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G-1 Afterthoughts

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Korok
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
80 Posts
May 25 2013 20:41 GMT
#1
G-1 'fresh' post-elimination thoughts:

If there's anything to be taken from this tournament, it's that teams in the Eastern scene are about as volatile as Western teams. It would be unfair to say that any team in this tournament besides Alliance and LGD showed their potential. Alliance's opening game against DK was absolutely brilliant, and despite it being their shakiest (as told by [A] themselves to me) it set the tempo and struck fear in the Eastern teams (Eastern teams asking us for advice against Alliance/taking notes on our game vs. them). IMHO Alliance has been on their 'A-game' (hehehe) this whole time and it has shown that they would be a favorite for the title if TI3 were to be held right now. What a lot of people don't realize is that TI3 is in August and there's still a couple months AS WELL AS a balance patch in the works. I believe this LAN was a huge wake up call for the Eastern teams as well as a crucial learning experience for us. Without sounding arrogant, I think that we could have beat Orange, Alliance, and DK with better preparation (1 week of real practice) and given LGD a decent game/win instead of the thrashing that occurred. To address all the doubters who think TI2 will be like TI3: there is absolutely no way the top 8 split will be that heavily Eastern favored with teams of Alliance’s caliber in the Western scene. Anything can happen between now and TI3 and I would not be surprised to see another team rise to their status. And I can't stress this enough: the balance patch as well as teams practicing/bootcamping to be in their top shape will have TI3 as the most amazing tournament to date.

The tournament: The staff was incredibly helpful and accommodating. To the viewers/fans: The communication barrier was probably the biggest reason for the Allstar game's mishaps. However, every game breaking complaint we informed them about afterwards was fixed for the first game (Alliance vs DK) and thankfully it allowed Alliance to pull off their magnificent Rosh strat. (The issues: booths weren't completely sound proof, and with no noise cancelling headphones it was easy to hear the cast/in-game sounds. These were both addressed by turning down the in-game sounds/sound in general in the stadium as well as having the casters show hero movement/item progression rather than say it out loud.) Any delays that occurred were due to technical difficulties, such as Dota 2 crashing, hardware bugging out, etc. and were not the fault of the organization.

Teamliquid and Chinese teams: I believe we were our own worst enemy this tournament. The performances of yesterday/today do not accurately display our potential. For example, and I’m sure this is obvious by the results, Wisp+CK was our only strategy that we were confident in. In these online tournaments we either played a back and forth game with different unpracticed strategies, or we picked naix and destroyed most teams. Personally, I felt that I had a lot of holes in my gameplay and I have to attribute it to both bad plays (which I believe can be fixed) and to a certain degree—nerves. Although, I don’t think nerves affected me as much as others. We had no naix games this tournament. For our first LAN together, I don’t think it went as bad as it could’ve. There are huge internal issues within iG, and minor ones within the other teams.

Fun!: This tournament has been extremely fun and a vital experience for all of us on TL. Ixmike is definitely the most charismatic guy on our team and I think he has the biggest fan base in China out of us now. I want to give a special shoutout to G-1’s Carson for being the nicest and most helpful guy ever. Seriously, if we ever meet outside of China I’ll buy you dinner every night. Other shoutouts to Kellymilkies, LGD’s Helen, TL’s Flamewheel, LGD.int (they came and watched/supported!), the few foreigners who came out and chatted with us, and Alliance for being helpful and supportive as well as great company in a foreign place. Also a shoutout to that one cute ‘booth girl’ for being the only person this week who wanted to take a picture with me individually (according to fw, she thought I was cute. I don’t have a pic of her, but fw managed to creep one from the side.) Also: obligatory shoutouts to Razer, Twitch, Barracuda, Shiny Things, and pizza.gg.

Please excuse any mistakes/incorrect statements, as I can’t guarantee that these are free of them. I will be rooting for Team USA (kidding, Sweden’s Alliance) tomorrow in the G-1 finals.
TL will see you guys in Sweden for Dreamhack in a couple weeks. We’ll be bootcamping for TI3 in July.

