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I got the game since the release. I've been playing for 2 years now WOL. I stopped playing constantly 10 game in a day when my diabetes fucked up my arm but still manage to play (with a lot of pain) like 4-5 games.
After 2 years, I'm losing which I hate it. Everywhere I read some asshole is telling me that I'm going to lose, like they were some kind of angels on earth telling me my destiny. But the thing is they are losing too, but they still speak like some day they will be masters on this fucking game.
Well, they are not going to be masters. As a matter of fact, even masters and pros are hating the game.
Not only that, but the way this game is designed, the ladder how it is designed, are making this game go down really really fast. Considering the social aspect of the game, where you start by saying the hipocrite line "gl hf".... who the fuck says that after so many years?. Just for a moment, I'd wish some teenager from blizzard (because the mature ones are really occupied spending their millions, leaving only teenagers and guys who still live with their moms) why in the fucking hell, they haven't made a fucking patch where you can click on some box that says "start automatically with the hipocrite line of gl hf".
I mean, we all know ladder is stressing, that a lot of noobs and experts says "enjoy the game", "don't play if it gets frustrating"... well guess what people with no jobs... "jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. But at least at work you don't see a client who is going to make your life miserable or being a lawyer who says to another lawyer the damn line "gl hf, pls dont work your best if it is stressing".
the hell with that.
The game is stressing because you keep losing and losing and losing, hell, I even managed to finish a damn career at my university and I keep failing at this fucking game.
Failing its like it was designed as a part of the game on this title. That's why everyone is hating it. And that's why it's losing players.
And lol its the same, but they are losing as a team. The guilt can be toss to other element of the team. In SC2, the guilt is only you and you only can blame the damn design of this game.
Blizzard kids, if you are reading this INSERT A BOX so this game says automatically "GL HF" and some other options like "PLS DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
I know you can do it, after all, you made the drones go automatically to the mineral at the beggining.
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Uninstall and move on with your life. Stop trying to like something if you've never found a point at which you could say you enjoyed this game.
If you're coming to stop cussing out everyone who says anything remotely related to the game, the developers, the company and starting to get cynical: it's obvious that this is just a poisonous game for you.
Seriously: uninstall, move on. You're not gaining anything by forcing yourself to play and you're wasting time when you could do something that doesn't incite such behavior from you. If you can't enjoy it, then don't play it.
Go to bed, wake up, read this shit and tell me if that's really how you want to talk and act from something you bought and wanted to play and enjoy.
If not, then the decision is obvious.
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I stopped playing the game seriously a long, long time ago. I couldn't break into masters because I'd start tilting every time I lost to a one base all-in and just go on ridiculous losing streaks. It was frustrating beyond measure.
Now I just play team games with friends, and I don't hate the game like I used to.
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On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:I mean, we all know ladder is stressing, that a lot of noobs and experts says "enjoy the game", "don't play if it gets frustrating"... well guess what people with no jobs... "jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. But at least at work you don't see a client who is going to make your life miserable or being a lawyer who says to another lawyer the damn line "gl hf, pls dont work your best if it is stressing".
You're missing the key difference between videogames and jobs: Jobs are something you HAVE to do for a living. Videogames are not. If you don't want to play a videogame, maybe it would be a good idea if you didn't play?
On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:And lol its the same, but they are losing as a team. The guilt can be toss to other element of the team. In SC2, the guilt is only you and you only can blame the damn design of this game. If, as you say, you're not in masters, then the game's ballance has little impact on the outcome of your games. If you lose, it's not Blizzard's fault lmao
On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:I know you can do it, after all, you made the drones go automatically to the mineral at the beggining. Oh, you're a zerg player. Now I understand.
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On March 29 2013 15:49 n00b1n8R wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:I mean, we all know ladder is stressing, that a lot of noobs and experts says "enjoy the game", "don't play if it gets frustrating"... well guess what people with no jobs... "jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. But at least at work you don't see a client who is going to make your life miserable or being a lawyer who says to another lawyer the damn line "gl hf, pls dont work your best if it is stressing". You're missing the key difference between videogames and jobs: Jobs are something you HAVE to do for a living. Videogames are not. If you don't want to play a videogame, maybe it would be a good idea if you didn't play? Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:And lol its the same, but they are losing as a team. The guilt can be toss to other element of the team. In SC2, the guilt is only you and you only can blame the damn design of this game. If, as you say, you're not in masters, then the game's ballance has little impact on the outcome of your games. If you lose, it's not Blizzard's fault lmao Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:I know you can do it, after all, you made the drones go automatically to the mineral at the beggining. Oh, you're a zerg player. Now I understand.
You're wasting your time. He's not looking to be corrected on details, he's just venting. No one really cares who's right to be real honest.
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Having Fun: You're Doing it Wrong.
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TLDR: you hate sc2 because ladder keeps matching you with people that can beat you?
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Try playing other games instead. If you then still get angry, then its time for you to take a break from gaming altogether and pursue real life goals.
"jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. I think you got some shit mixed up here. Jobs bring income, SC2 does not. You have to work if you want to earn money to buy something to eat; you don't have to play SC2, and hope that you will maybe earn something, because you most likely will not. Jobs are real, games are not.
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SC2 is fun for me and when I say gl hf I mean it. Even if I lose to a cheesy rush, there's still excitement that comes from it. As posted above, maybe you should look somewhere else for entertainment since you're obviously not getting it from your time invested in SC.
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On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote:I know you can do it, after all, you made the drones go automatically to the mineral at the beggining. Oh, you're a zerg player. Now I understand.[/QUOTE]
lol far from the truth, but that doesn't even matter which race do I play. Are you implying people who play zerg are below your logical thinking or what?.-
Please trying to troll in such a weak manner is disgusting.
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On March 29 2013 16:53 Bunn wrote:Try playing other games instead. If you then still get angry, then its time for you to take a break from gaming altogether and pursue real life goals. Show nested quote +"jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. I think you got some shit mixed up here. Jobs bring income, SC2 does not. You have to work if you want to earn money to buy something to eat; you don't have to play SC2, and hope that you will maybe earn something, because you most likely will not. Jobs are real, games are not.
games are real, the timing you have invested was real, the ammount of energy into reading, thinking and actually playing it's real.
That's why people get mad. Resources are being invested and it does not show proper results. If you think games nowadays are supposed to be fun, then why you read a lot of threads on today's forums?. It doesn't really matter if you think it's real or not, fun or not, its about something that is real: stress.
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On March 29 2013 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: Uninstall and move on with your life. Stop trying to like something if you've never found a point at which you could say you enjoyed this game.
If you're coming to stop cussing out everyone who says anything remotely related to the game, the developers, the company and starting to get cynical: it's obvious that this is just a poisonous game for you.
Seriously: uninstall, move on. You're not gaining anything by forcing yourself to play and you're wasting time when you could do something that doesn't incite such behavior from you. If you can't enjoy it, then don't play it.
Go to bed, wake up, read this shit and tell me if that's really how you want to talk and act from something you bought and wanted to play and enjoy.
If not, then the decision is obvious.
You know that is actually a good advise. The thing is, people get addicted to stress, it gets you angry and you release chemicals that once are gone, you need your fix.
it's like a soft drug that this game is doing to all of us. And maybe that's why I can't leave it. Sometimes I play because I am so stressed from work that I can shout inside this game and that's all right, instead of doing it to people on real life.
If I get angry at the game and angry at people who writes EACH GAME "gl hf" like they are some sort of fanatical religion member, it helps at the end to release (and produce) stress. It's just that I find it ridiculous to read every game GL HF after this long. I mean, it has been YEARS reading the same thing over and over and over.... there has to be some sort of automatic blocking chat or automatic answering command to that annoying msg you see on the screen. If you don't think it's wrong, you could be thinking the same as I do after 10, 20, 30 years.
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For all of that ranting, you definitely raised one really good point about the need for an auto "gl hf" option
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You know, I got masters yesterday and i so regret it, all games since ive been in masters have been protosses allining, terrans proxy reapers bunker rush, and zerg muta vs muta is just fking stupid, ur right in some things i also hate it too sometimes but i continue to play,
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On March 29 2013 17:07 SOyuncastor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 16:53 Bunn wrote:Try playing other games instead. If you then still get angry, then its time for you to take a break from gaming altogether and pursue real life goals. "jobs are fucking stressing, and we all have to suck it up and keep working".... the same thing happens with this fucking game. I think you got some shit mixed up here. Jobs bring income, SC2 does not. You have to work if you want to earn money to buy something to eat; you don't have to play SC2, and hope that you will maybe earn something, because you most likely will not. Jobs are real, games are not. games are real, the timing you have invested was real, the ammount of energy into reading, thinking and actually playing it's real. That's why people get mad. Resources are being invested and it does not show proper results. If you think games nowadays are supposed to be fun, then why you read a lot of threads on today's forums?. It doesn't really matter if you think it's real or not, fun or not, its about something that is real: stress.
Game=voluntary job=not
you can stop being stressed due to star2 at any time
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dude if you get this upset over a game i think you've got some serious problems, just stop playing sc2 if you "hate" it so much?
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On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote: where you start by saying the hipocrite line "gl hf".... who the fuck says that after so many years?
Not really sure how you get that to be hypocritical. Most people really do want to have a fun game when they play...a game. For those few that don't even it's not like the statement doesn't also hold a social point, similar to a handshake.
To be honest, just sounds like your attitude sucks, and that statement sums it up. You really want to play a game where your opponents don't have fun and have bad luck and lose without any challenge???
