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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
May 17 2012 02:44 GMT
#21
On May 17 2012 10:24 synapse wrote:
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On May 17 2012 09:53 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 17 2012 09:15 Whatson wrote:
On May 17 2012 08:54 Luepert wrote:
I don't think BW players will do especially well. People on TL talk about them as though they are all demi-gods or God himself but in fact they just play a game that was more popular in the past. Just my two cents.

LOL you do realize that the current top flight SC2 players were pretty much trash compared to the top flight BW players right?
And you DO realize that we are talking about God right? I mean, what else do you call Flash?

Ultimate Weapon, Cheddar Terran, Terminator, etc.

I mean, I guess you can't really make assumptions about how good they will be, and maybe they are being over-hyped as already best SC2 players in the world. But the people who disagree, you have to watch their FPVODs or some of the games they play. Especially Bisu, he'll put anyone in SC2's apm to shame with this shuttle harasses.

I'm pretty sure JD is the go-to high apm player
770 apm max? who what?

Julyzerg 818 apm max. WHAT WHO SAID THAT?
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 17 2012 05:43 GMT
#22
You can't dominate in SC2 at a bonjwa level, at least not with the constant patching nowadays.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
May 17 2012 06:34 GMT
#23
I'm starting to wonder if they'll truly dominate as in BW. I was convinced ForGG was going to stomp Code S after seeing his amazing speed and accuracy on his stream, which made SC2 champions like Polt look slow and clumsy in comparison. His performance has been very disappointing though (I realize he was not consistent in BW either). SC2 resembles BW but is different in many ways. I'll be really sad if amazing players like Flash switch over and end up being good but not champions. Guess only time will tell, no sense trying to predict the future.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 17 2012 07:45 GMT
#24
I don't think they'll be anything super special as the game is entirely different in micro and macro. I haven't watched much pro sc2 recently (just mlg's and maybe game 1s of gsl as they are free) but keep up with the results decently enough; to give a completely uninformed opinion I think they'll be on the level of say parting. Everyone recognises they are good and they will be confident, but it's not like they'll be guaranteed to dominate (but will obviously have high skill).

What I would expect is for zvt to be dominated by those playing z. I also think protosses may have consistently better engagements with their armies (less zealots being stuck behind stuff, better sentry spreading, etc) but I don't think that will change anything about being able to dominate.

I don't expect anything at all to come of any hype for multitask as I don't think the game actually rewards it as much. The most "hyped" multitask would be some terran drops but I think bw pros will stop those easily and none of that hype will live up. I.e. there will be no "wow look at flash drop 4 places at the same time!" since bw players will defend those drops easily.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
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