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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 18 2012 22:31 GMT
#21
That sucks. Cold calling on people is so awful. Salesmen used to knock on my door before we moved house and I just didn't have the ability to get them to go away. I felt really bad when they'd get all their stuff out and show it to me over about fifteen minutes and I'd go 'oh I don't think so, bye!'

What's worse is that those people came to your house as ambassadors to their religion, and behaved so poorly.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 18 2012 22:34 GMT
#22
You should take legal action against them for not delivering your bible. Don't know why, just seems like it could be funny ^^
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
December 18 2012 22:41 GMT
#23
I used to get door-to-door Scientologists where I lived in California (there was a church right down the street). Say what you want about the Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses, but at least they send well-dressed young adults to sell you their religion. The Scientologists, on the other hand, sent decrepit old men that I couldn't help but feel sorry for. They probably spent every penny of their retirements ridding their bodies of thetans and were reduced to going door-to-door to pay for their next audits.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 23:10:54
December 18 2012 23:08 GMT
#24
On December 19 2012 07:27 Cokefreak wrote:
Also Prae did you know that Mormons don't even give out real bibles, they give only copies of Book of Mormon which has really nothing to do with the bible.




There's some pretty good evidence for it.

Of course, the real question is: What is a real bible? There's no original, and they've all been edited heavily. Thoughts?
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 18 2012 23:12 GMT
#25
lol why would you ever give any Mormon organization your address, ever.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
December 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#26
On December 19 2012 07:27 Cokefreak wrote:
Also Prae did you know that Mormons don't even give out real bibles, they give only copies of Book of Mormon which has really nothing to do with the bible.


It does copy so many phrases from the bible it hurts the eyes, so that's one way in which the two are related.

I don't feel much sympathy for this situation the OP describes, really. In the end, you had to dismiss a few people twice because you were stupid and filled out a form online. It is well within my imagination that worse things might happen
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hazdur
Profile Joined July 2012
United States19 Posts
December 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#27
Hi, I'm a Mormon.
News flash:
Yes, some Mormons are dorks.

Using my detective skills on this situation, the fact that your mother saw two people, one of which was small, and you saw three, all of which were large, makes me think that you delt with two different groups, and group 1 didn't relay the message to group 2.

Of course, maybe they did, and these guys were just dorks.

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, I have occasionally, in the past, given out an honest to goodness Bible.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#28
On December 19 2012 08:35 hazdur wrote:
Hi, I'm a Mormon.
News flash:
Yes, some Mormons are dorks.

Using my detective skills on this situation, the fact that your mother saw two people, one of which was small, and you saw three, all of which were large, makes me think that you delt with two different groups, and group 1 didn't relay the message to group 2.

Of course, maybe they did, and these guys were just dorks.

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, I have occasionally, in the past, given out an honest to goodness Bible.


So, probably from different branches of the Church in my area?

Okay, that makes a lot more sense now, thanks!
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
December 18 2012 23:38 GMT
#29
On December 19 2012 08:08 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:27 Cokefreak wrote:
Also Prae did you know that Mormons don't even give out real bibles, they give only copies of Book of Mormon which has really nothing to do with the bible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzETrdxVKwo&list=PLob6hcT-V9H9aU6Gjq2kh4JjMl-_Vqa7T&index=19

There's some pretty good evidence for it.

Of course, the real question is: What is a real bible? There's no original, and they've all been edited heavily. Thoughts?

Wow thats an interesting video.
But yea, the Bible and the book of Mormons cannot be compared.

Bible has been debated throughout the early church and ended with an final version I think in Nicea year 325 with high reability on the texts coming from the right schools of tradition and from the right age. Though it had already been widly accepted for a long time the basics of the new testament canon. You should read early church history Very interesting
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#30
I actually got a book of Mormon a few years ago from two friendly Mormon dudes, one was from the States and the other from Russia IIRC, took a look at the book, read a bit from the start, hard to take seriously, some of the stuff in there was just way over the top.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 18 2012 23:54 GMT
#31
On December 19 2012 08:47 Cokefreak wrote:
I actually got a book of Mormon a few years ago from two friendly Mormon dudes, one was from the States and the other from Russia IIRC, took a look at the book, read a bit from the start, hard to take seriously, some of the stuff in there was just way over the top.

Because objectively the bible is much less farfetched, right? [image loading]
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 23:59:49
December 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#32
On December 19 2012 08:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:47 Cokefreak wrote:
I actually got a book of Mormon a few years ago from two friendly Mormon dudes, one was from the States and the other from Russia IIRC, took a look at the book, read a bit from the start, hard to take seriously, some of the stuff in there was just way over the top.

Because objectively the bible is much less farfetched, right? [image loading]

I'm mostly referring to the whole Joseph Smith thing, I'm not religious in any way. But you do have a point.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
December 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#33
On December 19 2012 08:57 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:47 Cokefreak wrote:
I actually got a book of Mormon a few years ago from two friendly Mormon dudes, one was from the States and the other from Russia IIRC, took a look at the book, read a bit from the start, hard to take seriously, some of the stuff in there was just way over the top.

Because objectively the bible is much less farfetched, right? [image loading]

I'm mostly referring to the whole Joseph Smith thing, I'm not religious in any way. But you do have a point.

