• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:43
CEST 17:43
KST 00:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)8[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th156Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
High level ptr replays? where can I find them? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9547 users

Beer Blog 3: Stout

Blogs > Cragus
Post a Reply
Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
May 19 2012 03:04 GMT
#1
Stouts are my favourite family of beer styles, and are the variety that got me into good beer (Young’s Double Chocolate Stout being the specific beer). When your average person thinks of stout, they usually think of something along the lines of Guinness; however, that’s not particularly representative. Stouts vary a lot in bitterness from sweet stouts like Youngs to some truly brutal Russian Imperial Stouts. What stouts generally share is an intense maltiness with generally lighter influence from aroma hops. There is no way I could cover all the varieties of stout in one post, so I am just going to pick two of my favourite styles.

[image loading]
This is Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout and is, unsurprisingly, an oatmeal stout. Oatmeal stouts use oatmeal as an adjunct (as you can see, beer is an esoteric field that takes advanced technical knowledge to understand). The oatmeal adds significant amounts of protein to the beer that result in it taking on an incredibly smooth mouthfeel that is pretty unique to the style. In general, oatmeal stouts tend to be sort of like super-Guinnesses—they are more flavourful and fuller of body than your average Guinness, but usually have a similar flavour profile (Guinness is actually a pretty thin stout on flavour and body). The Sam Smith example pictured is a really good oatmeal stout and one of my favourite beers to grab when I feel like a pint (the St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout whose glass I used in my last blog is another favourite).

[image loading]
This is Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout, a member of the classification of stouts called Russian imperial stouts (or just imperial stouts) due to Catherine II’s preference for the style. RISs are basically the granddaddy of stouts; they boast very high alcohol contents (Brooklyn BCS is 10%), thick mouthfeel, little carbonation, and are just bursting with dark roasted malt flavours (read: probably not a good idea to try a RIS until you are used to lighter stouts). My personal favourite beer is a RIS produced by the Oskar Blues Brewing Company called Ten Fidy, but I haven’t had the chance to try any of the really rare RISs like Dark Lord and similar. Anyway, despite the name, Brooklyn BCS doesn’t actually contain any chocolate; instead, it gets its dark chocolate flavour entirely from careful brewing with well selected malts. To sum up my favourite type of beer, imagine a bitter molasses with 10+% alcohol and you’d come very close to a RIS.

PS: Most RISs will not produce much head. High ABV beers in general have trouble with head formation and retention, which isn’t really helped by the lowish amount of carbonation found in a typical RIS.
PPS: The first time you have a very high ABV beer like a RIS, Belgian quad/tripel, etc. you will probably experience an unusual rapid buzz. My theory is that this is a side effect of the increased rate of alcohol absorption with carbonated beverages, but I don’t actually know.
PPPS: Drinking a RIS makes spelling a chore.


***
aka Nakji/Сталкер/Reed
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 03:13:52
May 19 2012 03:11 GMT
#2
have you tried sam adams cream stout? its the only stout ive ever had and it was mediocre imo. im interested in oatmeal stouts as ive been hearing a lot about them lately. im going to go down to the liqour store in a few minutes and see what i can find.

edit; also props on the samuel smith, ive had the organic lager and ale and they are very good quality.
dude bro.
Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 03:25:40
May 19 2012 03:18 GMT
#3
On May 19 2012 12:11 heliusx wrote:
have you tried sam adams cream stout? its the only stout ive ever had and it was mediocre imo. im interested in oatmeal stouts as ive been hearing a lot about them lately. im going to go down to the liqour store in a few minutes and see what i can find.

I haven't had Sam Adams Cream, but it's a milk stout, which are pretty polarizing in my opinion. I don't really like them as I find them far too sweet, almost like milk chocolate; however, some people (like my brother), really enjoy them.

