October 15 2013 02:20 GMT
#43
Well, the balance doesn't really matter, every competitive player has about 6 lists if not more that he plays. It's all about player skill and match up knowledge. It's the same thing in warmahordes, Heavy Gear and battletech.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2013 02:50 GMT
#44
For sure tau, eldar and daemons are the most winning races atm with some appearances from grey knights and the allied forces obv of chaos/daemons and tau/eldar.

That said in the bay area we still see some other races placing highly and doing ok. The game is NOT balanced of course.. and various editions piss of X player with X race but I think it is "close" enough that I can as a Tyranid player go into this and think that with good knowledge and execution I can be fine (also a lot of luck!). Going to have fun Excited about the new codex because the rumors are a lot of buffs for Tyranids (better anti air, some buffs to the big bugs like invul saves and tyranid specific warlord traits/psyonic powers).
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 07:32:08
October 15 2013 07:19 GMT
#45

Hey guys! I commissioned www.frontlinegaming.org to paint my Tyranids army and it is nearly complete.

Hi. Not a good timing, since they release a new codex in January 2014 and your army list may become not competitive or even downright illegal If I was you I wouldn't worry much about the questions you asked until I see the new codex. Hell, I already stopped theorycrafting for my Imperial Guard even if they get rereleased only in April.

Not sure why you call 6ed bad, I like almost every change they made, with the exception of totally random charge range. Overwatch? Awesome. Better balanced vehicles? Awesome, got tired of meltavets already. Flyers? Ummm... they are OK I guess... Missions? Good, with an exception of relic, I hate that one. Removing models closest to the fire source? Awesome!

What don't you like about 6th?
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2013 08:02 GMT
#46
On October 15 2013 16:19 Sejanus wrote:
Show nested quote +

Hey guys! I commissioned www.frontlinegaming.org to paint my Tyranids army and it is nearly complete.

Hi. Not a good timing, since they release a new codex in January 2014 and your army list may become not competitive or even downright illegal If I was you I wouldn't worry much about the questions you asked until I see the new codex. Hell, I already stopped theorycrafting for my Imperial Guard even if they get rereleased only in April.

Not sure why you call 6ed bad, I like almost every change they made, with the exception of totally random charge range. Overwatch? Awesome. Better balanced vehicles? Awesome, got tired of meltavets already. Flyers? Ummm... they are OK I guess... Missions? Good, with an exception of relic, I hate that one. Removing models closest to the fire source? Awesome!

What don't you like about 6th?


I own more than just a specific army list lol.. I have all the models 3-4x over and then 30-40 each of terma/horma and genestealers. Thanks for your concern though!
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
October 15 2013 08:22 GMT
#47
I have all the models 3-4x over and then 30-40 each of terma/horma and genestealers.


Good timing, then! :D
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 09:38:00
October 15 2013 09:37 GMT
#48
I play dark eldar. im in constant pain.

jokes aside, i have a decent 1850 points list, but that everyones now fielding 3+ fliers per FOC is killing me.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
October 15 2013 14:33 GMT
#49
Yep the nid dex is around the corner. I am actually waiting for it to see if i give the game another try later on, since i left after the tau codex (i played tau). But i actually hope you can play with shit tons of hormagants, raveners and the like :D
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
October 17 2013 17:37 GMT
#50
play any fantasy as well? I never played 40k but I loved my skaven
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#51
Personally I think Genestealers (even Ymgarl) are in a bit of an awkward spot right now, may want to repurpose that elite slot. Venomthropes are good units to cover your back shooty line or even move with your Termi/Tervi blob.

But yeah, with the new Codex in a couple months it's a bit iffy altogether, meta might shift soon anyway
It's your boy Guzma!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#52
Yeah I just swapped them out. In my first two play test games they didn't come in at impactful times and one of the instances they did damn near nothing haha. Cool in theory I guess!

my list dropped 1 tervigon/ymgarls and instead put in a trygon prime and 20 hormagants

I also dropped 1 flyrant and I am trying out a Swarmlord
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2013 22:28 GMT
#53
Are you running Tyrant Guard with your Swarmlord? It's a bit risky to footslog him without support.
It's your boy Guzma!
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 23:24:58
October 17 2013 23:21 GMT
#54
On October 18 2013 06:55 iNcontroL wrote:
Yeah I just swapped them out. In my first two play test games they didn't come in at impactful times and one of the instances they did damn near nothing haha. Cool in theory I guess!

my list dropped 1 tervigon/ymgarls and instead put in a trygon prime and 20 hormagants

I also dropped 1 flyrant and I am trying out a Swarmlord

The Swarmlord is kick ass, only unit in the game that can one shot Dragowing haha
Also, TL really needs an official Warhammer/Wargaming thread.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
October 18 2013 08:15 GMT
#55
On October 18 2013 08:21 .AK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 06:55 iNcontroL wrote:
Yeah I just swapped them out. In my first two play test games they didn't come in at impactful times and one of the instances they did damn near nothing haha. Cool in theory I guess!

my list dropped 1 tervigon/ymgarls and instead put in a trygon prime and 20 hormagants

I also dropped 1 flyrant and I am trying out a Swarmlord

The Swarmlord is kick ass, only unit in the game that can one shot Dragowing haha
Also, TL really needs an official Warhammer/Wargaming thread.


I'd make one, but I have no idea about it :D.
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 09:08:58
October 18 2013 09:08 GMT
#56

Also, TL really needs an official Warhammer/Wargaming thread.

Something similar to LoL forums
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 18 2013 15:12 GMT
#57
If you want to play competitively, why didn't you pick either deathwing or black templars then?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#58
On October 19 2013 00:12 amazingxkcd wrote:
If you want to play competitively, why didn't you pick either deathwing or black templars then?


I'm guessing you don't play atm? Neither of those armies are the top tier.. but responding on a more broad level "because I can"
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#59
Have you considered streaming your in house matches if you play at home?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 19 2013 06:05 GMT
#60
Did you pick tyrannid for the zerg connection lol

Used to play this game religiously when I was a teen, then stopped after finding starcraft.

Was never competitive because you need a complete army list to compete, and the important stuff all cost too much $$ for a teenager.
Rillanon.au
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