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OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 25 2012 07:13 GMT
#61
There are alot of papers on attitudes towards accents, none native or otherwise that would be suitable for the purposes. Especially English English accents. Good luck though, wish I could help however I really can't as I'm not american.

Would love to have a read of it though...sounds super interesting
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
July 25 2012 09:04 GMT
#62
On July 25 2012 16:13 OptimusYale wrote:
There are alot of papers on attitudes towards accents, none native or otherwise that would be suitable for the purposes. Especially English English accents. Good luck though, wish I could help however I really can't as I'm not american.

Would love to have a read of it though...sounds super interesting


Oh I know. That's why my study is more about foreign English accents in a native American English environment and what people expect of them. Thank you so much guys, once again! I have until the end of July to have consolidate results!
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Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
July 25 2012 10:22 GMT
#63
I like you susie~~ <3333333333333 I hope all goes well for you.
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OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 11:46:21
July 25 2012 11:29 GMT
#64


Best English accent....God bless you noddy....long live the black countray accent


or this one




If possible, could I get a copy? I did linguistics as a my graduate degree...and loved socio-linguistics more than anything (due to me having the accent above). Foreign accents are amazing, and personally I had 3 or 4 foreign lecturers who were incredible. 2 Germans and a Japanese guy.....their accents just make it more interesting
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
July 25 2012 12:36 GMT
#65
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
July 25 2012 12:41 GMT
#66
Also, many of you commented that they are reading the same thing - I had to do that to control what was being said. If the topic is more / less interesting each time with a different accent, your opinion might change and it's just another variable that I would need to account for. Hmm maybe I should have each audio come up randomly....
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 25 2012 15:19 GMT
#67
On July 25 2012 15:26 lilsusie wrote:
Yeah that's how we've always classified it, it was my way of making it "american" lol.

Also, for the gender question, I put it that way because I wanted to see if men/women gave different answers. I know it sucks, I should have put a 3rd option, but it was for the sake of making easy graphs, etc. Just choose one that you most relate to.

In central Ohio, we always referred to the 5th year of undergraduate as the "victory lap". I was totally unfamiliar with the term "super senior" lol.
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 25 2012 15:58 GMT
#68
I was wondering, what do you call a dissertation in USA ? Because in france, a dissertation is a 2 or 4hours exam, which you answer a single question (most of the time philosophy or litterature) in ten f*cking pages.
God I'm glad I'm not doing this anymore ^^
I like starcraft
Smancer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States379 Posts
July 25 2012 18:04 GMT
#69
On July 26 2012 00:58 oGoZenob wrote:
I was wondering, what do you call a dissertation in USA ? Because in france, a dissertation is a 2 or 4hours exam, which you answer a single question (most of the time philosophy or litterature) in ten f*cking pages.
God I'm glad I'm not doing this anymore ^^



In most schools, for a PhD, it is paper that you publish. The guidelines are generally that it must contribute to your field of study. For a Master program as in the case with the OP this is obviously way less strict.

In my school you go through a defence. Where you present to a group of professors. These professors will question and ultimately judge whether what you have done warrants a PhD.

For Mathematics, in my school, to put it simply, making a contribution to the field is generally proving something that has never been shown before.

People will spend years working on a proof or a paper. In some cases the final paper or proof may be the length of a regular book, 100- 200 pages. Depending on complexity.

I wish I could have just done a little survey, and wrote about the results for my degree. :-(
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 25 2012 20:01 GMT
#70
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!


i love linguistics research so i would enjoy seeing the paper for sure
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 26 2012 05:43 GMT
#71
On July 26 2012 05:01 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!


i love linguistics research so i would enjoy seeing the paper for sure

It is interesting material. I just finished reading a ton of chomsky, although I'm not sure I'd be able to understand that dissertation. Plus from what I can tell chomsky is quite controversial, even in that field.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 26 2012 06:23 GMT
#72
On July 26 2012 05:01 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!


i love linguistics research so i would enjoy seeing the paper for sure

I second this.
ils
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 26 2012 09:24 GMT
#73
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!

Won't mind at all, do share when you're done please :D
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Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 11:01:20
July 26 2012 10:58 GMT
#74
On July 26 2012 03:04 Smancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 00:58 oGoZenob wrote:
I was wondering, what do you call a dissertation in USA ? Because in france, a dissertation is a 2 or 4hours exam, which you answer a single question (most of the time philosophy or litterature) in ten f*cking pages.
God I'm glad I'm not doing this anymore ^^



In most schools, for a PhD, it is paper that you publish. The guidelines are generally that it must contribute to your field of study. For a Master program as in the case with the OP this is obviously way less strict.

In my school you go through a defence. Where you present to a group of professors. These professors will question and ultimately judge whether what you have done warrants a PhD.

