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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 17:17:38
January 17 2013 17:08 GMT
#181
in baseball and hockey there are numerous MARRIED players on the Toronto Maple Leafs and Toronto Blue Jays that are screwing 10 women at a time... and nothing is ever written or said about it in the mainstream press.

former Blue Jay GM JP Ricciardi was screwing a 19 year old during 1 year of his tenure with the Toronto Blue Jays.
Nary a word in the mainstream press.

so this "complete freedom of the press" covering sports is incorrect
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Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
January 17 2013 17:19 GMT
#182
Thanks Bill for your insights! Great to read.

The funny thing about it is that EG's complaint over "lost eyeballs" hurting esports may not even be accurate. This debate, while specifically e-sports and journalism, brings into view a lot of topics which many outside of e-sports can come weigh in on, subsequently increasing e-sports' exposure.

To put it shortly, even if Slasher's leaks detract from a team's ad revenue from this or that, the public discussion thereafter increases e-sports' exposure. Who wins?
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StanMarsh
Profile Joined September 2012
United States7 Posts
January 17 2013 21:59 GMT
#183
The thing I got out of the whole debate was that there is this unknown when it comes to E-Sports. That is, it isn't yet at the caliber of a sport where it makes money off of a network deal but still subscriber streams, advertisers, page views, etc. But E-Sports is not a sport, at least here in the west yet. I think both sides of the issue, Alex and Slasher have valid points. Maybe the manner in which Alex handled it was not the best, but he has a point for how the way ESports works currently. That revenue is needed for teams, and if the advertisers are angry about something, it would be the Alex who has to hear it. Slasher has a job where he is paid to find news and publish it for the masses. There should be some sort of a consensus in the community of ESports that allows it a chance to grow as well as become profitable. Plus, a foundation needs to be created between the two sides.
BobLobIaw
Profile Joined April 2012
Oman142 Posts
January 18 2013 06:46 GMT
#184
On January 18 2013 06:59 StanMarsh wrote:
"Maybe the manner in which Alex handled it was not the best."

Really? Maybe?
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bmg4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany74 Posts
January 18 2013 09:23 GMT
#185
On January 18 2013 02:19 Niten wrote:
Thanks Bill for your insights! Great to read.

The funny thing about it is that EG's complaint over "lost eyeballs" hurting esports may not even be accurate. This debate, while specifically e-sports and journalism, brings into view a lot of topics which many outside of e-sports can come weigh in on, subsequently increasing e-sports' exposure.

To put it shortly, even if Slasher's leaks detract from a team's ad revenue from this or that, the public discussion thereafter increases e-sports' exposure. Who wins?



Here is the real funny thing, the way EG presented themselves during that show and their extremly arrogant attitudes on how the whole world should only turn around them has for the most part done way more damage to the reputation of the EG brand then any Slasher or other leak ever.
It is everybody's job to primarily act in their own respectively their employers interest, so even trying to blame Slasher for that is crazy. It is so simple, if you leak information yourself, you can't blame anybody else but yourself. All this talk then about Slasher getting his information from outside sources is completely invalid, since those outside sources at some point got their information from EG. Don't leak what is not supposed to be leaked and if you are at a point where you already have to tell outside sources like leagues about upcoming changes, then it is already official and then you should have had your very own release already.
lvent
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States140 Posts
January 19 2013 14:31 GMT
#186
So I wanted to reply to this with my thoughts I hope its not too late.

As I learned you are writer with ESPN dealing with professional baseball going through some of your past articles(I am a long suffering resident from Pittsburgh...) so I didn't know of you because of my lack of love for baseball presently. I just wanted to bring up a point in regards to the correlation that I see a lot of people doing with Major Sports vs Esports.

In traditional sports, teams and journalists work together, dispassionately. Teams know it is in their best interest to allow them access, even if they may report things they would otherwise want kept secret. That's not to say there are no issues, but there's a reason why there is a strong correlation between a country's freedom of the press, and the overall health of that country (by many measures). It's the same within industries, even as small as e-sports. The more access the press has, the better the industry is overall.


The above quote I feel is very misleading; here are two examples of why I feel this way :

1) Hours before the N.F.L. season began Thursday, ESPN demonstrated what “Monday Night Football” means to the cable empire by renewing it for $15.2 billion through 2021

2) The largest broadcasting deal in Major League Baseball history was announced on Tuesday, as MLB and ESPN reached an eight-year, $5.6 billion agreement that keeps the national pastime on that network through 2021 and puts ESPN back in the postseason picture next season

Now, by paying the NFL, MLB this type of money; they inherently buy the right to write any type of story they feel in my opinion. If Jamison Hensley would dig up some dirt on a move the Steelers were going to make today lets say trading Polamalu to a random team or cutting Harrison before the team could have their own official release it isn't a big deal. Everyone who follows football knows who the Steelers are. They are an established team that has been around forever.

When you make the jump to eSports you are in a world that covers dozens of games and teams that are not fortunate enough to be backed with a yearly income of a billion dollars from a Gamespot or an IGN etc. In my opinion eSports is nowhere near a level that you could compare it to sports like football, baseball, basketball etc. It is an apples to oranges comparison.

You as a blogger for the Phillies in addition to your relationship with ESPN probably gets you press box access(A friend of mine does something similar with the Penguins here). Now assume you have no ties to ESPN and you are just working as your own blogging site. If you would disregard constant request from the Phillies not to write soandso how long do you think it would be until you no longer are on the press list?

A quote that I enjoy that seems to always wrongly get attributed to Mark Twain is "Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel" and I think in the end it is wrong of Slasher to constantly do as there are only so many bridges to burn in something this small presently.

I am going to also assume you are a Flyers fan so I wish you bad luck today~
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