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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 29 2013 02:06 GMT
#21
@OP I was referring to the skit.

I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
April 29 2013 02:42 GMT
#22
"STOP" "DOING" "THESE"

I CANT READ YOUR BLOG BECAUSE it's so damn annoying, please re-consider your writing style - this is NOT well written in any shape or form.

Seriously.

I've "had' enough of it
AiurZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States429 Posts
April 29 2013 03:23 GMT
#23
@run.at.me I generally do my best to hold off on value judgements and it seems odd to me that it would feel "okay" to you that it would be a "good" thing to do to call into question the manner in which I express myself. I think the statement "this is NOT [sic] well written in any shape or form" is something that I would reject as being a false statement as generally most of my usage of quotation marks is grammatically correct.

I think that this statement also provides an excellent reason why I feel it is necessary to punctuate the manner in which I do. Saying something like "this is NOT [sic] well written" in itself is something that I would have used quotations in ("well written" would be my usage) because something like "well written" in this usage (I am presuming you don't mean it in the grammatical sense since grammatically I think my usage of quotation marks is generally correct) is something that isn't part of concrete reality and you should really be signifying this to your reader in the sense that this is something for which I should be providing a definition of (ie the conditions you have set for something being "well written" etc) and is something that could mean a number of different things and is ambiguous/vague etc. so that the reader can immediately know all of this information.

Further than that, I feel like I would also put quotation marks around "shape" and "form" or maybe the entire phrase "any shape or form" to indicate to the reader this is figurative language ie a cliched phrase and as such doesn't really have very much meaning of its own and instead relies upon its usage traditionally for it to evoke any meaning in the reader, this phrase isn't very concrete and if we were to consider it concretely or objectively then it would prove itself to be false because if I set the conditions of something that is "well written" to be something that is written in this manner/style (ie this shape of something being well written/this form of something being well written) then it is, according to this criteria (ie this shape/form) well written.

Not that I feel anything that I write is particularly "well written".
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
April 29 2013 03:34 GMT
#24
I didn't mind the quotes but those time measurements were really weird and threw me off for a bit.

In regards to the actual content, I thought it was kinda funny how you were overexamining minor interactions with her and writing whole paragraphs about holding a door open/watching her eat out of her bookbag.

Kinda odd, but I enjoyed reading it. Just fix your quotes so people can actually understand next time. Time measurements too I think.
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
April 29 2013 03:37 GMT
#25
The way you describe her exact actions makes it sound like your watching her from your van, rather than the seat behind her in class. And this stuff is only gonna get weirder if you put off talking to her.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
April 29 2013 05:01 GMT
#26
On April 29 2013 10:33 AiurZ wrote:

@ziggurat "To strike up a conversation and maintain it for at least 2.75 minutes" is something that I didn't really feel was "possible" given 1. my lack of interaction with her previously and 2. the amount of classes that I have left before the semester ends. Any attempt at a conversation would take place in the ~2.75 minutes that I spend sitting at my desk waiting for class to start, in which I would either have to (rather uncharacteristically) A. get her attention and have a conversation in which one of us is facing one direction and the other was originally facing the other direction and must now turn at an "awkward angle" in order to continue at a point in time of class when the professor is generally "half-lecturing" about something that is vaguely related to class waiting on any stragglers or B. sit next to her for the previously recommended ~2.75 minute conversation, a seat that I have not occupied in the previous classes, and then stay sitting next to the girl [who formerly sat in front of me in class] for the next 3 hours of the lecture, during which times I will probably do "vaguely unattractive" things like "taking notes in an excited manner" which I feel would also be generally unsuccessful because the girl who formerly sat in front of me in class would be left wondering things like "Why did he sit next to me to only have a ~2.75 minute conversation with me" recalling specific instances of our previous interactions ie holding the door open for each other for the next 3 hours also possibly "dreading" the end of class when (as she perceives it) I will attempt to make another ~2.75 minute conversation when all she really wants to do after class is bring her phone to her face and tell [the person on the other end of the phone] that she is done with class or I would have to wait until the end of class, taking an "extra amount of time" to pack my things up (which would be, again, uncharacteristic because I sit closer to the door and only carry a single book with me) or waiting for her outside the door (equally uncharacteristic of me, since I don't remember any instance of me doing this before) in order to "strike up" a conversation for ~2.75 minutes outside the context of the class during which time she would be thinking something along the lines of "How long is he going to keep talking, it has been ~2.75 minutes, when am I going to be able to call [the person on the other end of the phone] to tell them that I am out of class" etc. Any ~2.75 conversation that I have would have to be "direct" in my intention otherwise I am wasting ~2.70 minutes of time making whatever conversation that I make for the ~0.05 minutes that it takes to say something like "I saw you touch your phone briefly without interacting with it and felt ecstatic about my life in a way that I never have before, can we please go somewhere and do something without interacting with each other or talking, can we just go sit somewhere and be silent and not look at each other for [an indeterminable amount of time]" or "I am very impressed by the manner in which you quietly ate [indiscriminate snack] last week, did you want to go out and eat [indiscriminate snack] quietly with me later" etc. because I can't conceive of a possible "universe" in which any conversation or interaction that I have the girl who sits in front of me in class where my intentions wouldn't be clearly on display and result in any "unrelated conversation" seeming to be "strange". I feel like this was my "original intention" but was unsure of what is the manner of doing it that is 1. the least "strange" 2. has the least amount of "artifice" and 3. was the most "honest"/"straightforward"/"concrete".



