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Azera
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On August 31 2012 19:06 Azera wrote: Im a huge fan of the Beatles! I love Revolver. For No One is pretty deliciously haunting and Eleanor Rigby is great as well. Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt.Pepper and Abbey Road are awesome too Great shout out for "For No One." That is a great tune that I forget about a lot since I don't really listen to Revolver as much as I should. My wife is a "Revolver" girl where I am more of a "Rubber Soul" guy. =) | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
 What I find fascinating with the beatles is the evolution in their music from their beginning to their end. It's just incredible to see a band, that had after all a quite short span of activity, having such an transformation in their music. Like, between their early songs like "I Wanna Hold your Hand" or other cheesy/sugary stuff, and their later albums, there a world of evolution, in their working process, in their mindset, in composition and in production, that is quite unparrallelled imo. And what's even more genius, is that they managed this without losing their identity, you can still recognize their signature melodies/sounds but as you go through the albums and the years, it becomes more and more detailed, richer, more "masterful" (dunno really how to say it in english :<) | ||
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On August 31 2012 19:09 TheAmazombie wrote: Great shout out for "For No One." That is a great tune that I forget about a lot since I don't really listen to Revolver as much as I should. My wife is a "Revolver" girl where I am more of a "Rubber Soul" guy. =) It's not like Revolver and Rubber Soul aren't the 2 best Beatles discs, heh. But honestly, Revolver is better. :p | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On August 31 2012 20:28 Hoon wrote: It's not like Revolver and Rubber Soul aren't the 2 best Beatles discs, heh. But honestly, Revolver is better. :p I see moments of brilliance in Revolver, but as a whole structure, I think that it lacks. Now, the thing with Rubber Soul is that there are two very different releases as well, the American release and the regular, British release. They were afraid that America would miss out on less of the "poppy" sound, so they changed the track listing significantly removing tracks like "Nowhere Man" and "Drive My Car," but adding tracks like "I've Just Seen a Face," (One of my favorite Paul songs...) and "Its Only Love," plus they mix the tracks up a bit and it leads to a totally different listening experience. You must listen to the original British release though, it is just plain better. Also though, as a vinyl record, I think that Abbey Road tops them all, the way the record cuts out after "I Want You's" heavy, dragging end, then just stops at the end of side 1, then you flip it over to "Here Comes the Sun" and an entirely new mood. They did such a great job of using the medium as part of the album. | ||
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Azera
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For No One to me goes quite well with Somebody of Abbey Road in terms of the theme the songs are about. If you listen to 1) Somebody 2) For No One In that order it tells of a pretty depressing love story. Any more songs that I missed out that has that same feel as those two songs that I missed out? I'm thinking Michelle. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On August 31 2012 21:51 Azera wrote: Revolver is the album where you kinda see the Beatles maturing as a band/human beings with songs like Eleanor Rigby and Taxman. For No One to me goes quite well with Somebody of Abbey Road in terms of the theme the songs are about. If you listen to 1) Somebody 2) For No One In that order it tells of a pretty depressing love story. Any more songs that I missed out that has that same feel as those two songs that I missed out? I'm thinking Michelle. As well as their self awareness with Paperback Writer, love that song. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 ). As I tend to do when I really like something, I became a hardcore Beatles nerd and learned everyhing there is to know about them (I kid you not; there wasn't a single fact I didn't know about the group or the members at that point in time). I would, hands down, say they're the best and most influential band of all time, and Lennon is one of the greatest men in the history of mankind.  This is my album ranking (I have put a grade on each and every one of their individual songs, so the list is a simple matter of average score): Revolver Stg Pepper White Album Rubber Soul Help A Hard Days Night Abbey Road Let It Be Beatles For Sale Please Please Me Yellow Submarine With The Beatles Their best song is no doubt this one though: | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On September 01 2012 07:17 Holgerius wrote: I'm such a huge fan of The Beatles. :D I used to like them when I was really young, but after then I had a phase between like 10-15 where I only listened to badass music like Guns N' Roses and similar (I wanted angry and rebeillious music (not that Lennon wasn't a rebel)). I rediscovered them after that though due to the fact that we were doing a huge show with Beatles songs in school (I went to a music gymnasium, which I guess is the equivalent to upper secondary school or something ). As I tend to do when I really like something, I became a hardcore Beatles nerd and learned everyhing there is to know about them (I kid you not; there wasn't a single fact I didn't know about the group or the members at that point in time). I would, hands down, say they're the best and most influential band of all time, and Lennon is one of the greatest men in the history of mankind. This is my album ranking (I have put a grade on each and every one of their individual songs, so the list is a simple matter of average score): Revolver Stg Pepper White Album Rubber Soul Help A Hard Days Night Abbey Road Let It Be Beatles For Sale Please Please Me Yellow Submarine With The Beatles Their best song is no doubt this one though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKCfJhW_x8 How does Magical Mystery Tour rank? | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
