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$7000 Fraud Situation Part #1

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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 06:16:43
February 02 2013 06:07 GMT
#1
I'm supposed to be studying for my midterm right now, so pretty much I don't want to, and felt like I should share my story that recently happened to me but I haven't had the chance to blog about it yet. Now that I've calmed down about the situation, maybe it'll be a warning to others, and educational experience. Almost 19y/o engineering student in one of Canada's safest cities btw.

December 20th, just last year, a "friend" I met at a party a year back (we hungout 5~ times after that) messages me on facebook. The kid was from some highschool party, he was really good friends with a dealer from my grade, but he himself, he was only in Grade 10. Anyways, so he shoots me a message, and he tells me if I could cash a cheque for him his mom gave him for Christmas, $200. Eh, what the hell, he said he will give me $10 bucks, and I'd be improving a relationship, why not, he doesn't have as TD account, maybe you can't cash cheques without having an account with them, I had that issue with Scotia Bank at one point in life.

Anyways, he tells me that his cousin and him will pick me up at 6:00pm, they ask me where, well I'm at my house, might as well just give them my address. I get in the car, a beautiful 20 or so year old woman driving this dark crocodile green jeep, the cousin next to her, covered in tattoo's, maybe 25. I take a seat in the back with Jake, he didn't seem in the talking mood too much, I figured he's just high, eyes seemed red.

Quick side story, I was supposed to hangout with my friend, and they were late, and so my friend actually arrived to my house and well I didn't want to leave her there, so I told them, she's gonna come with us, drive behind your car, and I'll go chill with her after we finish the situation.

The initial reaction was a little hesitant, I guess it wasn't what I was expecting, but we started moving and the cousin started talking, he seemed like a really nice guy, and any stressed sort of cleared. I felt secure, anyways, small chat on the way to the bank with the cousin really. We talked about what I do, and anyways, not too important, oh I found out he just got out of jail recently and isn't allowed to have any bank accounts or anything.

We come to the stop at a parking lot next to the bank, nobody is getting out and there is a brisk silence. The cousin pulls out a pistol and tells me the run down. Not a $200 cheque, a $6800 dollar cheque. I've been in shitty situations like this before, maybe this helped my composure, don't try any funny shit, "I shot someone and that's why I went in before, and nobody is putting me back there again." On the outside, I seemed calm. My brain was deep in thought, what could I do here? I come inside, there is only one person in the line, damn I wish I had more time. Should I just tell them they can't cash it? Should I just turnaround, give him the cheque back, and tell him no?

In the next split second I possibly make the most passive aggressive decisions I've made in my life, that put me into 16 days of hell. I bring out my phone, "hun, trust me now, get their license plate on their jeep, and come back in 15 mins, ily <3". The cheque needs to be validated, this bank had one of the validation machines, otherwise it takes 5~ business days. I wait 15-20 minutes (it's something that needs to be done on every cheque over $2500 here. I come out, walk to the jeep, hand him $6500, "$300 for the bullshit stunt you pulled man". As I walk to any direction, just to seem like I'm going somewhere while waiting for my friend to come back.

Here is where I got confused, the cheque was fine, if it was fake, they'd take the money out of my account, but no, it's fine! So the cheque will go through, and I just made myself $300. We were supposed to go to some lights in the zoo, but it was getting pretty late, so we just went to the bar I work at, had the daily special, a couple beers, and headed home. Kind of dropped the situation, but when I did get home, I'm curious. Am I allowed to be safe? I start reading all kinds of cheque fraud articles, and curious what can happen. Turns out - the cheque takes a few days to go through, and an account can be closed before it's processed, fucking me over in the process.

Quickly I assumed the worst. Well shit, what did I have on this guy... Jake, the cousin's brother, I've slept at his mom's house, his dad's house, had his phone number, have him on facebook, know a couple of his close friends. The cousin, well shit, was he really his cousin? To this day I don't know, apparently though, he was. What info did I have on him? His cellphone number, and his license plate, in some way associated to Jake (maybe just paid the kid), and a cute 20 year old, convict, carries a weapon. What to do...

Now next day, I start searching for Jeeps online. 2000-2004 models in dark green is what I'm looking for, if any recently sold. In the meantime, I'm texting the fucker cousin, threatening him with cops, and well, initially the plan I had, not as smart I thought. I was going to go to the police station right away, but what do I tell them? How can they hope to find him? And do I want a person who was in jail for 7 years for murdering someone while drunk with a gun after me, a guy who KNOWS where I live? Kept asking where I was, "out with friends the reply each time". I made sure to never be at my house, always asking a friend here or there to stay over, but fuck, when we were talking in the car, I even managed to tell him where I work.

