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StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 18:55:55
September 12 2012 18:53 GMT
#1
We are having a discussion about video games and the violence in them and how that can cause aggressive traits to be more active in an individual when around these kinds of aggressive stimulants (such as violent video games).

As far as I can tell, I am one of the smarter people in the room from the kinds of questions asked and what points other people make. I am not saying that they are wrong, I am just saying that their points are a bit one dimensional, which is sort of to be expected.

When I got the chance to discuss, here is what I said.

There are video games where violence is used for justice, or to do good. Games such as Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are good examples of this. The main protagonists of these stories commit violent acts (spells and killing stuff). However, in the light of greater good are these violent actions justified.

With that in mind, would it almost be a better idea to allow video games such as these to be given a wider age group that can access these games if they promote violence for defensive purposes or for the cause of the greater good?

I personally would like to see violence portrayed to the public in a morally right point of view. I think as a society, it would be more beneficial to put a bigger emphasis on violent video games based on a more defensive kind of aggression. This way, we do not completely get rid of violence in video games. We simply, as a society, encourage the more ethnic form of violence instead of getting rid of it all together.

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whatever i said, this does NOT include sc2. I don't give a fuck if I am blowing up a zerg players base with a nuke and kill 20 drones in the process. Does that make me a serial killer? probably. Does sc2 contribute to the image of violent video games? probably yes. + Show Spoiler +
BUT I FUCKING LOVE STARCRAFT SO IT IS THE ONE EXCEPTION AS THE PERFECT SERIES OF VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES <3


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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
September 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#2
It's a nice sentiment but we won't get rid of it altogether because there's no reason to.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#3
That would make violence extremly boring duh.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
September 12 2012 22:30 GMT
#4
Oh i guess I forgot that the target audience that I am aiming this discussion for probably does not have kids
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 00:59:53
September 13 2012 00:58 GMT
#5
Your sequence pretty much falls on philosophy 101, and wether or not the ends justify the means. If you're unsure, consider these often-used examples:

There's a train track which splits into two. On one track stands one person. On the second track stands ten. You decide where the train goes with a lever. You cannot stop the train or avoid deaths.

The questions go,
Which track would you prefer the train to take?
If you chose the death of the one over the death of the ten - what if the person you condemn to death, is your friend? Your brother? Your lover? Is the death of that person still worth the ten others?
What if, instead of using a lever, you had to physically push a person into the train track to stop the train from killing the ten? What if this person was your sibling or your lover? Would it still be worth it?

And what if there were less people on the second track? Five, maybe? Or two? Would you rather save your friend than those two? What if there were more? Fifty? A hundred? Would killing your friend be worth their lives?

If you want to discuss pro moral use of violence, consider first how absolute its supposed positives would be, and if it would be relevant at all.

Personally, I find no moral justification in violence, neither physical or mental. It might be situationally neccessary, but not morallly justified.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 13 2012 01:06 GMT
#6
On September 13 2012 07:30 StateofReverie wrote:
Oh i guess I forgot that the target audience that I am aiming this discussion for probably does not have kids

Have you ever realized why a game like GTA is so fun ?
Because it is completly amoral.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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