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On March 29 2013 20:14 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:36 SOyuncastor wrote: where you start by saying the hipocrite line "gl hf".... who the fuck says that after so many years? Not really sure how you get that to be hypocritical. Most people really do want to have a fun game when they play...a game. For those few that don't even it's not like the statement doesn't also hold a social point, similar to a handshake. To be honest, just sounds like your attitude sucks, and that statement sums it up. You really want to play a game where your opponents don't have fun and have bad luck and lose without any challenge???
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Every time you lose, somebody else wins.
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U mad seems appliccable here. Don't be such a negative nancy, it seems you've figured out that you don't like SC2 and that you're bad at it, so find something else you actually enjoy learning.
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You should get into MMOs and all your worries about you being not good at what you do are washed away.
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so basically you're saying that you can't stand losing. well, that's normal. but sc is a game, so losing has to be a part of it. maybe you should try other hobbies when you hate losing, like watching tv.
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If you don't like the game because you're losing, it's your fault, not the game's fault. In WoL, I was winning and I still disliked the game because it was boring to me. I was a masters player, I've won games against players like Axslav and Thisisjimmy even though both were much better than me (and it's even more true now). However I think that the game is just dull and shallow, which if why I essentially stopped playing after the fourth ladder season of WoL.
Now I'm playing again and I'm absolute garbage because I'm behind in the meta and I'm a bit rusty mechanically, and I hate it even more because I'm not even able to be decent at a game that I don't respect. That part is my failing though.
I used to be a pretty hardcore gamer during the BW days, and now I'm a casual who'll only play games with buddies because they're only good at being platforms to mess around in. I'll play 2v2's and 3v3's without a care in the world, and we'll make dick jokes for the entire duration of the game and have a good time. 1v1'ing isn't entertaining on its own unless the competitive feeling manages to make up for the game's lack of depth and its obvious trial-and-error balance* design which lacks all and any eloquence.
But that's just my pessimistic take. I'm bitter because it murdered BW.
*: I don't think the game is imbalanced, in fact props to Blizzard for making it pretty dam' balanced as far as I can tell. But that's all it is to me. A relatively fair, yet completely boring game, where exciting and impressive things only happen very very rarely. And watching it is even worse. Where playing the game can give me some emotions (mostly my ego getting bashed on with a blunt object), tournament games are for the most part completely uninteresting. Watching MLG is essentially waiting for the 2-3 "wow" moments that'll happen throughout hours of gameplay. The rest just seem like a cesspool of linear executions of strats that ultimately fail or succeed typically based on a multitude of boring engagement. And while the strats are sometimes smart and I can applaud that, -nothing- can make a clever use of swarm hosts fun to watch like lurkers were, like micro-able mutas were or like reavers were.
I'm still desperately trying to like it so that BW won't have died in vain but I think I'll need brain damage.
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I don't understand why some people take GL HF so literally. It's a polite formality, that everyone should say at the beginning of the match, no matter what. There's things like that in every sport, its just something that you do to show a little respect towards your unknown opponent.
The GG at the end is a little less necessary in my opinion, but I still make an effort to say it every time I lose, regardless of what I lose to. When I do, I'm not necessarily saying that I think it actually was a good game, since I tend to rage after losing, it's just an acknowledgment to my opponent that they have beaten me.
For actually letting out any rage after losing, I just watch the replay which usually helps calm me down as I analyze what went wrong. I also have a small punching bad near my computer that has helped before.
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I'd wish some teenager from blizzard (because the mature ones are really occupied spending their millions, leaving only teenagers and guys who still live with their moms) A guy like you probably shouldn't go around calling other people immature. It seems a little, how do you say, "hipocritical"
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Do you have a specific definition of what you consider "winning"? Once you master a certain skill level the game ranks you up and you play at a harder difficulty. So if you win, the you probably start to lose again.. remember??? If you had a specific level you wanted to reach, it would make your goals clearer and that would make losing easier. You would be able to take losses in stride because they'd be part of the process of reaching your goal (lets say getting to masters league)
Often when I'm actually playing well and having fun and learning, a loss is more fun than a win. If i'm enjoying myself and scouting and trying to figure out what to do next I can often figure out what i did wrong so i feel like next time i will have a chance. My friend told me "just pick a plan and treat it like you are testing something out. it may work, it may not"
The thing i don't necessarily like about starcraft is its actually fucking tiring. You do a build. you scout, you make sure not to miss pylons and get everything down at the right time.. you do that perfectly, then it gets into the late game and you have to do all this mentally exhausting stuff like remember to make a bunch of shit while you're trying to plan an attack.... just remember the pros are MASTERS they are using their conscious thought much less because they have found ways to know exactly what works... the rest of us... we should take it easy... think... laugh... and respect our opponents! I don't say "gl hf" i say "have fun" or "good luck" and sometimes i converse a bit. it's nice to remember it is a human and not some asshole with mean zealots under his control...
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On March 29 2013 17:14 SOyuncastor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: Uninstall and move on with your life. Stop trying to like something if you've never found a point at which you could say you enjoyed this game.
