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Studying Korean - vocab crazy

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snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
May 06 2013 14:23 GMT
#1
Tjena bloggen.

Anyone frequenting the 24/7 broodwar stream might have noticed I'm not as active as I used to be. I started level 5 at Yonsei KLI around 5-6 weeks ago and I quickly noticed it was going to be quite different from what I was used to. The class is awesome, but I suddenly felt my vocabulary and speaking skills were rather lacking compared to most of my classmates.

After listening to the teacher explain how most students were having trouble with the difficult vocabulary in level 5 I decided to set a rigorous schedule to keep up. I had been trying my hand at Anki flashcards in the earlier levels but I found it to be a waste of time for the most part. Until the middle of level 4 I could pick up, understand and remember most of the vocabulary just by doing my homework every now and then. This semester I decided to start taking things more seriously though.

This is my currently daily schedule:

1. Classes 9AM-1PM

2. Preparation for next days classes - This usually takes around 2-3 hours:

2A: Go over all the material that will be covered the next day. Note down and write my own flashcards with personal translations tailored to the context they are in. This sometimes means a word will have up to 6 different English translations to convey the proper feeling of the word. Sometimes the translation will simply be korean -> hanja if the word consists of hanja I know.

2B: Prepare hanja decks for both reading/understanding and writing. My hanja classes cover 8 hanja per class and we have 3 classes per week. It is rather simple, but it takes time to learn the proper stroke order.

2C: Go through a few anki decks. My review-count is around 300~ repeat words per day of words/hanja from previous lessons + usually 30-60 new words. Sometimes more if we're doing reading + listening practice the next day. The vocab required is pretty crazy for both of these. I don't do all the decks in one sitting, and I usually save the 'learn' decks that I did in step1 for later to let it 'sink in' a bit.

2D: Review any grammar points covered in the text that day, sometimes I do homework consisting of a short text using the grammar and vocab learned that day. I'm usually too tired for this though and would rather take a break.

3. Throughout the rest of the day/evening I do the rest of the anki decks. I usually have enough time to do this on the subway travelling to meet my girlfriend, friends or language exchange partners. If I have no plans for the day I just make sure to do a deck every now and then before I head to bed.

Here are my anki statistics for the past month: + Show Spoiler +
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If anyone is interested in the anki decks I can upload them as well. However, if you are interested in getting the most out of your studies and Anki you should make the decks yourself. Going over the material and repeating is part of the learning process

-snipealot

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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 06 2013 14:44 GMT
#2
On May 06 2013 23:23 snipealot wrote:
Tjena bloggen.

Man this cracked me up :D
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 06 2013 14:46 GMT
#3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411031

If I can direct your attention to this thread. :D

Btw. Hanja sucks.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
May 06 2013 14:58 GMT
#4
You get five stars just for alerting me to the fact that the Anki graphs are still available in 2.0!

One of the things I was most disappointed about with the new version was the loss of the graphs/statistics page, but it turns out I just didn't look hard enough.

Keep up the good work bro.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 06 2013 17:45 GMT
#5
On May 06 2013 23:44 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:23 snipealot wrote:
Tjena bloggen.

Man this cracked me up :D


That was f***en funny :D
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
May 06 2013 21:31 GMT
#6
Man, I was flabbergasted when you said you found Anki to be a waste of time, but it looks like you've since seen the light :D

I play Anki more than I play Starcraft nowadays.
snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
May 06 2013 22:16 GMT
#7
On May 06 2013 23:46 Chexx wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411031

If I can direct your attention to this thread. :D

Btw. Hanja sucks.


That is literally a 3 minute walk away, but I really have no interest in LoL whatsoever :p I'll consider it though, maybe I can learn something new.
And hanja is awesome so far to be honest. Helps my language learning tremendously. ^^

On May 07 2013 06:31 Sayle wrote:
Man, I was flabbergasted when you said you found Anki to be a waste of time, but it looks like you've since seen the light :D

I play Anki more than I play Starcraft nowadays.