Generally poorly by many people, if you take the movie into account. LoL. I always laugh when watching The Beatles Anthology because you have these interviews where they are talking about the bomb that was MMT. Ringo and George are like "Yeah, that was Paul's idea mostly..." and then you get to Paul who says "Well, I think it was John and me, but really it was John's idea." or something along those lines. Paul being Paul. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
But I guess everything is relative; even Beatles worst stuff is way better than most other crap out there. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On September 01 2012 09:45 Holgerius wrote: I actually consider it an awesome record (between Abbey Road and Let It Be). But I guess everything is relative; even Beatles worst stuff is way better than most other crap out there. Yeah, it is good as a collection of songs, but I was more referencing the movie and entire package as a whole, and also based on the general consensus. While I like MMT, I rarely listen to it anymore. I would rather normally listen to just one of the Greatest Hits collections and you get the best parts of MMT there. | ||
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Azera
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On September 01 2012 11:16 Azera wrote: Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha! | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On September 01 2012 11:21 TheAmazombie wrote: Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha! Yeah I recently got a new set of cans as well (Sennheisers HD598). I love the Beatles. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On September 01 2012 12:06 Azera wrote: Yeah I recently got a new set of cans as well (Sennheisers HD598). I love the Beatles. Oh snap. Put on some analog recordings (Not MP3) and jam out to some early stereo recordings, or even the original mono versions. That reminds me, I need a new pair myself... | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:09 TheAmazombie wrote: Oh snap. Put on some analog recordings (Not MP3) and jam out to some early stereo recordings, or even the original mono versions. That reminds me, I need a new pair myself... mmmmm ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MY5i5.png) | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 31 2012 19:02 TheAmazombie wrote: While I love Queen and think that Freddy was bay far one of the greatest modern male singers (along with Roy Orbison,) they had some influence and a ton of talent, but nothing to the level of the changes and influences of the Beatles I think. I think that a lot of people don't realize that is was not just their music, it was the right time and place and they were so far ahead of their time in riff creation, in rock music structure as well as style, and in marketing and packaging their brand. It is weird, but just little things that no one had done before, like use guitar feedback as a musical device as on "I Feel Fine." They are credited with creating that by accident, liking the sound, and now feedback is a standard device used in a ton of modern rock. Sorry, I am just a huge Beatles geek. I understand that many people don't care for them as I do, but I have turned so many non-Beatles fans into Beatles fans that I get geeked out talking about them. Ha. I too have to be part of the "Beatles are kinda overrated" group but I agree with most of what you say. At that particular time, they were beyond "remarkable" or "excellent", they truly were ahead of their time. And even though I'm not a fan of pop/pop-rock (and you have to agree it's fair to label quite a significant part of their music as that), they're probably one of the best if not the best band in this genre. I think it's just that we've seen music progress so much that nowadays it's hard to appreciate them as much since we're not used to a period in music before them, which is why I would call them a great band but not a mind-blowing band. (and you can argue that rock music did progress a lot thanks to them and I would agree with that for the most part) Just as a clarification, I think nobody here is trying to shit on the Beatles when they say they're overrated. On August 31 2012 19:30 thrawn2112 wrote: there's a beatles song for every mood you could be in Do they have songs that get your blood pumping and put you in a "I'm ready to slaughter endless armies" mood? | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I too have to be part of the "Beatles are kinda overrated" group but I agree with most of what you say. At that particular time, they were beyond "remarkable" or "excellent", they truly were ahead of their time. And even though I'm not a fan of pop/pop-rock (and you have to agree it's fair to label quite a significant part of their music as that), they're probably one of the best if not the best band in this genre. I think it's just that we've seen music progress so much that nowadays it's hard to appreciate them as much since we're not used to a period in music before them, which is why I would call them a great band but not a mind-blowing band. (and you can argue that rock music did progress a lot thanks to them and I would agree with that for the most part) Just as a clarification, I think nobody here is trying to shit on the Beatles when they say they're overrated. Do they have songs that get your blood pumping and put you in a "I'm ready to slaughter endless armies" mood? I am not sure about that, but I would say some of their songs like "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" and "Happiness is a Warm Gun" might fit the bill best. Then there are some that get crazy like "Helter Skelter" which Charles Manson was quite fond of... | ||
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