If you're coming to stop cussing out everyone who says anything remotely related to the game, the developers, the company and starting to get cynical: it's obvious that this is just a poisonous game for you.
Seriously: uninstall, move on. You're not gaining anything by forcing yourself to play and you're wasting time when you could do something that doesn't incite such behavior from you. If you can't enjoy it, then don't play it.
Go to bed, wake up, read this shit and tell me if that's really how you want to talk and act from something you bought and wanted to play and enjoy.
If not, then the decision is obvious. You know that is actually a good advise. The thing is, people get addicted to stress, it gets you angry and you release chemicals that once are gone, you need your fix. it's like a soft drug that this game is doing to all of us. And maybe that's why I can't leave it. Sometimes I play because I am so stressed from work that I can shout inside this game and that's all right, instead of doing it to people on real life. If I get angry at the game and angry at people who writes EACH GAME "gl hf" like they are some sort of fanatical religion member, it helps at the end to release (and produce) stress. It's just that I find it ridiculous to read every game GL HF after this long. I mean, it has been YEARS reading the same thing over and over and over.... there has to be some sort of automatic blocking chat or automatic answering command to that annoying msg you see on the screen. If you don't think it's wrong, you could be thinking the same as I do after 10, 20, 30 years.
It's not wrong because it's just courtesy. Whether they mean it or not is pretty pointless in the grand scheme of things.
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I hope other functions of etiquette such as bowing, hand shaking, or saying "Good morning," don't bother you this much. Protip: no one really means any of that. People wish you "Good morning" when their morning has been shit and they don't really care how your morning goes. Maybe they're insufferable "hipocrits" and you should quit associating with them.
I have many problems with SC2 but if you quit simply because you lose, I don't know what to say. Maybe you're just not cut out for competition, or anything involving losing or stress.
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On March 29 2013 21:44 Kuni wrote: You should get into MMOs and all your worries about you being not good at what you do are washed away.
I did that. I bought WOW and fell asleep that month. It's not a good solution getting 10 pumpkins to some guy over and over and over.
I also bought Diablo 3. That game was a nice game, a lot of people said --- I mean, raged how bad was it. But the only thing that I regret was that the minimap and the descriptions on that game, were burning my LCD screen.
I wrote about it, and people said my HDTV was an old model, which is not. But at the end, I got mad with diablo 3 for not letting me change the screen the way I wanted. Games like Guildwars (I'm talking about the first one) would let you "design" your screen by changing a lot of stuff. Blizzard with all the experience in the world, does not let you do that and I think that is wrong.
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lol what did i just read? if you want to win go play single player games, those are pretty much designed to be easy wins in normal mode. Otherwise get ready to lose at a game that you cant dedicate your time to. RTS does not sound like the genre for you; the pay off in RTS is when you finally apply what you learned and it takes you to a hard earned win.
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On March 29 2013 23:56 EchOne wrote: I hope other functions of etiquette such as bowing, hand shaking, or saying "Good morning," don't bother you this much. Protip: no one really means any of that. People wish you "Good morning" when their morning has been shit and they don't really care how your morning goes. Maybe they're insufferable "hipocrits" and you should quit associating with them.
I have many problems with SC2 but if you quit simply because you lose, I don't know what to say. Maybe you're just not cut out for competition, or anything involving losing or stress.
Hand shaking or saying "good morning" does not bother me at all. I do not bow as it is something it's not necessary around here.
I know people does not really means that, that's why I don't write it back. I just want an option so I can no longer read what the other is talking or an automatic response to those lines.
This could be a conditionated response. Some people get happy when they read that, some people doesn't. I'm just suggesting blizzard an option for the people like me who rages about that annoying little thing, to help us avoid getting mad. Let me choose to click on a little box in the options menu:
"write down GL HF automatically" or "Don't show chat from now on"
I don't think I'm asking too much. I mean, it has been years and you can all see this it's not good for my health. And I know I can't be the only one in the planet.
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I have to imagine that OP's room has GL HF written all over the walls and looks something like this
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I really don't get the rage against "gl hf".
It's like posting a rage blog about people saying "Hi" to you and smiling.
Sure, that person probably doesn't really want to engage you in conversation, and sure, you're really a very clever man to have figured all that out - but provided someone is willing to say something to you that is remotely pleasant (which I often experience on ladder, personally), why on earth would that make you angry?
If you'd prefer people to be honest and aggressive (as your post indicates), rather than courteous, then let me start by saying that most people probably came to this blog expecting a well-written critique about the game, its storyline, or even just a clever quip about the world of SC2. Instead, they found someone who writes as though he's barely literate, making an argument that the only game which is truly "good" is the one at which you are inherently better than everyone else without needing to try, and therefore need never lose. I'm not surprised you liked Diablo 3.
That's my honest feelings about your blog and responses to people's posts. You're welcome.
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On March 29 2013 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: Uninstall and move on with your life.