For Mathematics, in my school, to put it simply, making a contribution to the field is generally proving something that has never been shown before.

People will spend years working on a proof or a paper. In some cases the final paper or proof may be the length of a regular book, 100- 200 pages. Depending on complexity.

I wish I could have just done a little survey, and wrote about the results for my degree. :-(


I proved something that had never been shown before in my bachelor's thesis.

Just make a bunch of assumptions, apply some game theory and voilà!

Economics is awesome.

Math sounds rough though

EDIT:

On topic I've actually had lecturers that literally was not comprehensible, that kinda sucks ^^
no
(The Doctor)
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 14:23:51
July 26 2012 14:23 GMT
#75
On July 25 2012 21:41 lilsusie wrote:
Also, many of you commented that they are reading the same thing - I had to do that to control what was being said. If the topic is more / less interesting each time with a different accent, your opinion might change and it's just another variable that I would need to account for. Hmm maybe I should have each audio come up randomly....


Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining why you used the same text, That makes sense. I was going to ask about this. I don't know much about running experiments, but my thought was that, by having them read the exact same thing, it might make it easier for people to understand what subsequent speakers are saying because the listener knows the content of the text and can adjust what the speaker is saying to fit it? It's almost like giving subtitles, I suppose...but I may be off the mark here.

EDIT: fixed grammatical error.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 26 2012 22:29 GMT
#76
On July 25 2012 01:22 quirinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 01:19 lilsusie wrote:
I'm not too picky, honestly, I know what limitations this study will have. It doesn't have to be very scientific either. Just... do the survey please :D Thank you guys!! I guess Canada is techincally America... North America...


Hmm I don't know if including Canada is a good idea, they have two languages after all, so they are probably more tolerant towards different accents.

Good luck with your dissertation! :D


Not in any of the non-quebec provinces. Here in NS we have a nice solid hate for our french-accented profs. At least at my school a lot of the kids in my year hated the profs with french accents.
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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
July 27 2012 01:54 GMT
#77
I have had several professors that have had rather thick accents, but after a week or two I would understand relatively everything they said, and had no problem with the accent. I feel as though my opinion might not be fairly common as both of my parents have very strong accents when they speak english, so I am rather good at interpreting broken english. My only difficulty with understanding a prof with an accent is when have horrendous grammar, which I guess isn't the fault of their accent, but it makes them even more difficult to interpret.
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OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 27 2012 06:23 GMT
#78
On July 26 2012 14:43 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 05:01 Divinek wrote:
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!


i love linguistics research so i would enjoy seeing the paper for sure

It is interesting material. I just finished reading a ton of chomsky, although I'm not sure I'd be able to understand that dissertation. Plus from what I can tell chomsky is quite controversial, even in that field.



Chomsky is a chump...Halliday is where it is at! Choskian research has died a death as of late, with more and more evidence pointing to the fact that there are no universal grammar structures which destroys his theory altogether.

The Piraha tribe in South America have a language where the is no number, and stories go back at most 2 generations, and even then they only speak in the present tense (or something) so stories are lsot. They have no written history, they have no spoken history...they live in the present as thats all they can speak about...pretty sweet read up if you can find it :D
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 28 2012 19:03 GMT
#79
Alright. I am a 4th, 5th, or 6th generation Caucasian American. I am also mildly "fluent" (I use this word sparingly) in Mandarin Chinese. I speak it well enough to Study in a Chinese university if I wanted to. Basically, I passed the TOEFL for Chinese.

Last semester I was studying abroad in Taiwan and me and three other foreign classmates gave a presentation in Chinese for a Taiwanese Culture and Folklore class. However, I was the only non-Chinese student. My three classmates that assisted with the lecture were American-born Chinese.

When I delivered my section of the report to the class, in Chinese, I was so embarassed. All of the girls in the class were giggling because of my accent and or pronunciation. That was the most painful five minutes of my life, it felt like.

Frankly, I feel insulted whenever a monolingual American talks about a lecturer or professor's accent without first being proficient in another language themselves. It is unfair to me, and unfair to the professors who are qualified and obtained the credentials that it takes to be a professor or lecturer.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 19:51:45
July 28 2012 19:11 GMT
#80
On July 26 2012 15:23 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 05:01 Divinek wrote:
On July 25 2012 21:36 lilsusie wrote:
Once I'm done with the dissertation, if you guys want a copy, let me know. LOL. Dunno if you wanna read 15000 words of my rambling about accents though!


i love linguistics research so i would enjoy seeing the paper for sure

I second this.

I third it.

Lilsusie, do you study psycholinguistics? Sociolinguistics? Sinolinguistics?

EDIT: This strikes me as interesting because I am a little torn between studying for Chinese Linguistics for my master's degree and studying Translation for my master's. Either way, I'm going for my master's in Hong Kong, or I'm gonna try at least.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
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