Thanks for reading,
Korok

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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 25 2013 20:49 GMT
#2
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Thanks for the blog korok.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
May 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#3
Flamewheel provide pic pls
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#4
I wonder whats up in iG o_O
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
May 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#5
Thanks for the blog! Props to the amazing Rosh&aegis snipe against DK.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
May 25 2013 20:55 GMT
#6
You showed great potential and with DreamHack Summer and possibly DreamHack Valencia there is still plenty of time to get your LAN flow going for TI3. I look forward to that
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
May 25 2013 20:57 GMT
#7
Great performance from you guys and 1-4 doesn't tell the whole story, wouldn't have a required a miracle for it to be 4-1 instead.

Won't forget your Aegis snatch vs DK anytime soon either!
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
May 25 2013 20:59 GMT
#8
On May 26 2013 05:50 Gosi wrote:
I wonder whats up in iG o_O



i´d like to know that too, hear a 1st hand opinion.

I almost cant shake the feeling that they are just sandbagging, then again, that would be sacrificing still alot of money months before TI3
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#9
Yeah iG has some big problems going on. Its obvious.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
May 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#10
Well the same thing happened last G-1 and they came back strong.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#11
It could very well turn out like the 7-1 split that happened at TI2, not sure what makes you think otherwise. Teamliquid's performance relative to coL's is better, but other than Alliance, there isn't really a team that's gonna be able to stand up there come TI2 time with all the G-1 teams + teams like Tongfu. TI2 was a bit more on the fluky side for the Eastern teams though. Even though they got top 8 the bottom 2 or so asian teams could have lost to some western teams on another day. LGD, LGD.int, DK, Orange, iG, Tongfu, VG, Zenith (when they're not bad)? That's a pretty fearsome eastern lineup and you can basically guarantee a lot of those teams in the top 8.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 21:12:40
May 25 2013 21:11 GMT
#12
Thank you for the blog, I think having a lan under your belt will help a lot for dreamhack/ ti3.
Itsmedude don't forget lgd int and the fact that navi always turns it on for the big lans. Those 4 could all be in the top 8 with out surprising me in the least
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
May 25 2013 21:11 GMT
#13
Thanks for the blog. It was great watching you guys play a LAN and it seems like you guys enjoyed China as well.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
May 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#14
Thanks for blogging this Korok. Just make sure to take your new found experience LAN experience to sweden and win dreamhack.

Ixmike is definitely the most charismatic guy on our team and I think he has the biggest fan base in China out of us now.
No one can resist the stache.
Fatlord
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
May 25 2013 21:18 GMT
#15
It is a good idea to keep calm and find own mistake and try to improve it now. It is still long way to TI3. I think at that time, IG and Team Liquid will improve a lot!!! Keep the hard work!!! Love Liquid and IG!!!!
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#16
Hope TL can play to their potential in future events
D4rKNiGhT
Profile Joined January 2012
Spain34 Posts
May 25 2013 21:41 GMT
#17
Thanks for the information Korok, we NEED this statements always from a player in the tournaments. Says a lot of you. Thank you again and i wish you the best for the upcoming events!
Zvoboo
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany160 Posts
May 25 2013 21:45 GMT
#18
Best individual move of the tournament when you sniped that Rosh+ aegis steal, too bad it didn't result in a win. Great games from TL this tournament. Really close games that with minor tweaks should've been wins.
fascistfromhell
Profile Joined September 2012
1689 Posts
May 25 2013 21:57 GMT
#19
Nice insight, thank you!
Rebuild TL Dota.
JohnHarr
Profile Joined November 2011
United States375 Posts
May 25 2013 22:03 GMT
#20
Thanks for writting this blog. I hope that you guys have learned more about what is needed to win in the future

I look forward to seeing TL improve in the next few months :D
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