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On March 30 2013 00:17 SOyuncastor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 23:56 EchOne wrote: I hope other functions of etiquette such as bowing, hand shaking, or saying "Good morning," don't bother you this much. Protip: no one really means any of that. People wish you "Good morning" when their morning has been shit and they don't really care how your morning goes. Maybe they're insufferable "hipocrits" and you should quit associating with them.
I have many problems with SC2 but if you quit simply because you lose, I don't know what to say. Maybe you're just not cut out for competition, or anything involving losing or stress. Hand shaking or saying "good morning" does not bother me at all. I do not bow as it is something it's not necessary around here. I know people does not really means that, that's why I don't write it back. I just want an option so I can no longer read what the other is talking or an automatic response to those lines. This could be a conditionated response. Some people get happy when they read that, some people doesn't. I'm just suggesting blizzard an option for the people like me who rages about that annoying little thing, to help us avoid getting mad. Let me choose to click on a little box in the options menu: "write down GL HF automatically" or "Don't show chat from now on" I don't think I'm asking too much. I mean, it has been years and you can all see this it's not good for my health. And I know I can't be the only one in the planet.
You need to focus on this internally or not play. There is a reason I don't play SC2 during the week, and its mostly because I am an wreck when I get home from work. I used to, like someone who keeps staying out to late and being a zombie at work. It ruined my record, made me dislike playing and felt like I was wasting my time.
Now I don't care if I win or lose unranked games and I'm not trying to make it to masters or diamond any more. I have accepted the fact I don't have the time to do so, so I accept my limites and try to just enjoy playing. I jump into unranked game when I want to mess around and do stargate openings vs terran.
The game isn't going to change. Your relationship to it and your opponents is the only thing you have control over. The game is more fun when you don't really care.
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This is the most pessimistic thing I have ever heard. It looks like you have taken every single thing (not many) you can complain about in StarCraft and found some way to tear it to shreds without any form of real logic or reason.
"Even masters and pros are hating this game"...false.
If you are this pessimistic in your real life, good luck. Because you won't go anywhere with it.
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Start playing UMS games. Tons of fun and literally no stress. And a nice community!
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I quit six months ago after spending the same amount of time you have (but I did hit Masters)and have recently started playing again. I realized that I still love the game (players can be gigantic douchenozzles).
Take a break from ALL of Starcraft, not just the game.
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On March 29 2013 17:14 SOyuncastor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: Uninstall and move on with your life. Stop trying to like something if you've never found a point at which you could say you enjoyed this game.
If you're coming to stop cussing out everyone who says anything remotely related to the game, the developers, the company and starting to get cynical: it's obvious that this is just a poisonous game for you.
Seriously: uninstall, move on. You're not gaining anything by forcing yourself to play and you're wasting time when you could do something that doesn't incite such behavior from you. If you can't enjoy it, then don't play it.
Go to bed, wake up, read this shit and tell me if that's really how you want to talk and act from something you bought and wanted to play and enjoy.
If not, then the decision is obvious. You know that is actually a good advise. The thing is, people get addicted to stress, it gets you angry and you release chemicals that once are gone, you need your fix. it's like a soft drug that this game is doing to all of us. And maybe that's why I can't leave it. Sometimes I play because I am so stressed from work that I can shout inside this game and that's all right, instead of doing it to people on real life. If I get angry at the game and a ngry at people who writes EACH GAME "gl hf" like they are some sort of fanatical religion member, it helps at the end to release (and produce) stress. It's just that I find it ridiculous to read every game GL HF after this long. I mean, it has been YEARS reading the same thing over and over and over.... there has to be some sort of automatic blocking chat or automatic answering command to that annoying msg you see on the screen. If you don't think it's wrong, you could be thinking the same as I do after 10, 20, 30 years.
What in the actual heck? How is this remotely bothersome?
I write this everygame, although I write gg hf; because let's be honest, I don't want me opponent having good luck. I do however want him to play well (the gg part) and enjoy it (the hf part). I mean it everygame I write. Not sure what you are referring about with the hypocrisy part.
The game is stressing because you keep losing and losing and losing, hell, I even managed to finish a damn career at my university and I keep failing at this fucking game.
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No idea what you are talking about here. Losing = stressful? Huh?
Since when does it matter whether or not you win. If you played poorly and lost, then it would make sense to be irritated at yourself, but if I play poorly and win I'm equally as annoyed as if I played poorly and won. If I played great and lost, I'm not stressed either because I did the best I could and now have things I can look at in the replay to see why, even playing well, I lost.
You can't control whether or not you win or lose, only how you play. It makes absolutely no sense to get frustrated or mad because you are winning or losing.
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Your whole point on losing is incredibly childish. Everyone loses at everything, no matter how good they are. The very best sports teams in their leagues still lose plenty of games. The worlds best golfers still lose tournaments, the worlds best fighters still lose fights, etc etc. What you are bitching about is extremely common and natural. how can something be competitive if 1 person ALWAYS wins everytime? You need to grow up and realize you lose alot because you dont put the work in to get better. You decided to take time to make this rant, when you could of used that time to study your play and work on builds/timings/macro/micro etc. That alone shows the failure you experience is directly related to your attitude.