Cops were sort of out of the question, I needed the money back, $6500 is a lot of money, and I think it wasn't even the money that made me take this route of approach, it's fact that I hate frauding so much, and if I just gave him the cheque, he'd do it to some other unprepared person another day, nope, I wasn't going to take this shit, he will learn not to mess with kids like this. I hopped into my car, told Jessica (lets call her that, the girl that was with me there), what happened, and we started diving around the city. Every used car dealership. We started in the southwest of the city, close to where Jake's parents lived, and were going asking around asking for records of sales from all managers. If they sold a dark green jeep to a tall built tribal-tattooed man, possibly with a younger blonde woman, told them it was a stolen vehicle, and that the cops need identification before they can begin a search for said people for us. This was all total bullshit, and it was all we had, and pretty sure every owner knew they didn't have the right to give away those details.

This way day four since the incident, it was a long shot, but we agreed to meet up on the morning of the 23rd and we went searching. First two places turned us down, they didn't say we can't do this, but they really made no effort to do anything, I asked really nicely, but the man at each dealership said "I don't think so", that was that. This was taking a really long time, we went to two dealerships in 4 hours to learn absolutely nothing, I told Jessica, few more hours, and if we have no luck today, we will just drop this, I'll go talk to Jake, I don't care, nobody steals $7000 and gets away with it. I know where the fucking kid lives, if his cousin tries to go after me, I'm not just going to stand there, you know I've had shit in life I've had to deal with before. We have been friends for some time, she disagrees with lots of choices I make, this one was no exception, almost always I manage to prove her wrong, but when I looked into her eyes, I was unsure whether I could this time. Google maps, the next dealership, they gave me access to their computer to see the sales for Q3 and Q4 of 2012, couldn't find what we were looking for, but I could not believe they gave us their records like that, it gave me hope that maybe we could find something.

Holy shit, holy SHIT, 4th dealership, an address we could actually go to, a car were looking for, looks like it, yeah there's many cars like this in the city, but MAYBE?!. Starting to really feel like Sherlock Holmes.

I gotta go study, I really didn't think this would take this long to write, just the background to what happened took forever, and it's hardly as detailed as I wanted to, and I feel like I'm rushing it already. I'm maybe 40-50% done, sorry for leaving it at a cliffhanger spot like this, I'll finish it in the coming days. This definitely will be one of the memorable experiences in life, one that I am pretty proud of doing in the end, and I hope you enjoyed the read so far. Please lookout for the second section.

If anything wasn't clarified, or if anyone wants more background about something, or my thought process, feel free to ask.

Cheers!

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2013 06:13 GMT
#2
oh man what a tease I want to know what happened :D
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iSCOUT4u
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States327 Posts
February 02 2013 06:21 GMT
#3
No man. Why would you cash that check? Should have called the cops once inside the bank and after telling ur friend that was tagging along to go hide somewhere. Guy probably is on probation or has warrants.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 02 2013 06:23 GMT
#4
Is this thing resolved already tho? :s
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 02 2013 06:26 GMT
#5
On February 02 2013 15:21 iSCOUT4u wrote:
No man. Why would you cash that check? Should have called the cops once inside the bank and after telling ur friend that was tagging along to go hide somewhere. Guy probably is on probation or has warrants.


It's all low time to analyse the situation, also keep in mind, this is something nobody expects this to happen to them ever. I still question how safe of a choice that would've been. I think in Part 2 (when I get to it), the way it ended for me it was better than if I called 911 inside the bank.

On February 02 2013 15:23 Bluelightz wrote:
Is this thing resolved already tho? :s


About two weeks ago, yes.
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BlueZebra
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 06:36:06
February 02 2013 06:34 GMT
#6
hmmm seems like its already happened but didn't you say an gun is involved. I don't really care if you even got all the money back, its was an stupid thing to go hunting for them. I hope in the second part you don't actually risk your life for money.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
February 02 2013 06:48 GMT
#7
Holy shit that was all over the place. Insanely hard to comprehend. Less please, fix all the terrible formatting like this. Lovely to read it would be.

Seriously I had a stupidly hard time following the story, there were soo many incomplete sentences.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 02 2013 06:56 GMT
#8
On February 02 2013 15:48 iTzSnypah wrote:
Holy shit that was all over the place. Insanely hard to comprehend. Less please, fix all the terrible formatting like this. Lovely to read it would be.

Seriously I had a stupidly hard time following the story, there were soo many incomplete sentences.


Apologies, yeah all of the sudden I felt there was so much content, I'll sit down and look at the text and improve the flow. There's lots of content I left out, I don't want to bore the reader by excessive details, although they are needed to understand the situation properly I suppose.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 02 2013 06:57 GMT
#9
Reminds me of that time a guy who had just gotten out of killing a dude with a gun managed to run into me whilst on his path to escape because I noticed him but was too zoned out to care (at a gas station at night with no one else around), so I then proceeded to engineer my way out that. Was kind of fun and worked spectacularly well.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 02 2013 07:44 GMT
#10
Did you just cliffhang me fuck
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 02 2013 07:53 GMT
#11
wat..
Why didn't you just go to the cops...? Did I miss something? He gave you a legit check to cash and pulled a gun out on you to do it, even though you were already doing it?
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 02 2013 07:58 GMT
#12
This is why you keep your head above the shit. Once you're in the shit, it's much harder to do what's right.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 02 2013 08:48 GMT
#13
Dang that cliffhanger D:

That's a ridiculous story though...glad you got out of there okay. Eagerly awaiting the next installment, but in the meantime, good luck studying for midterms and everything!! :D
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Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
February 02 2013 15:09 GMT
#14
Ok, I got lost past the 2nd paragraph. Like, "I was supposed to hangout with my friend, and they were late, and so my friend actually arrived to my house and well I didn't want to leave her there," If your friend was supposed to hang, why did he arrive with the cousin and the woman? Who is Jake? Are "they" the woman and the cousin? Why did he need you to cash the cheque? If it was legit, why did you need the money back? I mean, it wasn't taken out of your account right?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
February 02 2013 15:16 GMT
#15
Quite a strange story; I will sorta echo what others are saying and suggest you hire a biographer to actually write this for you!
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 15:21:59
February 02 2013 15:21 GMT
#16
Man I really wanna know what happens now. Some of it was a little hard to follow, but overall it was really good and I liked the style of it
TheBigO
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States97 Posts
February 02 2013 16:39 GMT
#17
Please write part 2. This was one of the most interesting blogs I have read in a long time.
I really need a better quote... but I have no ideas :( .
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 16:40:30
February 02 2013 16:40 GMT
#18
Why would a mother give their child a $200 check they know they can't cash? o.o

Red flags all over the place. :/
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 02 2013 16:56 GMT
#19
Wtf is that lol!!


do you live in Edmonton??
Its kinda funny to hear a Canadian criminal say '' theyre not taking me alive again ''. yeah dude, just go on a game ending rampage instead of doing your 4 years of jail... meh
gunpoint robberization ftw.
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TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
February 02 2013 16:59 GMT
#20
i know its heat of the moment shit but if they leave you alone..call the cops. wth?

interesting story so far though
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
February 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#21
On February 03 2013 01:59 TylerThaCreator wrote:
i know its heat of the moment shit but if they leave you alone..call the cops. wth?

interesting story so far though


Yeah, if I read things properly, you were in the bank alone, right? You can tell the teller what's going on, describe the car in the next parking lot over, and (s)he'll call the cops for you while making it look like nothing is going on. They would have responded to a call from a bank pretty quickly.
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
February 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#22
You are unbelievably retarded.

Once inside the bank you stand around for 15-20 minutes while they "validate" a check? Why didn't you tell them that some guys were forcing you at gunpoint to cash this check please call the police, then stand around for 15-20 minutes until the cops arrive, then give them the finger.

And then instead of going to the police "Out of the question" you're going to go vigilante justice on some guys that brandished a gun on you.

In before OP gets shot over nothing.
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metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
February 02 2013 19:16 GMT
#23
So~so work of fiction.

Rewrite this and clean up the grammar.
Also you need to tighten up a lot of the story to even make it semi-believable.

Example:
Now if "Jessica" had been in the car with your friend & friend's "cousin," held at gun-point; that would have made it more believable that you cashed the $6800 check (which you gave a gun toting pistoleer only $6500 and kept $300 (because you've go massive balls?))
In order to do that (keep $300 from the tattooed fiend) you need to establish your own character as having a) a chip on his shoulder and wouldn't be told to break the law/threaten your friend, b) being a "big hard hero" (aka Superman complex) or c) showing that you are able to outsmart common thugs, d) etc. This then gives your character some sense of credibility to investigate further.

2/5

A good starting point for a short story.
notprogamer
Profile Joined January 2013
16 Posts
February 02 2013 19:49 GMT
#24
I know how the story ends.

'What did I do, you ask? I whistled for a cab, and when it came near, the license plate said “fresh” and there were dice in the mirror. If anything I could say that this cab was rare, but I thought “naw forget it, yo home to bel-air!” I pulled up to the house about seven or eight and I yelled to the cabbie “yo homes smell ya later!” Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there. To settle my throne as the prince of bel-air.'
ailouros
Profile Joined August 2008
United States193 Posts
February 02 2013 20:36 GMT
#25
So the check still had to go through but you got the full $6800 after waiting in the bank for 30 mins? I don't understand.

You pulled out $6800 of your own funds to give to them while the check is being validated because you deposited it??
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#26
On February 03 2013 04:16 metbull wrote:
Now if "Jessica" had been in the car with your friend & friend's "cousin," held at gun-point; that would have made it more believable that you cashed the $6800 check (which you gave a gun toting pistoleer only $6500 and kept $300 (because you've go massive balls?))

I agree, I can't imagine it going like this:

Gunman: You're going to go in there and get me X exorbitant amount of money, alone, or I'll shoot you!
OP: Okay, whatever man.
*walks in and after a while, back out*
OP: Here's X minus 300 dollars because your petty attempts to threaten my life have inconvenienced me. Count yourself as lucky.
Gunman: Eh, close enough.
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 02 2013 22:50 GMT
#27
CRAZY BRO!!!
So can't wait for part 2, good read
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