Edit: Just to add some detail, milk stouts are stouts that contain lactose (ie milk sugar). One could say that brewing yeast are lactose-intolerant; in other words, they can't digest lactose. Therefore the lactose makes it through the brewing process unfermented and the resultant stout is much sweeter than other stouts (also has the side effect of making it so that lactose intolerant people probably shouldn't drink them).
aka Nakji/Сталкер/Reed
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 19 2012 03:46 GMT
#4
I don't have much productive to post in these blogs, so I haven't said anything. However-- I am really enjoying reading these so tyty for writing them! ^^ They are quite informative for me, and I like the pics. It's sparked my interest in trying things, even though I can't stand the taste of alcohol. XD
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 03:59:12
May 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#5
I don't know the regional availability of this, but the 7 Grain Survival Stout from Hopworks brewery in Portland is the absolute fucking bomb.

[image loading]
shikata ga nai
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
May 19 2012 04:03 GMT
#6
On May 19 2012 12:46 RedJustice wrote:
I can't stand the taste of alcohol. XD


OMG I'm so sorry
shikata ga nai
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#7
On May 19 2012 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 12:46 RedJustice wrote:
I can't stand the taste of alcohol. XD


OMG I'm so sorry

haha for me it was the same, my first beer tasted like poop. then i loved the buzz so i kept on trucking. many years later i became interested in good beer and now i love the buzz and the vast assortment of flavours and styles!
dude bro.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 04:36:40
May 19 2012 04:35 GMT
#8
I actually like the taste more than the buzz.

not to say I don't like the buzz
shikata ga nai
KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
May 19 2012 05:09 GMT
#9
young's double chocolate stout is delicious! ill have to check out the recommendations you made!
"We need alcohol" ~Stork
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 19 2012 05:29 GMT
#10
--- Nuked ---
Ringall
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland177 Posts
May 19 2012 12:14 GMT
#11
On May 19 2012 14:29 boesthius wrote:
that black chocolate stout makes me want to rip my arm off i want it so bad


Yeah, I had 4 of those a while back and my god they were good. Maybe the best stout I have ever had.
Snute fanclub <3 (fan #106 :3 ) | "Bitches know me, I'm Jos 'LiquidRet' de Kroon. I drink, smoke and don't exercize." - Ret | http://bit.ly/GX57En
Shampsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States21 Posts
May 19 2012 17:54 GMT
#12
Really been enjoying these blogs. Stouts are easily my favorite as well, nothing better than a great oatmeal stout on a blustery winter night, or any night for that matter . My favorite is Winter Warlock, not available this far east which sucks, but whenever I head to Colorado my in-laws always have six of it waiting for me.
[image loading]
Only 6% ABV but its so drinkable and delicious it's easy to overdo it .
~An elephant who never forgets, TO KILL!!!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Season Finals: Group Stage 2
RotterdaM756
TaKeTV 431
IndyStarCraft 133
BRAT_OK 97
SteadfastSC85
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2163
uThermal 1386
RotterdaM 756
mouzHeroMarine 298
IndyStarCraft 133
SHIN 111
BRAT_OK 80
SteadfastSC 72
LamboSC2 47
sc2solar 22
Classic 13
SpiritSC2 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42532
Calm 4737
Sea 1669
EffOrt 620
Mini 444
ggaemo 208
Nal_rA 198
actioN 173
Sharp 106
Hyun 73
[ Show more ]
Shine 71
hero 53
910 49
Pusan 45
Sea.KH 45
zelot 27
ToSsGirL 27
Sacsri 26
Rock 23
Killer 22
Movie 18
IntoTheRainbow 13
GoRush 12
Noble 3
Dota 2
qojqva4103
Counter-Strike
fl0m8390
olofmeister1264
zeus370
kRYSTAL_33
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King136
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor361
MindelVK8
Other Games
gofns47478
tarik_tv11429
singsing2609
B2W.Neo576
crisheroes334
Hui .124
ArmadaUGS113
KnowMe93
QueenE46
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1242
BasetradeTV168
StarCraft 2
angryscii 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 9
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota269
League of Legends
• Nemesis5050
Upcoming Events
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3h 17m
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
19h 17m
OSC
1d 8h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.