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There's no point in making a job or career out of something that doesn't make you money. Just play for fun...the cost of stress is too much for whatever gains you make by moving up the ladder.
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you finished university and youre acting like this?
jesus dude grow a pair of fucking nuts.
either play the game(ITS IS A GAME REMEMBER THAT) or find some other game.
I dont know what league you are, but if you cant consistently get to high level of master you need to chill. If it was going to happen it wouldve happened in 2 years. Some people can, some people cant
me and my friend started playing at same time and hes actually played more than me but I hit GM/high master every season, hes still in plat.(he has same mindset as you) coincidence?
It sounds like you need to get out more relax and (possibly) get a girlfriend. Also the gym thing sounds like a good idea with the diabetes and all.
I go to school full time, work, have a gf, workout and play SC2 at a GM level(though hard to reach GM for me since I have so much to do, cant get the required games in) So if I can do it, so can you.
but change your mindset. learn to lose, then youll learn to win. Thats what I did
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I think your diabetes is messing with your brain. If its type 2, I suggest diet and exercise.
Take care!
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This could probably help you. It works wonders for me.
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On March 30 2013 07:57 SoOJuuu wrote: you finished university and youre acting like this?
jesus dude grow a pair of fucking nuts.
Great advice, you should work for a hotline that helps people in emotional trouble.
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I really like starcraft, both in wins and loses, mostly because i see improvement, and it feels rewarding in a way nothing else does.
On March 29 2013 20:51 a_flayer wrote: Every time you lose, somebody else wins. So true, never thought about in that way :>
On March 30 2013 09:26 Mr. Black wrote:This could probably help you. It works wonders for me.
Omg lol, i am taking those aswell... but its because i have socialphobia.
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On March 30 2013 07:57 SoOJuuu wrote: you finished university and youre acting like this?
jesus dude grow a pair of fucking nuts.
either play the game(ITS IS A GAME REMEMBER THAT) or find some other game.
I dont know what league you are, but if you cant consistently get to high level of master you need to chill. If it was going to happen it wouldve happened in 2 years. Some people can, some people cant
me and my friend started playing at same time and hes actually played more than me but I hit GM/high master every season, hes still in plat.(he has same mindset as you) coincidence?
It sounds like you need to get out more relax and (possibly) get a girlfriend. Also the gym thing sounds like a good idea with the diabetes and all.
I go to school full time, work, have a gf, workout and play SC2 at a GM level(though hard to reach GM for me since I have so much to do, cant get the required games in) So if I can do it, so can you.
but change your mindset. learn to lose, then youll learn to win. Thats what I did
Of course I can do it, you still on school remember? Profesionally I do fine, as a matter of fact I'm doing really good. I work on my carreer where the pay is kinda low, but very regarding and challenging.
But in the game, all my efforts are showing nothing and that frustrates me greatly. I also have to exercise, not because I wanna bang some chick, but because I have diabetes, so this isn't to please my ego or anything like that. I also have a gf which has a career too. So anything you are telling me to get... I have it already.
Like I said, in this game, you expend resources (like all of us do) but it doesn't show sometimes, and I wouldn't mind having an option after working a whole day and fixing problems in the real world, to stop reading "gl hf"... Believe it or not, but sometimes, you don't wanna talk to strangers... for some weird reason.
BTW, I'm amazed you think university has a direct link with sc2 in my life. Both are very different things. As you can see I'm only complaining on an option of a game, not on my working field. That's going very very well. I just need SC2 to get mad so I won't get mad with people in real life. I thought I was clear on that.
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On March 30 2013 09:26 Mr. Black wrote:This could probably help you. It works wonders for me.
Thanks for the link. Today I learned something new. It's not depression what I have (I used to) but I think its tiredness. I work in a enviroment that requires to speak 3 hours at groups of people and providing solutions for like another 4 hours and that is really exhausting when I get home. I just want to release stress without the hassle of chatting.
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On March 30 2013 08:36 guN-viCe wrote: I think your diabetes is messing with your brain. If its type 2, I suggest diet and exercise.
Take care!
Not only that but I have to take insulin. And you know how that is.
And I agree with your opinion. An excess of alcohol messes with the brain, so why shouldn't be the same with an excess of glucosa?.
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On March 30 2013 11:02 SOyuncastor wrote:Thanks for the link. Today I learned something new. It's not depression what I have (I used to) but I think its tiredness. I work in a enviroment that requires to speak 3 hours at groups of people and providing solutions for like another 4 hours and that is really exhausting when I get home. I just want to release stress without the hassle of chatting.
You've gotten a better range of responses than you deserve from your OP.
