EPTGirls may sling mud at each other because..... they're jealous of each other? IDK.
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
Girls may sling mud at each other because..... they're jealous of each other? IDK. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
The attention is what we CRAVE lady, being famous for playing a video game is the dream, for many of us. I think anyone who judges people for being 'attention-seekers' has larger problems, and in many cases is guilty of 'attention-seeking' in the very act of vocally judging someone else an 'attention-seeker'. Just shake them haters off. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On August 07 2012 17:56 Pandemona wrote: Difference is for me that why do most of these "attention wh.." think it's good idea to stream their games with a webcam etcetcetc. Thats the problem i have, i have met many a girl who plays games on my time playing , but i can honestly say to my knowledge 0 of them have ever streamed it, so to me every girl who is streaming is a attention wh... And your correlation between men and women attention wh... i don't get? I can't think of any male streamer that matches the same meaning as a female attention wh... your addressing here? Maybe you could point me in the direction of one though? However i know people are free to exploit anythng they like, and if they get hired by a gaming company to model something so be it, good for them. They pull 1000 viewers by having a webcam on their stream "gaming" so be it, good for them, i have no problem, i just prefer not to watch. The only problem i have is when it is thrown in your face and your force fed it, ie when someone is asking stupid questions at a LAN event on a stream to 20,000 plus nerds. Also i know most are quite genuine like yourself, you have been commentating the EU daily cups since it started? You have become a decent caster as well, this i have no problem with. Soe is probably the best female caster/host around in the scene at the moment and that is what people should be aspiring to be if your female and want to get into the scene. Just my view! XD Why wouldn't it be a good idea? Regardless the reason. A lot of guys do that too.. you want to have contact with your viewers, they want to see you play be a real person instead of not having a webcam. Does she look provokative in any sense ? Again, her choice. No one forces another to watch it and yes she might be flirty or loving attention but truth is a lot of us do. We all want to get recognition and be liked. Even if its flirtatious. Why do people judge so quickly ? A stream is usually there for several reasons one of them is being entertaining.. if theres a chick who loves to flaunt it so what? enjoy it or just dont. It's just too easy to call out a girl for that behavior because she is a girl. By god what if she is ONLY doing it for the attention and not being genuine about the game? ( utter bullcrap ) Even people like them love the game but are flirty or are entertaining in a different way. People should stop hating and being judgemental. Narrowmindedness has to stop. Don;t watch and support an individual if you don;t find it appealing but labeling it as if you were to get people to hate one is very low. Once more a lot of guys do the same but in different ways of showcasing themselves.. a guy cant really flirt because it just doesnt work as it does with a woman.. Im not saying people who use a cam do it to flirt or anything but its the entertainment value. People indeed do exploit but guess what.. EVERYONE does in a way.. when you start a business you "exploit " the opportunity to sell stuff to people willing to buy from you for more. Just dont forget girls are just not the same type of gamers guys are but we still do share the very same passion. And you having a problem with someone not knowing about the game.. that is just inexperience. No one knows what theyr doing when they start off with something they want to do. Take Tasteless and Artosis. I know some find them not as appealing but in all honesty they are so familiar with the camera and the show of being a host that their whole presence is 1 big entertainment to watch. And for your info Soe said the most ridiculous stuff when she just started she got a lot of help.. see she is genuine too.. but a girl nonetheless.. I stopped casting because this community really hated so much i am just not as strong as Kellymilkies. I just wish people would stop being so resentful. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On August 07 2012 17:25 Ghin wrote: It sucks, but people say and do a lot of dumb things. I happen to enjoy female company and what other people call "attention whoring." There are also people who enjoy cannibalism. I do too, i can say even i have been accused of such terms when i wasnt even openly doing anything and it was by some TL mod. People are full of bigotry and resentment and view others with a certain preprogrammed state of mind. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 08 2012 01:31 ampson wrote: Guys just call girls attention-seekers because they are jealous that women have an easier path to success in SC2 than them. When there's a male player and a female player of equal talent, the female player will have infinitely higher popularity. But, C'est la vie. Nothing can be done about it and there's no need to get salty about it. It's simply the way a heavily male-dominated scene works. Girls may sling mud at each other because..... they're jealous of each other? IDK. I wouldn't call it success when it's acquiring a modest amount of viewers largely based on one's lack of a chromosome Y. It's like being proud of your nationality when you haven't done anything to deserve it. Just accomplish real things. | ||
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0x64
Finland4608 Posts
It really sucks their website got hacked and show the mentality of some people. "You called me childish, I kill you to show you" It's not ok. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:25 Djzapz wrote: I wouldn't call it success when it's acquiring a modest amount of viewers largely based on one's lack of a chromosome Y. It's like being proud of your nationality when you haven't done anything to deserve it. Just accomplish real things. This applies pretty much to everything. Do you think american progamers, who for the most part are far worse than europeans, deserve all the attention they get? And do you think non korean progamers deserve their salaries when there's at least 200 korean unknown players better than all of them? I don't know what makes you think there's a solid way to establish a comparison and judge who deserves what in the first place. People just like to see new interesting stuff and also identify with personalities. The fame of some people just comes out naturally, even if sometimes it seems it's unfair and it makes no sense, because if you understand all the reasons it obviously does. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:25 Djzapz wrote: I wouldn't call it success when it's acquiring a modest amount of viewers largely based on one's lack of a chromosome Y. It's like being proud of your nationality when you haven't done anything to deserve it. Just accomplish real things. What if you accomplish succes with both?.. There are so many examples of people who have accomplished that position whether it's because they knew people and got their fanbase trhough that, or they are extremely rude and people find it funny or use their appearance the lack of female gamers and show their way of gaming. A lot of people who acquired a certain role wasn;t because that they were succesful at start to begin with. Success doesn't come overnight and entertainment knows a lot of ways. I love watching female gamers with game even though I am not even male. Just don't be judgemental. