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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#21
Yay, I'm not tone-deaf.

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Probably. 58.3%
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:13:26
February 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#22
On February 03 2013 03:07 hypercube wrote:
Yay, I'm not tone-deaf.

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Probably. 58.3%


Same as me
Not tone deaf but close.
How's your singing? Mine is great, it just comes out of my throat a bit rotten and everyone starts running
Which is, of course, no reason to not sing when I'm drunk, besides the occasional friends lost.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:23:59
February 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#23
On February 03 2013 03:00 Zandar wrote:
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On February 03 2013 02:56 micronesia wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:54 wo1fwood wrote:
I was like half paying attention and scored %91.7.

This reminds me of those people who "never study and always get maximum grades because of how easy it is." You should be a bit more humble... even on the internet lol.


Aye lol, I wish we could see a list of recent results to see how many of those 90+ results are actually there
On the other hand, maybe we gamers are more adepted to computer tones?

Sorry, wan't intending to be a dick. Like monk said, I am a classically trained composer, so I should be scoring well on this kind of test as its very similar to a lot of aural skills testing that musicians do in college.

Also its very likely that helps, considering the basic synthesis techniques that have been used from early games. The more familiar you are to these things the more adept you'll probably be at identification.

Edit: ok, so I made a more concerted effort to actually listen, and scored %97.2.

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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#24
On February 03 2013 03:11 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 03:07 hypercube wrote:
Yay, I'm not tone-deaf.

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Probably. 58.3%


Same as me
Not tone deaf but close.
How's your singing? Mine is great, it just comes out of my throat a bit rotten


IDK, no one heard it and lived to tell the tale. I guess if singing and music were a core economic subject I would have been considered special.

Seriously, I can't sing and can't play any musical insturment
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:15:16
February 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#25
What is the relation between how you do on a test like this, and how your singing is? When I try to sing my voice doesn't sound to me like what it does to someone listening (to their dismay); this is independent of how good I am at recognizing music I listen to that isn't produced within my own body.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#26
Because if you are near tone deaf you have a problem to sing the proper tones, so you sing a lot more false tones compared to someone who's not that tone deaf I think.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 02 2013 18:18 GMT
#27
77.8 and I've been playing music for some time. I know I messed up some of them unnecessarily, so I feel like a noob. It doesn't seem to me like the "seldom above 80" thing would be quite true, though.
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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
February 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#28
83.3% Correct
I play music, but I'm only a drummer (of ~5 - 6 years)
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G_G
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada178 Posts
February 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#29
On February 03 2013 03:15 micronesia wrote:
What is the relation between how you do on a test like this, and how your singing is? When I try to sing my voice doesn't sound to me like what it does to someone listening (to their dismay); this is independent of how good I am at recognizing music I listen to that isn't produced within my own body.


I couldn't sing twinkle twinkle little star even half decently to save my life. I don't think it makes a difference.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:25:34
February 02 2013 18:21 GMT
#30
On February 03 2013 03:13 wo1fwood wrote:
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On February 03 2013 03:00 Zandar wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:56 micronesia wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:54 wo1fwood wrote:
I was like half paying attention and scored %91.7.

This reminds me of those people who "never study and always get maximum grades because of how easy it is." You should be a bit more humble... even on the internet lol.


Aye lol, I wish we could see a list of recent results to see how many of those 90+ results are actually there
On the other hand, maybe we gamers are more adepted to computer tones?

Sorry, wan't intending to be a dick. Like monk said, I am a classically trained composer, so I should be scoring well on this kind of test as its very similar to a lot of aural skills testing that musicians do in college.

Also its very likely that helps, considering the basic synthesis techniques that have been used from early games. The more familiar you are to these things the more adept you'll probably be at identification.


It's true, but it's also talent.
I can play some random keys on the piano and my brother knows which notes/tones they were, just by hearing.
I can't even hear if it's false or not.

He can explain to me why Bach is so perfect mathematicly, many complex melodies on top of eachother. Perfect harmony. I can understand it, but I cannot hear why it's so perfect.
Because I cannot hear it if those melodies together produce false tones or not.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
February 02 2013 18:22 GMT
#31
On February 03 2013 03:20 G_G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 03:15 micronesia wrote:
What is the relation between how you do on a test like this, and how your singing is? When I try to sing my voice doesn't sound to me like what it does to someone listening (to their dismay); this is independent of how good I am at recognizing music I listen to that isn't produced within my own body.