Dude, if you don't want to heed the obvious advice which has been stated earlier in the thread (i.e. uninstall the game), it may be best to not play on work days. SC2 is a demanding and exhausting game. Why play it after regular work days where you are just tired? If you want to play a game after work, play something else, or play SC2 team games and have fun. And if you really want to release stress, get some high intensity exercise in. Join a boxing fitness group, play squash, or something similar, but don't sit down in front of a monitor for hours. SC2 multiplayer is not a good way to release stress, unwind, and have fun.
Keep your serious SC2 gaming to the weekends where you are in a better frame of mind. I am not sure if you are happy in your work, either, but a lot of people aren't and get by regardless - so that's neither here nor there.
Oh, and good luck, good gaming, have fun!
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"No pain, No gain" Only this time what you will be gaining aint money, but ranks. Viewing it as a job is entirely wrong already.. unless you have sponsors.
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I'm speechless, here have a star.
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In regards to the OP, it surprises me how many people have this negative mentality to this game. I still enjoy this game and I find it ever more interesting as I get better at it. In fact, I LIKE losing games, and I PREFER to lose games, especially in 1v1. The reason is that there is so much more you can LEARN from a loss than a win. I guess people don't have this objective perspective to this game. A loss is not a excuse to vent your frustration, it is rather an opportunity to see your mistakes and learn from it (especially with such an advanced replay feature in your hands). If you fail to see an avenue for which you can improve, then I guess each loss is just simply frustration.
When I started playing 1v1s, I got to masters fairly quickly (about 3 game play days), and I eagerly looked forward to every loss. I didn't start playing expecting myself to have perfect godlike mechanics, where every loss is caused by the opponent doing stupid shit. Instead I started playing, knowing that every aspect of my play is flawed, and each loss is simply a pointer towards the areas that I was weak in. Anyways, I hope everyone who reads this will find it insightful, and perhaps see this game from a different mentality.
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On March 30 2013 04:01 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 17:14 SOyuncastor wrote:On March 29 2013 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: Uninstall and move on with your life. Stop trying to like something if you've never found a point at which you could say you enjoyed this game.
If you're coming to stop cussing out everyone who says anything remotely related to the game, the developers, the company and starting to get cynical: it's obvious that this is just a poisonous game for you.
Seriously: uninstall, move on. You're not gaining anything by forcing yourself to play and you're wasting time when you could do something that doesn't incite such behavior from you. If you can't enjoy it, then don't play it.
Go to bed, wake up, read this shit and tell me if that's really how you want to talk and act from something you bought and wanted to play and enjoy.
If not, then the decision is obvious. You know that is actually a good advise. The thing is, people get addicted to stress, it gets you angry and you release chemicals that once are gone, you need your fix. it's like a soft drug that this game is doing to all of us. And maybe that's why I can't leave it. Sometimes I play because I am so stressed from work that I can shout inside this game and that's all right, instead of doing it to people on real life. If I get angry at the game and a ngry at people who writes EACH GAME "gl hf" like they are some sort of fanatical religion member, it helps at the end to release (and produce) stress. It's just that I find it ridiculous to read every game GL HF after this long. I mean, it has been YEARS reading the same thing over and over and over.... there has to be some sort of automatic blocking chat or automatic answering command to that annoying msg you see on the screen. If you don't think it's wrong, you could be thinking the same as I do after 10, 20, 30 years. What in the actual heck? How is this remotely bothersome? I write this everygame, although I write gg hf; because let's be honest, I don't want me opponent having good luck. I do however want him to play well (the gg part) and enjoy it (the hf part). I mean it everygame I write. Not sure what you are referring about with the hypocrisy part. Show nested quote +The game is stressing because you keep losing and losing and losing, hell, I even managed to finish a damn career at my university and I keep failing at this fucking game. ? No idea what you are talking about here. Losing = stressful? Huh? Since when does it matter whether or not you win. If you played poorly and lost, then it would make sense to be irritated at yourself, but if I play poorly and win I'm equally as annoyed as if I played poorly and won. If I played great and lost, I'm not stressed either because I did the best I could and now have things I can look at in the replay to see why, even playing well, I lost. You can't control whether or not you win or lose, only how you play. It makes absolutely no sense to get frustrated or mad because you are winning or losing.
Well aren't you a paragon of tryhard gaming. It makes no sense to get frustrated or mad about winning or losing? It makes no sense to make stuck-up condescending posts bashing people for how they feel. Progamers can get very emotional when they win or lose. They don't ignore stress, they use it to fuel their desire to win. It's unbecoming to have some C- hotshot showing other players the path to nirvana.
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On March 30 2013 10:55 SOyuncastor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:57 SoOJuuu wrote: you finished university and youre acting like this?
jesus dude grow a pair of fucking nuts.
either play the game(ITS IS A GAME REMEMBER THAT) or find some other game.
I dont know what league you are, but if you cant consistently get to high level of master you need to chill. If it was going to happen it wouldve happened in 2 years. Some people can, some people cant
me and my friend started playing at same time and hes actually played more than me but I hit GM/high master every season, hes still in plat.(he has same mindset as you) coincidence?