As far as I'm concerned, outlandish fiction that has survived for thousands of years is simply worth more attention and respect than outlandish fiction from less than 200 years ago that reeks of an ill-conceived attempt at passing off polygamy. But perhaps that's just me.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 19 2012 00:31 GMT
#34
i got cookies yesterday from my local mormons. so, fuck you, mormons rock. =D
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 19 2012 00:46 GMT
#35
Totally worth it IMO.
I mean, you almost got a free Bible.

and not just any Bible, the Holy Bible, it's the best kind there is. Don't give up, this is just another trial by the Lord. What is turning away a few dozen mormons compared to endless enjoyable moments in front of the fireplace, learning the words of wisdom from the greatest product of literary genius ever handed down from the heavens by the Lord.

There is another way though, known by only a few: some newspapers have snippets of the bible in each issue. With a small effort and 0 cost you'll be able to put together your very own Bible, with zero mormons involved.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 01:11:57
December 19 2012 01:08 GMT
#36
On December 19 2012 09:19 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:57 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:47 Cokefreak wrote:
I actually got a book of Mormon a few years ago from two friendly Mormon dudes, one was from the States and the other from Russia IIRC, took a look at the book, read a bit from the start, hard to take seriously, some of the stuff in there was just way over the top.

Because objectively the bible is much less farfetched, right? [image loading]

I'm mostly referring to the whole Joseph Smith thing, I'm not religious in any way. But you do have a point.

As far as I'm concerned, outlandish fiction that has survived for thousands of years is simply worth more attention and respect than outlandish fiction from less than 200 years ago that reeks of an ill-conceived attempt at passing off polygamy. But perhaps that's just me.


What does age have to do with it?

I don't see how it's not just the same shit, in a different time period.

The only thing that matters is what is in the book, not how old the book is. If the book of mormon is more silly / evil / stupid / factually incorrect than a version of the normal bible, then it deserves less respect. But only because of its contents, not its age.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 19 2012 01:10 GMT
#37
Personal note: Jehovah's Witnesses are FAR more persistent. Mormon's will actually go away, and even leave you alone for a few months. If you open a door once for a JW, you're fucked. The only effective way to get a JW to stop coming every week is to argue with them (calmly) and then wait for the thousands of opportunities they give you to leave them speechless. But it's exhausting to get to that point.

Mormons? Throw pity upon these young men, not rage. They're threatened with their celestial status if they do not go. Tithing is all but compulsory and yet you still have to pay to even go on a mission! For men, you really can't not go on your mission and stay in the church and not expect severe social backlash, not to mention the shame from your own family. Mormons are absurdly nosy about everyone's life from the congregation. They take the whole "brother/sister" prefixes much too far. You can say freedom of choice and use your brain and whatnot, but let me tell you, when you're raised in a very precise, calculated way, and they use the emotions and judgments against you, they make it tough to even speak a foul word, let alone walk away or say no.

Can you tell I was raised mormon yet? lol

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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#38
On December 19 2012 10:10 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Personal note: Jehovah's Witnesses are FAR more persistent. Mormon's will actually go away, and even leave you alone for a few months. If you open a door once for a JW, you're fucked. The only effective way to get a JW to stop coming every week is to argue with them (calmly) and then wait for the thousands of opportunities they give you to leave them speechless. But it's exhausting to get to that point.

Mormons? Throw pity upon these young men, not rage. They're threatened with their celestial status if they do not go. Tithing is all but compulsory and yet you still have to pay to even go on a mission! For men, you really can't not go on your mission and stay in the church and not expect severe social backlash, not to mention the shame from your own family. Mormons are absurdly nosy about everyone's life from the congregation. They take the whole "brother/sister" prefixes much too far. You can say freedom of choice and use your brain and whatnot, but let me tell you, when you're raised in a very precise, calculated way, and they use the emotions and judgments against you, they make it tough to even speak a foul word, let alone walk away or say no.

Can you tell I was raised mormon yet? lol



You poor man. One of the only perks of being raised myself in post Mao China is the freedom and privilege knowing that my generation was raised with extremely minimalism religious influences as long as you are intelligent enough to see through the nationalist bull shit personality cult (which is pretty much everybody). If anything good came out of the cultural revolution it has to be the annihilation of religion (just because they were competition for Mao's personality cult, but nevertheless).
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 19 2012 01:17 GMT
#39
On December 19 2012 10:10 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Personal note: Jehovah's Witnesses are FAR more persistent. Mormon's will actually go away, and even leave you alone for a few months. If you open a door once for a JW, you're fucked. The only effective way to get a JW to stop coming every week is to argue with them (calmly) and then wait for the thousands of opportunities they give you to leave them speechless. But it's exhausting to get to that point.

Mormons? Throw pity upon these young men, not rage. They're threatened with their celestial status if they do not go. Tithing is all but compulsory and yet you still have to pay to even go on a mission! For men, you really can't not go on your mission and stay in the church and not expect severe social backlash, not to mention the shame from your own family. Mormons are absurdly nosy about everyone's life from the congregation. They take the whole "brother/sister" prefixes much too far. You can say freedom of choice and use your brain and whatnot, but let me tell you, when you're raised in a very precise, calculated way, and they use the emotions and judgments against you, they make it tough to even speak a foul word, let alone walk away or say no.

Can you tell I was raised mormon yet? lol


jack fucking mormon you mean. i see your handle is just a call for help from the oppressiveness of the doctrine and covenants.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#40
On December 19 2012 07:02 Frits wrote:
They actually sound like really nice and caring people, putting in a lot of effort just for you, maybe you should've responded to them like a decent human being instead of a complete jackass.


I sort of agree with this. What part of them was intimidating? Sounds like they showed up asked "What's up?" and you're like, get the hell outta here and slammed the door in their faces. This sounds like a complete overreaction to me on your part.
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