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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 07:27:13
June 09 2012 07:25 GMT
#41
I could see Bly as a part of a top-10. He is winning cups left and right this year, just took another 5 gold medals in may; defeated "top-5-player"-HuK in Spring Arena and three-killed Prime. I would see him in front of many zergs in this List, maybe even in front of all except Stephano.

Other than that I could see Tefel on that list, Beasty, Hasu and Illusion a bit higher and Happy, Sheth, HuK and (as much as it hurts me to say) Dimaga a bit lower. But otherwise great work as always.

Edit: Sry for grammar, but I just watched MLG the whole night and I am really tired right now.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 09 2012 14:03 GMT
#42
On June 09 2012 16:25 Xoronius wrote:
I could see Bly as a part of a top-10. He is winning cups left and right this year, just took another 5 gold medals in may; defeated "top-5-player"-HuK in Spring Arena and three-killed Prime. I would see him in front of many zergs in this List, maybe even in front of all except Stephano.

Other than that I could see Tefel on that list, Beasty, Hasu and Illusion a bit higher and Happy, Sheth, HuK and (as much as it hurts me to say) Dimaga a bit lower. But otherwise great work as always.

Edit: Sry for grammar, but I just watched MLG the whole night and I am really tired right now.


Bly is a very abusive player and winning online cups isnt too much an achievement. any top 30 player would constantly win online cups if they would participate more often.

Yes, he beat HuK lately and had a good run just as tefel, but thats pretty much all he did on an international scale (despite his great performance in IPLTAC3 vs prime). the problem is: who would you leave out for him? i cant make it a top35 just because some players might be as good as rank 25-30. i have to stick with 30. if i dont, we have 50 players in the ranking in 3 months^^
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
June 09 2012 14:43 GMT
#43
What has Lucifron done to deserve such a high spot?
I think esports is pretty nice.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 10 2012 03:41 GMT
#44
On June 09 2012 23:03 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 16:25 Xoronius wrote:
I could see Bly as a part of a top-10. He is winning cups left and right this year, just took another 5 gold medals in may; defeated "top-5-player"-HuK in Spring Arena and three-killed Prime. I would see him in front of many zergs in this List, maybe even in front of all except Stephano.

Other than that I could see Tefel on that list, Beasty, Hasu and Illusion a bit higher and Happy, Sheth, HuK and (as much as it hurts me to say) Dimaga a bit lower. But otherwise great work as always.

Edit: Sry for grammar, but I just watched MLG the whole night and I am really tired right now.


Bly is a very abusive player and winning online cups isnt too much an achievement. any top 30 player would constantly win online cups if they would participate more often.

Yes, he beat HuK lately and had a good run just as tefel, but thats pretty much all he did on an international scale (despite his great performance in IPLTAC3 vs prime). the problem is: who would you leave out for him? i cant make it a top35 just because some players might be as good as rank 25-30. i have to stick with 30. if i dont, we have 50 players in the ranking in 3 months^^


Yeah, sure, but like I said, I could replace pretty much anyone of that list with Bly. I mean, what did for example Sheth, SeleCT or Slivko do, what would jusitfy ranking them above him?

And winning online cups means smth.. If someone has a "breakout performance" in a major tournament, you can almost everytime look at the results of online-cups 1-2 months before and you will find the name there.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
June 12 2012 00:05 GMT
#45
Huk, Ret, Mana, Morrow, Lucifron too high.

Socke, Grubby, Illusion too low.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 13:00:27
June 12 2012 12:47 GMT
#46
Sase should get a bit higher after MLG, passing Huk and maybe Thorzain.
Nerchio is back in form (TLPD #2) and should pass Ret+Kas.
Why did Feast get a +3? I would have put him further down since he is concentrating on school ATM and not playing much (and no especially good results).

Bly should finally make the Top30 after his 3-kill vs Prime in IPLTAC.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 13:31:34
June 12 2012 13:28 GMT
#47
i will give my (subjectiv) opinion on the current ranking.

Idra should not be part of the list. his biggest achievement in 2012 was 4th in the USA Nationals. Nothing against him but he does not deserve a spot here atm.

Slightly lower:
Nerchio, Dimaga, Titan, Select

A lot lower: Mana, Sheth, Happy, ToD, Beasty

A Lot higher: Socke, Grubby, HasuObs

Slightly higher: Illusion, SaSe

Consider to take in: Darkforce, Elfi
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 04:25:24
June 22 2012 04:13 GMT
#48
Fraer should be in there and I also think Mana and maybe even Dimaga is abit to low considering how well all these 3 played at Dreamhack. Select and Idra also way to high Illusion should be higher. Vibe should be mention he just won the American WCG. But beside these small nitpickings the list looks pretty solid.

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