This is pretty ridiculous, I feel like you're bored and just having a little fun trolling TL. If you are not though, stop thinking so much about every little thing.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
April 29 2013 05:38 GMT
#27
It's not that the quotes themselves are affronting; it's just that they are used almost completely unnecessarily. For instance, in this occasion you quote, "possible," when you have already clarified the use of the word's connotations by saying it is, "something that I didn't really feel."
@ziggurat "To strike up a conversation and maintain it for at least 2.75 minutes" is something that I didn't really feel was "possible" given 1. my lack of interaction with her previously and 2. the amount of classes that I have left before the semester ends.


On topic, I would try to repress some of your thoughts and feelings about what is socially allowed. Just like it was said, strike up a conversation with her, and if it goes wrong, at least you tried. You're not going to be vilified for some small social foible.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 06:16:01
April 29 2013 05:57 GMT
#28
When you read, you end up sounding out the words in your head (or at least I do). The quotes are distracting, because even if I don't imagine someone using air quotes all the time (which I don't), I "hear" the emphasis added to the words in my head. It's the same reason why seeing a hell of a lot of italics or capslock in a sentence is fucking annoying and distracting.

There's no point to putting in the scare quotes when we, as readers, are not idiots and can generally tell which words are ambiguous and which are not, and thus we assign the appropriate weight to them. Hell, if you're really that worried about us being lost in the ambiguity of your language, just pick better words.

I mean, I am all for idiot-proof writing, but this is going a bit too far, especially since most of us are native English speakers.
AiurZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States429 Posts
April 29 2013 06:11 GMT
#29
@Kometaja I feel like I am using "possible" in that sense outside of the traditional context in which "possible" might be used, I don't mean it by way of the definition of "possible", this is obviously something that I can do, something that I can actually do. I think that "striking up" a conversation with the girl who sits in front of me in class is something that exists well within the confines of reality (I can imagine myself writing a story about "striking up" a conversation with the girl who sits in front of me in class in a style of realism). Instead, I mean "possible" in the sense that it doesn't seem "possible" in a universe whose "rules" seem comprehensible to me, and I think go further in trying to explain this.

I feel that at every side of every possible interaction there are "insurmountable obstacles"- talking before class being severely limited via seat positioning in relation to whatever tangential way the professor uses to segue into her lecture or being severely limited via changing seat positions in an "uncomfortable way" and talking after class being severely limited to the strangeness of trying to have a conversation with someone who's direction of movement is opposite to your own traditional path of movement and also her desire to tell [the person on the other end of the phone] that she is done with class, I feel given the timing of the phone call ie the class ending at ~6:45p.m. and making the call almost right away after getting out of class and also the general positioning of her phone on her desk along with her fingers "longing" to create contact, even if interaction-less, with it that [the person at the other end of the phone] would be more likely to be someone that would be defined as her "boyfriend" than vs. someone that would be defined as her dad, etc. I think that these factors especially paired with the fact that I have two more classes left in the semester prevents me from "striking up" a conversation with her because 1. I don't have the ability to "strike up" a conversation using the context of the class and 2. any interaction would either be clearly defined as me having an interest in her in this way (the way in which her having a boyfriend would prohibit) or would have to have me clearly defining my interest in her in this way (as before) which is an inherent imbalance of power that might feel "uncomfortable" in the future (in addition to the present).

It is my assumption that this seemingly quiet girl who does things in class in what seems like a "calculatedly quiet" manner would feel at the very least flattered that somebody in her class would "feel attracted to her" but this is an assumption that I don't feel is particularly true sometimes and remember several specific instances of unwanted advances from either 1. the class-mate in my poetry workshop who worked in a book-store where my friend worked in the coffee thing, this wasn't so bad except after he tried to "figure out my relationship status" I felt strange about the times that we had interacted before and also our future interactions (of which in my case there would be two more, one more via class and one more via the final or 2. the time that someone said he was/had been in my class but hadn't and seemingly "stalked" me on campus for the next year or so. I feel like both of these people would have had the same assumption towards me that I am making towards the girl who sits in front of me currently.

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FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 06:56:37
April 29 2013 06:55 GMT
#30
I can't read with all that "air quote shit".

And I find it concerning that you have the time counted down to the last hundredth of a month. Maybe you're just a quirky kind of person.

Skimming through your replies, you think way too much. Quite neurotic. Then again I'm avoiding reading too much because of ALL THOSE FUCKING SCARE QUOTES.
pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:12:01
April 29 2013 07:10 GMT
#31
Aiurz, I feel as though you'd be a very interesting person to speak to, I'd like to know you better to figure out how you think.