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:38 aTnClouD wrote: This applies pretty much to everything. Do you think american progamers, who for the most part are far worse than europeans, deserve all the attention they get? And do you think non korean progamers deserve their salaries when there's at least 200 korean unknown players better than all of them? I don't know what makes you think there's a solid way to establish a comparison and judge who deserves what in the first place. People just like to see new interesting stuff and also identify with personalities. The fame of some people just comes out naturally, even if sometimes it seems it's unfair and it makes no sense, because if you understand all the reasons it obviously does. I'm not saying otherwise! However, "ladies" who use their femininity to attract viewers should really look into what they're doing and think about it, because they don't deserve it a lot of the time. Right now I could start another "master level protoss streaming boring games" channel and I'd get significantly less viewers than "silver level FEMALE ZERG streaming absurdly boring games". And yes there are a bunch of American players that just aren't very good by are very famous because they happened to be born in the US. They too should think about whether they want to be a freaking mascot or whether they want to be appreciated for their actual accomplishments. So like I said, accomplish things, because taking the free viewers and running with it, or taking a huge EG salary without showing anything for it, you're insulting yourself. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:48 Djzapz wrote: I'm not saying otherwise! However, "ladies" who use their femininity to attract viewers should really look into what they're doing and think about it, because they don't deserve it a lot of the time. Right now I could start another "master level protoss streaming boring games" channel and I'd get significantly less viewers than "silver level FEMALE ZERG streaming absurdly boring games". And yes there are a bunch of American players that just aren't very good by are very famous because they happened to be born in the US. They too should think about whether they want to be a freaking mascot or whether they want to be appreciated for their actual accomplishments. So like I said, accomplish things, because taking the free viewers and running with it, or taking a huge EG salary without showing anything for it, you're insulting yourself. Can you Name a female gamer,host or w/e who you like? | ||
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BadAim
Norway879 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:52 VampireLady wrote: Can you Name a female gamer,host or w/e who you like? Off the top of my head, I like Anna Prosser, Rachel Quirico, and Smix is awesome. Am I getting judged now? | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 08 2012 02:56 VampireLady wrote: Ohw you think Anna Prosser accomplished by being good..? You are exactly the hypocrit ive been talking about.. those females to start off with used their feminitiy and friends to get there where they are.. so the moral of this story is have boobs get succesful with it. How am I a hypocrite? I never said there was something wrong in starting with a head start. Anna Prosser proved herself, she's not a random bimbo flaunting her swag, she actually does good work in the community and works in tournament providing great interaction with the crowd and the players. If you're so tired of being judged by people who don't know anything, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge me like that. You're a hypocrite. Also by suggesting that Anna Prosser only used her femininity to get where she is in SC2, you're playing down your own argument. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
You think another cant do what she is doing if they ever got the chance ? Again im not trying to minimize her capabilities im sure shes a nice woman and with a lot of qualities but again she got the chance because she is a woman and in this case girlfriend of a progamer and thus got into the position she is today she had major help and that swag certainly helped.. same story for people who showcase themselves on cam or w/e. Moral of the story: Stop judging the bimbo's you call could probably do way better than anyone, you do not know even if they cannot they still deserve to use whatever means necessary to get their its their choice and good luck to them. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Also at the risk of sounding bad, reading your stuff is really hard because it's really messy. | ||
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omnic
United States188 Posts
On August 08 2012 03:04 VampireLady wrote: Djzapz she got there by learning the job by getting introduced by her boyfriend she was had help.. and girls who " flaunt their swag " don't have a progamer bf who gets them in touch and places to even get a chance to be succesful.. .. This is exactly the hypocrisy of people.. You think another cant do what she is doing if they ever got the chance ? Again im not trying to minimize her capabilities im sure shes a nice woman and with a lot of qualities but again she got the chance because she is a woman and in this case girlfriend of a progamer and thus got into the position she is today she had major help and that swag certainly helped.. same story for people who showcase themselves on cam or w/e. Moral of the story: Stop judging the bimbo's you call could probably do way better than anyone, you do not know even if they cannot they still deserve to use whatever means necessary to get their its their choice and good luck to them. I hate to burst your bubble vampirelady but while its an ugly truth its still usually the case that its less what you know and more about who you know. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
Just accomplish real things. " Condescending and disaproving statement here.. why do you say this if you think there's nothing wrong with it ? | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 08 2012 03:10 VampireLady wrote: wouldn't call it success when it's acquiring a modest amount of viewers largely based on one's lack of a chromosome Y. It's like being proud of your nationality when you haven't done anything to deserve it. Just accomplish real things. " Condescending and disaproving statement here.. why do you say this if you think there's nothing wrong with it ? There's nothing wrong with it if you make something out of it. Anna accomplished something. I use the same standards to judge men. If an actor got into Hollywood because daddy happened to be a famous movie director, he better not be a terrible actor - and people definitely shouldn't praise him because he got a free ride to Hollywood. If that's condescending then I'm sorry. Like I said, accomplish shit. | ||
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omnic
United States188 Posts
On August 08 2012 03:10 VampireLady wrote: wouldn't call it success when it's acquiring a modest amount of viewers largely based on one's lack of a chromosome Y. It's like being proud of your nationality when you haven't done anything to deserve it. Just accomplish real things. " Condescending and disaproving statement here.. why do you say this if you think there's nothing wrong with it ? her success has less to do with how she got started and more to due with how talented she eventually became | ||
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