Well it was probably more the fact that I was not using it the right way. When I tried using anki (and memrise for a bit) I mostly just downloaded public decks made by other people and memorized those. With no context and no repetition outside of anki it didn't really help me all that much. The way I'm using it now though helps me prepare for classes as well as repeat vocabulary again afterwards. After it has helped me learn 1300+ words the past month you could say I've seen the light yes :p
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
May 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#8
On May 07 2013 07:16 snipealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:46 Chexx wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411031

If I can direct your attention to this thread. :D

Btw. Hanja sucks.


That is literally a 3 minute walk away, but I really have no interest in LoL whatsoever :p I'll consider it though, maybe I can learn something new.
And hanja is awesome so far to be honest. Helps my language learning tremendously. ^^

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 06:31 Sayle wrote:
Man, I was flabbergasted when you said you found Anki to be a waste of time, but it looks like you've since seen the light :D

I play Anki more than I play Starcraft nowadays.


Well it was probably more the fact that I was not using it the right way. When I tried using anki (and memrise for a bit) I mostly just downloaded public decks made by other people and memorized those. With no context and no repetition outside of anki it didn't really help me all that much. The way I'm using it now though helps me prepare for classes as well as repeat vocabulary again afterwards. After it has helped me learn 1300+ words the past month you could say I've seen the light yes :p


You mind elaborating a bit on the "right" way to use Anki? I'm learning a language right now and it's kicking my ass. Anything that can help, I'll gladly use.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Kimoleon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States210 Posts
May 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#9
Hehe I look up so many words on naver, good luck with your kimchi speak studies ^^;
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
May 07 2013 01:34 GMT
#10
On May 06 2013 23:44 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:23 snipealot wrote:
Tjena bloggen.

Man this cracked me up :D

t.t explain
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
ZerONine09
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom42 Posts
May 07 2013 02:27 GMT
#11
On May 07 2013 10:34 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:44 Epoxide wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:23 snipealot wrote:
Tjena bloggen.

Man this cracked me up :D

t.t explain

It's something like "What's up blog/youtubez/whatever" addressing the blog and its readers. It's funny because it's something typical of Swedish teenage girl blogs..
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 07 2013 03:40 GMT
#12
On May 07 2013 07:16 snipealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:46 Chexx wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411031

If I can direct your attention to this thread. :D

Btw. Hanja sucks.


That is literally a 3 minute walk away, but I really have no interest in LoL whatsoever :p I'll consider it though, maybe I can learn something new.
And hanja is awesome so far to be honest. Helps my language learning tremendously. ^^


Yeah the meetings are always fun and afterwards there is most of the time a little PCBang session. I dont really like Hanja though :/
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snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 04:41:54
May 07 2013 04:37 GMT
#13
On May 07 2013 08:31 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
You mind elaborating a bit on the "right" way to use Anki? I'm learning a language right now and it's kicking my ass. Anything that can help, I'll gladly use.


Everyone is different really but for any kind of language learning you need to make sure you learn words in their proper context and repeat them to the point where they are retained. Anki is great for the latter part but just mindlessly studying words and their translated counterparts is never a good idea. If you look at my original post you will see that I first learn words by reading through the material, then make anki decks with translations suited for the context the words were presented in. Then I repeat the words again with anki the same day, and again while going through the material again during my classes the next day. The words are then repeated in the standard anki pattern with my usual studies.

This works for me and helps me understand not just the words themselves but also how they are used in the texts. Everyone is different though, and of course languages are also different. I never felt the need to use flashcards during my German and Spanish studies.

On May 07 2013 09:43 Kimoleon wrote:
Hehe I look up so many words on naver, good luck with your kimchi speak studies ^^;


I love naver. Using the 영어/국어/한자 dictionaries help me understand everything I come across and figure out my own translations, even when the 영어사전 gives me shitty translations for 속담, 관용어 or 한자성어
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