It sounds like you need to get out more relax and (possibly) get a girlfriend. Also the gym thing sounds like a good idea with the diabetes and all.
I go to school full time, work, have a gf, workout and play SC2 at a GM level(though hard to reach GM for me since I have so much to do, cant get the required games in) So if I can do it, so can you.
but change your mindset. learn to lose, then youll learn to win. Thats what I did Of course I can do it, you still on school remember? Profesionally I do fine, as a matter of fact I'm doing really good. I work on my carreer where the pay is kinda low, but very regarding and challenging. But in the game, all my efforts are showing nothing and that frustrates me greatly. I also have to exercise, not because I wanna bang some chick, but because I have diabetes, so this isn't to please my ego or anything like that. I also have a gf which has a career too. So anything you are telling me to get... I have it already. Like I said, in this game, you expend resources (like all of us do) but it doesn't show sometimes, and I wouldn't mind having an option after working a whole day and fixing problems in the real world, to stop reading "gl hf"... Believe it or not, but sometimes, you don't wanna talk to strangers... for some weird reason. BTW, I'm amazed you think university has a direct link with sc2 in my life. Both are very different things. As you can see I'm only complaining on an option of a game, not on my working field. That's going very very well. I just need SC2 to get mad so I won't get mad with people in real life. I thought I was clear on that.
Are you OCD? Is it really that hard to just ignore the "GL HF" and to not chat? You say it makes you mad and that you play Starcraft to get out the angry inside of you; I'm going to highly recommend you see a psychiatrist. You sound like quite an unstable personality and the fact that your everyday life builds up this kind of rage inside you, and that you feel the need to release this rage(yet you don't want to chat, you seem to contradict yourself. how do you rage if you don't type anything you just shout at the scren?), is probably not healthy at all. Honestly reading your rant I feel scared for whoever has to work with you as you seem like the kind of guy who one day says he has enough and slaughters his gf and co-workers.
Also why the hell do you "invest resources" in this game and expect to get better randomly? Seeing how mad you get about GL HF, your probably the kind of guy who rage-quits about balance whenever you lose rather then accepting that you messed up. Playing 4-5 games a day won't get you any better unless you have a great mindset.
In all honesty, take a breath, go smoke some pot, chill out, and if you still don't like SC, quit and play a game like CoD where you can mindlessly let out your aggression and feel like your getting "better" every game.
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to OP:
If you are not improving, have you considered getting a coach?
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Well well well look at what we have here. This is a funny blog to go to right after reading Torti's blog lol. I think we have a case of someone who's "Intentionally Ignoring Rational Thought" hu hu hu.
Let's see what we can do. Let's examine the options that would potentially alleviate you from all this frustration.
1. Get better at the game 2. Uninstall the game 3. Pinpoint what frustrates you and learn to feel pleasure from it, or feel nothing that works too
Number 1 is pretty straight forward, usually people who have their head on completely straight will naturally gravitate towards that option. Number 2 is more for people who have their priorities really straight, OP has a job and pussy already, but still plays so maybe his priorities need tweaking (a friend a mine is paid well and has sex friends, he straight up quit the game, that is a man of priorities). Number 3 is what most of us gun for I think. We love the game, yet it frustrates us to play it. Those who want to stick to the game without suffering need to figure themselves out, not figure the game out.
I hope listing those options wasn't snarky, it's just easier to read imo.
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Whatever you do don't try BW. lol
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You say people hate it because they are always losing.. doesn't that mean someone else is always winning and therefore loving it? =P
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There is a game for everyone. 1v1 SC2 is a game that requires time and practice more than others. In ladder - you can be sure to get cheesed a lot. Just by practising defending cheese play you can league up pretty fast. There are master players that do not know how to play well all around - people that are masters because of very well executed cheese tactics. But that is a good thing. You need to be able to defend that stuff to be a master player.
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If you 1) hate the game and 2) it's painful to play, but you still play every day, I'm pretty sure that means you're addicted to a video game lol.
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I felt the same way right before I quit playing SC2.
I don't know what it is about SC. I played Everquest and Wow for years, and never felt angry. You may same those games are nothing like SC2, but I also played War 3 and never felt angry at the game.
I think what really makes SC2 maddening is that you know exactly where you stand on the ladder. So you feel the need to improve.
With War 3, All I knew was what my record was. I didn't care about ladder. I cared more about playing Burb TD, or Dota. PLaying a game or two as undead was just something to goof on. Tower rushig with undead was wicked fun by the way.
Anyway I moved on. I don't think I will play anything as competative as SC2 again. Lesson learned.
I started playing D2 again. Single player is a lot of fun, since you can have a muling program. I got a sorc up to 80. She is good at farming AT and Meph.
Lots of fun, no pressure. It feels good to find uniques.
Definitely take a break and play something fun for a while.
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