As for what reading your writing is like, have you watched the youtube video linked at the top of this page? Because that's how most of us are reading what you write.

You have other ways to put emphasis in, quotation marks imply a certain way of reading/speaking what you say.

In cases where it is simply a single word and you are not using it to indicate speech, it really does sound like the air quote video above.

Can I suggest something like this instead? Its much easier to the reader and nicely shows where the importance is.

Its not so...different. Of course if you -really- wanted to have a third option, you could do what I just did there.

Each of those three methods should read a different way. The quotations mark it harsh and short, the italics make it softer and more meaningful whilst the dashes harden and lengthen the sound of the word a bit.

Overall though, you don't need to do it anywhere near as much as you do now. The reader should be able to interpret what you are trying to say, you don't need to baby us. Try writing without them at all, I bet a large portion of people will still place the importance correctly.

You're an interesting kid, buddy.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
April 29 2013 10:55 GMT
#32
Sorry these quote things have to go. Just makes the reading a bit more distracting/annoying than it should be.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
April 29 2013 11:09 GMT
#33
You *speak* like the Orz. Thank you for reminding me that I have to play this amazing game again :-)
NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
April 29 2013 11:47 GMT
#34
Won't lie - stopped reading after 3rd paragraph, quotes were getting too much for me :-/
"He accidentally attacked his own nexus with a probe. Then half way through the game, poof! No more nexus. That's gotta suck!"
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
April 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#35
I reckon your best shot is to try and recreate the door-situation again, preferably on the second last class. You mentioned that the after-class option is probably a no-go so how about camping outside before class. If you're lucky and your timing's right, you've got something "vaguely interesting" to joke about and then 2.75 minutes to talk about anything else before class. Now you have a free ticket to talk to her on the second day without any tricks: problem solved.

It'll probably be really obvious to her what you're trying to pull, but she can't prove it and might intrigue her as well (worked for me in a similar situation with perfect bathroom-break timing - yeah I know: real smooth )

GL
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ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
April 29 2013 16:18 GMT
#36
Epic troll. Voting 5/5.
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
April 29 2013 17:39 GMT
#37
On April 30 2013 01:18 ziggurat wrote:
Epic troll. Voting 5/5.

"epic"troll
SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
April 29 2013 17:51 GMT
#38
On April 30 2013 02:39 clementdudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 01:18 ziggurat wrote:
Epic troll. Voting 5/5.

"epic"troll

"Epic" "troll" "." "Voting" "5" "/" "5" "."
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AiurZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States429 Posts
April 30 2013 02:09 GMT
#39
@FractalsOnFire I don't really think that I overthink things or that I am a neurotic person, I think that maybe I am deliberate or maybe aware in my own thoughts in a different sort of way than most people, but I don't see any difference between anything that I have posted and things that a "normal average person" would think about just not on the conscious level. I think this sense of yours might be exacerbated because I also try to be very deliberate and concrete in my language, but I really think that I think about the same much as the average person does. To use a similar example, if you go to class, or when you went to class etc. and you sit down in the seat that you normally sit in, what really stops you from sitting in any other seat from around the room? Maybe you don't really think about it, but I don't really think that it can be "well I just decided to sit here" because if this was the reason then it seems to me like you would be constantly changing seats according to what you just decide to do in that moment. The difference is that when I sit down in my seat every day I am aware of the reasons why I am deciding to sit in that seat for that day. This is only an extension of that ie asking why don't I just sit next to the girl who sits in front of me in class and "strike up" a conversation with her and maintain it for ~2.75 minutes and being deliberate and aware of my own thought process why in a concrete manner, asking why don't I sit in my regular seat behind the girl who sits in front of me in class and "strike up" a conversation with her and maintain it for ~2.75 minutes and so on and so forth. I am reminded of a passage in Beckett's Molloy: http://www.samuel-beckett.net/molloy1.html although I feel as though you would probably also point that out as being neurotic and thinking too much and therefore reference it with a feeling of hesitation.

Also re: the decimals indicating the month are generally an approximation

@pevergreen I can't help or change the tonality in which you, or anyone, read my posts short of reading my posts myself and posting that either alongside my post or as my post. The quotation marks are generally correct, I think. If it helps you to read you can not place any emphasis on the words contained by quotation marks, I feel generally unencumbered in this way but I think that oftentimes I make an effort to read in a detached sort of monotone. It isn't about emphasis but more having to deal with various issues of language in relation to vagueness/ambiguity/concrete reality etc.

@Hoender I get off of work and go straight to school, there is no way for me to arrive at school any earlier than I do now. Trying to create a situation in which I hold open the door for her seems also full of artifice in the sense that I would have to open the door, then hold open the door, make eye-contact, maintain eye-contact, during which time if my body language is conveying my intention she will realize what is about to come next and feel an incoming sense of dread-- there is the sense that I am "creating" this situation out of a desire of this interaction, which feels to me to be the same amount of artifice as attempting any conversation of [indiscriminate length] that doesn't immediately communicate whatever intention that I have.


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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
April 30 2013 04:46 GMT
#40
Can someone slap me?
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