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6 seasons in masters, got demoted Z switching to T

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dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
April 11 2012 01:27 GMT
#1
I guess hell... its about time. I dunno whats up my throughout 6 seasons of this game my zerg has gotten way worse. I started this game in beta, no Bw experience other than playing the demo in 2004-2005. I started in bronze league and since I got the beta in may I played religiously until release. I got into masters first season my top rank according to SC2Ranks.com was 700 NA. Every season however I stayed in the same spot, which was mid masters.

I finally got demoted this season to diamond. Man it crushed my soul... I'm not sure I understand zerg anymore the meta game shift from mutas to infestors made my ZvT horrible, I cannot defend hellions for the life of me.

ZvP is probably my worst match-up I cannot survive to late game and even if I do I cannot win the late game vs toss.

ZvZ I always try to get an advantage through macro but it never works I never try for micro battles with banes or roaches because I feel so vunerable and I always lose when I get greedy.

I feel like I'm Idra tbh but at a way lower level of course.

So I've decided to switch to terran! My playstyle is mostly centered around timings and overwelming the enemy... oddly enough my worst matchup is TvZ which just solidifies the fact that my zerg sucks...

Wish my luck guys, mabye I can improve as terran in this game because I never could as zerg.

Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 11 2012 01:32 GMT
#2
well good luck, but how is your tvp
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
April 11 2012 01:33 GMT
#3
Terran is much more difficult than Zerg.

I'd stick it out with Zerg
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:36:30
April 11 2012 01:35 GMT
#4

My playstyle is mostly centered around timings and overwelming the enemy

May I suggest protoss? I mean if you can hit crisp timings as protoss and scout at a basic level you can do very well.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 11 2012 01:37 GMT
#5
Terran is soooooo fun

I offrace Terran, but main Protoss.

Play whatever you get least tilted as, or whatever race you can recognize your faults the easiest as. Improve faster in turn.



Gl!
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Amaterasu1234
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 11 2012 01:38 GMT
#6
I was hoping to get demoted to Diamond so I could justify switching to P...but, unfortunately, I stayed masters and am still zerg

Good luck to ya as a good race!
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:51:15
April 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#7
On April 11 2012 10:38 Amaterasu1234 wrote:
I was hoping to get demoted to Diamond so I could justify switching to P...but, unfortunately, I stayed masters and am still zerg

Good luck to ya as a good race!

this is what sucks so much about having only one "character". i would have laddered twice as much, if i could have smurfed. would have played all 3 races much more. would have randomed. could have a cheese only smurf.



so much fun not being able to be had
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
April 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#8
On April 11 2012 10:32 Psychobabas wrote:
well good luck, but how is your tvp


Seems ok, I like to do reaper or marader openings then expand and push out on 2 bases, its winning me all of my games

On April 11 2012 10:33 Netsky wrote:
Terran is much more difficult than Zerg.

I'd stick it out with Zerg


this seems not the case for me to be honest. I like terran because it seems more mechanic oriented while zerg seems more decision making oriented. Also it is a lot easier to make mistakes as zerg then terran.
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
April 11 2012 02:00 GMT
#9
glhf friend
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
April 11 2012 02:58 GMT
#10
terran best race have fun terran brother
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
April 11 2012 03:05 GMT
#11
as long as youre playing thats all that matters :D
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful… the strong… the weak… the innocent… the corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally." -Darth Maul
Ringall
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland177 Posts
April 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#12
On April 11 2012 10:33 Netsky wrote:
Terran is much more difficult than Zerg.

I'd stick it out with Zerg


Depends on your play style quite much, so it is pretty retarded to go and say "a harder than b".
I started off in season 1 ( and continued to 2 ) as protoss, and man was that not difficult. Every moment It felt inflexible and stiff.
Swapped to zerg and ramped up 2 leagues

So yeah. Whatever feels natural and correct for you, go for it.
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