I couldn't sing twinkle twinkle little star even half decently to save my life. I don't think it makes a difference.

I would guess you are right, but it seems like many people link your abilities on a test like this with your singing abilities... that seems incorrect to me. Maybe being tone deaf in the context of this test can hurt, but I doubt that it's the only factor that contributes to why your singing sounds worse to you then to an observer.
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
February 02 2013 18:22 GMT
#32
Man, I thought I was doing horribly as I went through this, but 86.1%. I basically relied on remembering the rhythm and seeing if either phrase sounded like it had "wrong notes" in it. Only a few sounded like they weren't even close.

I played the flute all through high school, but was never that serious about it; I never practiced outside of school and haven't touched it since. I do listen to a fair amount of classical, though. I'll have my wife try it later, she took classical piano lessons for 8 years or so and always did well at competitions.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
February 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#33
On February 03 2013 03:17 Zandar wrote:
Because if you are near tone deaf you have a problem to sing the proper tones, so you sing a lot more false tones compared to someone who's not that tone deaf I think.

But it doesn't work the other way around -- having perfect pitch won't make you a good singer.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#34
On February 03 2013 03:24 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 03:17 Zandar wrote:
Because if you are near tone deaf you have a problem to sing the proper tones, so you sing a lot more false tones compared to someone who's not that tone deaf I think.

But it doesn't work the other way around -- having perfect pitch won't make you a good singer.


Yes that's true, only goes the other way.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
February 02 2013 18:28 GMT
#35
On February 03 2013 03:22 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 03:20 G_G wrote:
On February 03 2013 03:15 micronesia wrote:
What is the relation between how you do on a test like this, and how your singing is? When I try to sing my voice doesn't sound to me like what it does to someone listening (to their dismay); this is independent of how good I am at recognizing music I listen to that isn't produced within my own body.


I couldn't sing twinkle twinkle little star even half decently to save my life. I don't think it makes a difference.

I would guess you are right, but it seems like many people link your abilities on a test like this with your singing abilities... that seems incorrect to me. Maybe being tone deaf in the context of this test can hurt, but I doubt that it's the only factor that contributes to why your singing sounds worse to you then to an observer.

Being able to hear these rhythmic/harmonic or timbral differences really well, and being able to reproduce them with accuracy on your voice are somewhat different skills, though there is a lot of overlap (like being able to hear should help in reproduction, but I've known a lot of musicians who can identify these differences, but cant reproduce them vocally).

What this guy is testing isn't whether you can sing back pitches accurately, but how well you can recognize the aforementioned changes.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
February 02 2013 18:34 GMT
#36
Never had musical instruction

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Apparently I'm super talented yet I dont know jackshit about music at all, don't even play any instrument...
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:38:14
February 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#37
Btw I used 'false', since that's the dutch word for 2 tones who don't sound good together, not sure if that's the word in English too.
I google translated 'valse toon' and it gave me 'false tone'
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#38
Shit's too eazeh.
Sicion
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany131 Posts
February 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#39
I got a score of 86.1 %
28 years old male with no music experience except singing when i drive to work and back.
There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want.
G_G
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada178 Posts
February 02 2013 18:43 GMT
#40
I thought about it some more, and I realized that through exercises and tests from my teachers and some music courses, I've actually spent several hundred hours at least (over 16 years) just listening to music and having to tap out the rhythm or identify some other aspect of what I had heard. One thing my second guitar teacher did was play a short passage of a piece he knows but I don't, that has two melodies, and then I would play back each of the melodies separately. I think that's why I heard differences between clips that had no difference in the melody, because I was listening to the whole thing by habit. I would actually like a program that generated a random melody and bass line/second melody (doesn't have to sound good), and then a second one with a minor change. It would actually be good practice.

I'm starting to think this is like IQ tests, where the more you take, the better you get at them, even though you're not actually getting any smarter in general, just better at IQ tests.
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