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CatZ's MLG Winter Arena Experience - Page 7

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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
February 29 2012 18:25 GMT
#121
I'm with you Catz http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=empire state&gs_upl=&ix=seb&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=955&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=m21OT5usEqbC0QXjrdSeBQ
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 29 2012 18:28 GMT
#122
Wow, great read. Obviously this took a lot of time to write, thanks so much for sharing. I loved the part about you vomiting in Hot_Bid's room haha.

I always knew that pro-gamers liked to party, but man you guys do a fair amount of drinking during the weekend. Do the Koreans do that also?

After reading this side of things, idk how I feel about MLG. It's great that they treat the players so well, but renting out half a bar and hosting an open bar event? Isn't that like.... expensive?? It's great that it didn't cost the teams any money, but a 3 day hotel stay in downtown Manhatten has also got to be expensive. Idk how I feel about supporting MLG anymore...
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Titan_Ansiminus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States27 Posts
February 29 2012 18:36 GMT
#123
Catz, you are just a boss... That being said, it is nice to know that things are as smooth below the surface at an MLG as they are to the public
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
February 29 2012 18:39 GMT
#124
On March 01 2012 03:28 TheToast wrote:
Wow, great read. Obviously this took a lot of time to write, thanks so much for sharing. I loved the part about you vomiting in Hot_Bid's room haha.

I always knew that pro-gamers liked to party, but man you guys do a fair amount of drinking during the weekend. Do the Koreans do that also?

After reading this side of things, idk how I feel about MLG. It's great that they treat the players so well, but renting out half a bar and hosting an open bar event? Isn't that like.... expensive?? It's great that it didn't cost the teams any money, but a 3 day hotel stay in downtown Manhatten has also got to be expensive. Idk how I feel about supporting MLG anymore...



The bar was the same that we did our official Barcraft at, they cut us a very, very, very steep discount.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 19:06:59
February 29 2012 18:43 GMT
#125
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So to all the teams, fans and viewers, lets get behind this, and not just this, but also IPL and NASL and everything else, and lets make this shit grow even more."


Hell YEAH, now thats something I can get behind. CatZ you boss you, thanks for making this blog.
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
February 29 2012 18:55 GMT
#126
Great read CatZ, blogs and comments like these make me so happy/proud to be involved in this community! :D
Less QQ, more PewPew
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
February 29 2012 19:27 GMT
#127
Hey bro, you should probably turn your phone off when you're casting.

Made me and my friend's night to have it go off when I texted you though, hahahahah
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
February 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#128
Great write-up. Colorful, detailed, enjoyable. I appreciate your meditation on MLG as an organization and your highlighting of their hard work and excellent treatment of the players.
Mercurial#1193
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
February 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#129
such an awesome story. Catz you are amazing. i liked the part where u puked over hotbids room. :D
My religion is Starcraft
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:06:45
February 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#130
On March 01 2012 04:27 Dalguno wrote:
Hey bro, you should probably turn your phone off when you're casting.

Made me and my friend's night to have it go off when I texted you though, hahahahah


woh dalguno, i read ur blog from like 20 years ago. it had catz in it ^_^

edit:
ok, more like 4 months
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=270884
My religion is Starcraft
ZRand
Profile Joined September 2011
38 Posts
February 29 2012 20:14 GMT
#131
can't believe i actually read all of that. really nice blog lol
Web_cole
Profile Joined June 2011
25 Posts
February 29 2012 20:14 GMT
#132
No ego, no artifice. Really entertaining read
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
February 29 2012 20:20 GMT
#133
On February 29 2012 21:04 dignitas.merz wrote:
Really nice blog CatZ, also I agree with pretty much everything you said about MLG, I've never been treated so well on an event ever.

It was cool meeting you, I'm sorry that we had already gone when you woke up! I would imagine there are more events ahead where we'll meet anyways!


it really was sick dood, hope to see you soon too <3
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
February 29 2012 20:27 GMT
#134
On March 01 2012 03:28 TheToast wrote:
After reading this side of things, idk how I feel about MLG. It's great that they treat the players so well, but renting out half a bar and hosting an open bar event? Isn't that like.... expensive?? It's great that it didn't cost the teams any money, but a 3 day hotel stay in downtown Manhatten has also got to be expensive. Idk how I feel about supporting MLG anymore...

So you don't wanna support them because they pay for accomodation for the players attending their tournament

Haters gonna hate...
skycaptain
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
February 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#135
Good read. I felt like I was reading a J. D. Salinger novel.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#136
On March 01 2012 05:27 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:28 TheToast wrote:
After reading this side of things, idk how I feel about MLG. It's great that they treat the players so well, but renting out half a bar and hosting an open bar event? Isn't that like.... expensive?? It's great that it didn't cost the teams any money, but a 3 day hotel stay in downtown Manhatten has also got to be expensive. Idk how I feel about supporting MLG anymore...

So you don't wanna support them because they pay for accomodation for the players attending their tournament

Haters gonna hate...


I didn't say I don't want to support them, I said I didn't know how I felt about supporting them.

I'm glad Adam cleared things up a bit, but it seems like MLG is reshifting their focus and priorities. I don't want to completely side track the discussion here so I will just reiterate that I don't know how I feel about MLG's new focus and leave it at that.

Also, calling someone a "hater" simply because they may have a different point of view than your own is quite juvenile.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:39:23
February 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#137
nah dood ^^ you're kind of a hater, im not sure you realize how much money goes into this, how big the margin of error needs to be just in regards of flights.. this event MLG spend a ton less money in venue costs, and instead of putting the extra money in their pockets they used it to allow the players to have a great event... now guess who's gonna try their best to qualify to the next arena, and who'll be rested and playing their best next time you watch them.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
-ReD-
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada167 Posts
February 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#138
kids don't go out onto Korean streets at night.... the black Korean gangs will get you and teach you to use proper manner.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
February 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#139
awesome blog! please write more after events!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 29 2012 20:54 GMT
#140
On March 01 2012 05:36 coL.CatZ wrote:
nah dood ^^ you're kind of a hater, im not sure you realize how much money goes into this, how big the margin of error needs to be just in regards of flights.. this event MLG spend a ton less money in venue costs, and instead of putting the extra money in their pockets they used it to allow the players to have a great event... now guess who's gonna try their best to qualify to the next arena, and who'll be rested and playing their best next time you watch them.


I guess I'm just seeing MLG telling us we need to cough up $20 to watch this, telling us that PPV is a necessary direction for the industry; MLG fans arguing that we need to do this "for esports" and should support them in the best interests of this industry. Then I hear about MLG wining and dining players and the like.

It's great to see the players getting rewarded, many of them deserve it; but on the other hand I don't know that I like the idea of MLG playing the heart strings of the community by telling us PPV is a necessary direction for the community then using the money in such a way.

I guess at the end of the day MLG can use their money however they want, and incure whatever expenses they want. But as a customer, I can also spend my money on what I want. I'm not being convinced that the MLG model is the way forward for the industry.

I'm going to be completely honest here. I would like to see players get better rewards and treatment, truth is I've got limited financials. While I'd love for you and your friends to have a wacky vacation in New York, somehow I just don't think that's the best usage of my money. I'll be sticking to NASL and other tournaments that don't charge me $$ to send players on a vacation to the world's most expensive cities. Whether my attitude is right or wrong, either way that's just how I feel.

Take it for what you will.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
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