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??? wait what? something I'm missing here?
HP's Fall from Grace - Page 3
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
??? wait what? something I'm missing here? | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
Closest I can think of is the little nib mouse thing in the middle of the keyboard. Didnt know there were laptops that still used that though. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On August 05 2013 04:34 TheRabidDeer wrote: Closest I can think of is the little nib mouse thing in the middle of the keyboard. Didnt know there were laptops that still used that though. Ohh right the pointing stick. Yeah I'm pretty sure thinkpads still have those :p | ||
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Loser777
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And some food for the trolls: I use a Thinkpad because I like the design. I usually turn the trackpad off because I can't be bothered to take my hands off the homerow and use the trackpoint exclusively. Please continue to enjoy typing on your chiclet keyboards. It's sad that this thread so quickly devolved into a "I don't like X computer manufacturer because I used Y product and I think it sucked". | ||
thedeadhaji
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On August 05 2013 06:30 Loser777 wrote: And some food for the trolls: I use a Thinkpad because I like the design. I usually turn the trackpad off because I can't be bothered to take my hands off the homerow and use the trackpoint exclusively. Please continue to enjoy typing on your chiclet keyboards. . Loved my X series Thinkpads that I used throughout college and grad school and adored the trackpoint (no other model ever had nearly as good a trackpoint as the Thinkpads). The component quality has degraded a bit in the Lenovo days (in particular the keyboard and the memory) so I'm on the fence atm since the RAM on my last Thinkpad (2007) died after a year and the battery died after 2 years (I think this was part of the faulty batteries shipped from Sony back in the day). If I ever use a Windows machine for work again (and I don't have to pay for it) it'll definitely be a Thinkpad, probably a T series. | ||
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Race is Terran
United States382 Posts
I have faith in that woman who is the CEO though, forget her name | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9169 Posts
On August 03 2013 16:01 Jibba wrote: The title made me so worried for a second. :O Yeah, I thought HawaiianPig got in trouble. On August 04 2013 15:21 HawaiianPig wrote: It's okay everyone. I'm doing fine. I'll rebound soon enough.  and on topic, HP has been on the lowest tier for consumer electronics since at least the tenure of Meg Whitman, the ex-eBay CEO | ||
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Race is Terran
United States382 Posts
On August 05 2013 09:09 itsjustatank wrote: Yeah, I thought HawaiianPig got in trouble. and on topic, HP has been on the lowest tier for consumer electronics since at least the tenure of Meg Whitman, the ex-eBay CEO how is that fair, to pin that stat on the CEO when global macroeconomic trends suggest everyone is suffering | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9169 Posts
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woreyour
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
With that being said, their PSG division is still very strong in the business market. In Australia, 9 out of 10 computers for business are still HP. Lenovo is just seen as that ugly brand from China, no one gives a toss about how it was IBM or not. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Womwomwom
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On August 06 2013 22:01 haduken wrote: HP has long stopped being any kinda of technology company, they get their box designed and made by some mob in china/taiwan and then they sell it in the west. With that being said, their PSG division is still very strong in the business market. In Australia, 9 out of 10 computers for business are still HP. Lenovo is just seen as that ugly brand from China, no one gives a toss about how it was IBM or not. No one gives a toss about Lenovo's legacy because the only place where its remotely related to IBM is in the United States. Over there, Thinkpads still go through IBM if you need post-sales service...IIRC you have to register on IBM's website to lodge a support ticket. Elsewhere, you get very nice laptops but the service/turnaround is outstandingly dreadful. HP and Dell's service in these areas are miles better than Lenovo so obviously no one cares about jumping ship. On August 04 2013 12:01 thedeadhaji wrote: didn't HP completely exit the phone and tablet business? they've even already made webos open source. pretty sure no new "mobile" device has come from them since the 2011 touchpad They did but they're jumping back in because they're between a rock and a hard place. They've got a few Android "me too" tablets on the market right now which look and feel exactly the same as the original Nexus 7 (that is to say, cheap and cheerful but not much else). The 7" HP Slate like $150 at JB Hi Fi, a consumer electronics store in Australia. Meg Whitman's mentioned a few times that they must offer portable smart devices like smartphones and tablets. Also: WebOS hasn't really been open sourced since HP still owns most of the underlying patents and cloud bullshit associated with WebOS and LG now owns the overarching OS to possibly shove in their smart TVs. To me, HP died the day they got rid of Agilent. They had an awesome division that had stable profits, had awesome R&D and products that didn't suck. So HP did the smart thing and spun it off. Without Agilent, what is HP besides a company that sells rubbish consumer electronics, scientific calculators and decent business hardware? Really, the story of HP has been a story of abysmal leadership and failed empire building. Carly Fiorina and Mark Hurd spent most of their time at HP to change it to something larger and they ultimately destroyed the culture of the company by spinning off anything good, buying questionable companies and cutting costs/wages like mad. When you can't cut costs anymore and mobile devices have destroyed your main consumer electronics market, what can you do? The guy from SAP tried to buck the trend and turn it into IBM but that's easier said then done...who are you going to sell your consumer computer division to in a post-PC age? If you want to know why they've strayed from their roots, Carly Fiorina is where you should look. The story is exactly the same with Sony in the 2000s. | ||
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